Monday, July 25, 2005

Interview with Ayman Abdelnour by Joe Pace

Interview with Ayman Abdel Nour - Editor-in-Chief of "All4Syria" and Member of the Baath Party
By Joe Pace
21 July 2005

Many analysts were disappointed by the results of the Ba’th conference and pointed to it as evidence that Bashar is not committed to reform. Why do you think that the conference did not result in more substantial changes?

You have to take into consideration that you are speaking about a party that has 2 million members and you want to keep it united as one body. Second, you have to understand that Bashar’s speech was addressed to both the Syrians and the West, so it contains different messages. I think that now that the Regional Command has only 14 members, it will be able to enact change much faster than the old 21 member Command.

The Bath Party is not a party; it is a movement. It contains all the elements of Syrian society, from the illiterate to the most highly educated teacher who wins international prizes. You find secular people and conservative people. What unites them is that they want to build Syria and a better future. Everything is big and vague and general, especially in the application. If you read the literature in the 1960s, its all out of date and nobody is applying it because it is against imperialism and for Marxism and such.

They gather and they discuss the agenda and then they tell the government what to do and what to say.

Now they have a new definition of socialism: social justice and equality under the law. The right to have a job. Sadat did the same in Egypt and it split his party into three parts.

For the conference, this was the biggest recommendation they could make and still stay united. If they had taken a more reformist stance they would split and fracture.

What are the lines on which they would fracture?

The fracture lines are in the labor rights. There was a huge debate for the last nine months to adapt a new definition instead of this social, directed economy. The debate was about the market economy, they saw that it would jeopardize the rights of the worker and labor unions and privilege the private sector. So they adopted the name, the social market economy.

The president wants to say that they are separating the Bath from the government. This is important for the business community because we are heading for a market economy. Third, this is a message to the Damascene business community, since he brought an independent (Abdullah al-Dardari—deputy prime minister for economic affairs) to help economic reform and he has orders to do anything for the businessmen. They want to absorb and buy the business community. For the first time, the president met with the Damascus Chamber of Commerce.

It was opposed by all the peasants and labor unions.

How would you describe the new members of the regional command? Do you consider them reformists?

It depends on what you mean by reformists. You have to have a vision and an understanding about what has happened in other countries. You have to know languages and follow the western media and understand international relations. You have to visit other countries and study the experiment of reforms there and met officials and diplomats. According to these criteria, you will find only two or three in the regional command who fit into this category. The others want to develop, to reform, but they don’t have any plans or agenda. But at least, they will not stop reform initiatives like the previous Command.

What sort of things did the previous one stop?

It stopped the economic reform plan twice. It stopped the draft law, suggested by the government, to reduce the steps to give licenses for NGOs. The new government is preparing the draft and will send it to the parliament and regional command soon. In 2003 the president ordered the Bath to stop interfering with the daily work of the government, but the command paralyzed the decision after a few months from passing it. [Decision 408, 21 June 2003]. But these guys are new and poor so they don’t have an economic interest to defend like the older generation.

In the constitution, the Bath regional command sets the agenda. And the government implements the policy. This was the reality.

We have to let the Bath Party work as a political party, as any ruling party, and the government should work as the government of the nation. Right now the Bath interferes in every small issue. Now they are separated.

Why was All4Syria — a website Ayman created in 2004 that compiles articles mostly written by regime critics — banned when several oppositional websites are permitted in Syria?

For a simple reason: let us assume now that we have a PC and we surf the internet. We go to those opposition cites and what do we see? The Assad family is very corrupt and we have to change them or kill them. The Alawites are running Syria and we should finish them off. We need freedom of speech and to free political prisoners. The corruption in Syria must end. The Bath is very bad—we should abolish it. You go to my website and you see: this is the official, this is his name, he did this, made this decision, which is wrong because of this, and because of his wrong decision he will impact this sector in this way. The president sent this delegation, and they are under-qualified and should be changed an replaced the following people, and I list them. The Baath Congress lacks reformists, I wrote following elections in June; the government should appoint 150 reformists into the Party to make up for their absence, I recommended.

If the average person reads the opposition websites, they think “we will not endanger our lives with these Utopianists.” But the regular citizen reads my news…. There is no concrete or useable information against the officials in the opposition websites. “All4Syria,” is actually much more scandalous because those in the government who employ these idiots will see how badly qualified they are and figure out with whom they should be replaced.

The purpose of “All4Syria” is to launch dialogue. It’s the first sanctioned newsletter to cross all the red lines and all the taboos in Syria. It was the first to criticize the intelligence apparatus, the National Bath Command, the Regional Command, even employees in the presidential palace. So we were the first to promote the sense of freedom of speech, to open dialogue. It strengthens the community. When people see that they can participate in the dialogue, they will defend their society.

What is the impetus for reform?

There is a genuine need from inside. They cannot continue in the same way with the same people with the same slogans in the 21st century. First, a socialist, directed economy cannot attract foreign investors or even the Syrian ex-pats. Investment is very badly needed to create jobs for the labor market. The unemployment rate is increasing and this will cause a huge problem for the regime in the future, which will not be able to control the streets.

Second, Syria needs to improve its trade balance. Oil and raw materials account for more than 80% of the total exports. In 2011 consumption will match production, so Syria will start paying for its energy balance. So it needs hard currency; unless it changes the structure of its export to be finished material, it won’t be able to cover the trade deficit and to bring in hard currency. This is even more pressing because of the high growth rate and because of the need for technology and equipment to replace the old generation that was used in the public sector in the 80s—all imported from the USSR.

Third, there are the bourgeois and the new businessman and some high officials – this layer needs an open market to prosper and grow, so it pushed for changing the economy thoroughly and the tools used by the government and Bath party.

They cannot continue with the one party system because of this new class, the rise of conservative Muslims. They need associations and entities to defend their interests. Unless these associations are controlled by laws that require transparence and allow them to work above the table, they will work under the table, risking the stability of the regime.

Are they going to get rid of the one-party system?

Yes, they cannot keep on like this. Especially after the fall of Iraq. Now everyone is saying that the one party dictatorship only exists in North Korea, Cuba and Syria. It’s become a joke. So they need a new system. But that doesn’t mean they would compromise their interests.

How do they do that without compromising their interests?

There are a lot of systems: there is the Turkish model in which the National Security Council controls everything and defends the constitution and secularism. Or the Chinese system: one party, but they can absorb the businessmen. There is also the experiment of Jordan, in which the parties fight inside the parliament but under the head of the regime who is the king.

What sort of party law do you expect?

I expect it after a year or a year and a half; it will forbid explicitly ethnic or religiously based parties. They will have to be nationwide, having offices and members in all 14 governorates, and to gain a licence, parties will have to surpass a certain minimal threshold of members—a few thousand.

What do you say to those who contend that the party law is window-dressing; specifically, that it will mandate impossible conditions for parties to obtain licenses? Such as there have to be supporters in every district, there have to be several thousand members, etc.

Does the Democratic party in the US not have supporters in every state? Is any state not represented by the German parties? How can you have a national party and not have representatives in every part of the country? This is not a big issue.

Regarding numbers, I think that it will be a few thousand, but there is a difference between members and supporters through signature. Until now it is unclear because you can gather one million signatures of people who agree with your objectives and slogans, but it doesn’t mean that they are members. It’s unclear whether they want signatures or members. The party must be serious, not like Jordan where there are 35 parties and only two succeed in electing people to parliament, so the others are like a political salon, not a party.

Then is the Party Law going to be accompanied by a Press Law that enables prospective parties to disseminate their platform in order to get the prerequisite number of members?

If the leadership does not have a clear vision towards the transfer of democracy, this will fail. The most important thing is not the Party Law by itself. More important is the election law which could undo the accomplishments of the party law. We need a new information law. We need a new law for syndicates. We need a new law for private associations and NGOs. We need a new law for the right to access information. Unless those laws are completed and have a vision, we have a problem; it will bring more problems. We have a lot of new laws in different sectors that bring more problems than they solve because they are miswritten. Then the government forms a committee to explain the law and explain how to implement the law, then in the end, they end up rewriting the law and it just creates more confusion.

The new information law—there are many changes from the publication law. It adds many chapters to enable giving licenses to television, radio stations and websites. They replace the jail penalty with a fine. It takes away the power of the prime minister to close a publication and gives it to all government members. So if the government wants to close a publication they will study it in a report written by a committee of three members (including minister of justice) to justify this position, then send it to the whole government to vote.

This regime has tried human rights activists in the High National Security Court for "disseminating false information" and issued prison sentences. Under this new law, could someone—say, from a political party or a human rights organization—be imprisoned on similar grounds under the new law?

The new law covers journalists. You will still need the names from the security apparatus before getting approval so no political newspapers will be accepted.

A lot of Western analysts speculate on competing power centers within the government; to what extent do you think power is truly centralized in the hand of President Bashar?

The president is 100% in control of the government. That was very clear when he changed all the high officials in the army and the intelligence apparatuses.

What role do you think the opposition will play in these reformist initiatives?

There is no opposition. At the congress, it gave the government a good image that there is a democratic opposition. A lot of websites are opened which highly criticized the regime and the president. The government considers this good because it shows the Syrian citizens how idiotic and immature the opposition is, so they will stick with the regime. But when it begins to become a problem, they will ban it.

What are the circumstances under which the government would begin to fear the opposition?

The government fears that they will be united. If some of them had an agreement with foreign powers to interfere. And if the government fails to deliver to citizens a better level of life and job opportunities, the people will be able to be mobilized. Even if they don’t agree with the slogans or the objectives of the opposition, they will move against the regime. So the regime is trying right now to finish and tackle the tension points that concern the average citizen and to solve them. This is why the government has taken a lot of popular decisions in the last 3 months, like reducing the car customs, new ISPs and reducing costs of the internet fees, buying the industrial businessmen through launching the first industrial conference, and signing all the requests from the industrialists. For the first time in his 5 years, the president met with the board of the Chambers of Commerce in Damascus and Aleppo.

Will the effect of these decisions trickle down to the lower classes or are there new government initiatives to appease that segment?

There is a set of issues they will do soon to buy all the people. They will have the new law for the NGOs and they will start to formulate a social safety net to give loan and aid to the poor people and also they will have a plan to develop areas in the northeast of Syria.

How threatened does the regime feel from US pressures and how do you think it is likely to respond?

It fears instability. All the same, the government is very sure that it cannot be changed. The US will not interfere militarily, and there are is no other way to change the regime. There is no real opposition that could mobilize the street. And also, there isn’t a clear cause which would make people rise up and go to the street because the regime is also solving direct points of tension. This is the difference between this regime and Saddam’s regime.

Here the regime is very clever. It doesn’t ignore even the smallest point of tension that an outside power might take advantage of. You cannot name any single problems that would mobilize the people. They directly solve the problem. This is their strategy, which they inherited from Hafez. Do not let anything spiral out of control; finish it when it is small. Kill it or solve it.

How is this regime likely to respond to increasing international isolation?

It has an exit strategy; walking towards democracy like the announcements after the congress, bringing a new independent deputy prime minister - Abdullah al-Dardari - and trying to build bridges to the EU and to enhance the relationship with Turkey and the Arab world.

How did the withdrawal from Lebanon impact internal stability? Did the regime loose face in the eyes of the people?

It would have had a greater impact if it weren’t accompanied with those harsh, awful slogans used by the Lebanese opposition against Syrian people. But those slogans keep the street with the regime because it has touched them, not the Syrian officials who took the money or the Syrians who mistreated the Lebanese. The mistake of the Lebanese is that they attacked the Syrian people and the Syrians—the average citizen felt humiliated and insulted. So he is now backing the procedures taken by the government, like arresting the fisherman and raising lawsuits against the Lebanese for the killing of the Syrian laborers and for the border inspections of Lebanese trucks.

It damaged the prestige of the regime a little, but this move on the Lebanese part killed everything. Economically, Lebanon will be more affected than the Syrians.

127 Comments:

At 7/25/2005 04:35:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Again, laughing!

This Abdelnour will be the first one to claim that he was opposed to the regime, but (intelligent in his opposition) when this regime will fall, and it will fall.\ He at the same time tells the regime that this is a very intelligent way to diminish the opposition voices and claim openness to the world. Abdelnoor is in short, an opportunist, like the many servants of this regime that accept every evil in the country for their special advantanges the rgime is throwing at them. This is a man I do not respect, and I do not trust.

I am surprised that Josh is being used as an instrument by the regime to ease the tension with the Bush administartion, and especially, an instrument to spread the propaganda of this regime. No one asked this man about the prisonners, and how does he feel when such great men are staying behind bars in savage conditions because they spoke their minds? Is this an interview made as a propaganda message designed by the Baath itself? That is not how interviews are being conducted by Hard Talks at the BBC for example. These guys wouldn't stand a chance in passing their lies in a real interview.

God bless the truth.

Mohammed (The truth lover).

 
At 7/25/2005 04:42:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

2 million Baath members?

Like we don't know the real story !

Shame on the interviewer!

 
At 7/25/2005 04:52:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a reminder of interviews we used to hear from East Germany. Everything is so wonderful!

 
At 7/25/2005 05:13:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

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At 7/25/2005 05:18:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

It is not like SRP will stoop down to the lowest level and give this interviewer a statement. I guess the next interview this moron will make with the leading reformers in Syria, Bashar and Asma Assad. Just want to know how much the payola gonna be.

 
At 7/25/2005 05:25:00 PM, Anonymous Agha Aldendeshe said...

2 million Syrian Baathist, what a fucking joke. Wouldn't Baathists like to fool themselves the way they fooled the world.

YYYYEEEHHH, there were 20+ Million in the Communist party in Russia and Ape Saddam had millions of his own.

I guess when the first G-DAM drop you can really make an acurate count of how many REAL Baathist in Syria.

Why do I have the Feeling that the CIA and States sent this moran interviewer to meet the so called Syrian Oppositions ( in the CIA and State eyes).

Keep it up please. Everything is on time.

 
At 7/25/2005 05:29:00 PM, Blogger raf* said...

abd al-nur is trying valiantly, but he too is caught in the ba'thist socialization. he is trying to have his cake & eat it, too -- having a reformed ba'th party that stays in power (like china or turkey after ataturk's death) but also having "national opposition parties". he is so ecstatic about the prez having met with the chamber of commerce after FIVE years that he mentions it TWICE.

he cannot see beyond the borders of his beloved country - he brings up the anti-syrian slogans of the lebanese without even mentioning, not even in a relative clause, the syrian "big brother" policy towards lebanon culminating, but by no means beginning, with the 1976-2005 intervention-turned-occupation.

he has no concept of political parties in the "west" - his two examples are factuously wrong. the democratic and republican parties in the u.s. are "election machines", not membership-based organizations. most people supporting one or the other in elections are NOT members. as a matter of fact, both parties have very, very few members compared to the u.s. population. and you don't even have to have your party registered in a u.s. state in order to field your party's candidate - you just need a certain number of voters' signatures.

in germany, there are parties that only exist in one state and is first & foremost a REGIONALIST party (like the christian social union in bavaria, that is in a "permanent" marriage with the christian democratic union that exists everywhere EXCEPT bavaria) and then there are some that have regional support, like the party of democratic socialism in east germany that had members in the german parliament although in some western states they did not even get 1% of the vote.

abd al-nur's look like those of someone who desperately tries to defend a system and thinks that by citing "authoritative examples" (in this case the u.s. & germany) he has silenced his interlocutor. too bad joe pace doesn't know enough about the u.s. and/or german political system...

if abd al-nur would check the wikipedia for "the demise of the ussr", "the balkan wars in the 1990s", "the ethno-religious tensions in southern russia, the balkans, central asia" and pay some attention to the developments in syria's eastern & western neigbors, he would realize the following:

- unless syria pulls off a china-style economic miracle, it & its ba'th party will go the way of the soviet union & its communist party

- the kurds will organize politically regardless of whether "regionalist" parties are allowed or not

- the islamists will organize politically regardless of whether "religious" parties are allowed or not

- the lebanese will do their thing regardless of what the syrian gov't wants and regardless of what the syrian people think is right or wrong

- lebanon does not HAVE TO depend on syria economically -- there are PLENTY of countries that are more than willing to play "outside supporters" for lebanon in order to screw the syrian leadership & to advance their own goals in the region -- & if syria were to cut off its supplies of fuel etc. then the lebanese public (incl. the shi'ites) will DEMAND that the lebanese gov't be accepting outside help

i do understand that ayman abd al-nur cannot take a step back and see the forrest from the trees. he's too deeply enmeshed in the whole ba'th culture. he wants to play gorbachev anno 1986. i'm afraid syria's ba'th & the regime are as incapable of positive reform as the soviet communist party was back then.

ps: mohammed, wanna help me kidnap buthayna sha'ban & put her in the "hardtalk" seat facing tim sebastian? i wonder if she would last longer than milosevic's wife...

 
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At 7/25/2005 06:16:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 7/25/2005 06:27:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/25/2005 06:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again, Crying!

 
At 7/25/2005 06:34:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

This dude Joe pace remind me with Darwin study in the Goalapocas, he was studying evolution all while his people the minor and scummy Britz were making it extinct all over Asia and Africa.

 
At 7/25/2005 06:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/25/2005 06:46:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

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At 7/25/2005 06:55:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

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At 7/25/2005 08:00:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

" ps: mohammed, wanna help me kidnap buthayna sha'ban & put her in the "hardtalk" seat facing tim sebastian? i wonder if she would last longer than milosevic's wife" ashraf al-mansur

This woman is a genuine whore, but notice, she, Shuaiibi, Bashar Assad, Imad Mustafa, and this scum Abdelnoor, and others all speak with the same style, the same lies, and the same smile. They have all graduated from the same school (I bet Bashar assad also attended).

They are confident since they got out of Lebanon.

When Hariri was assassinated, they were trembling of fear, and their behaviour was to accomodate some kind words to the opposition. Imad Mustafa stated back then that "Coming July, there will not be a single political prisonner in Syria. We are even ashamed that we had prisonners".

When the US showed that it was not after the regime and that it had no interest in bringing it down, we saw them coming back to behave like lions. Such is the conduct of all cowards in the world.

No, I am sure Hard Talks will not accept to interview her. The regime officers always put conditions to accept any interview in the Arab world, and outside. Just notice that no one ever harrassed them. Strange as it may seem, it is probably by design by those who have allocated a special spot in world affairs to Syria under these criminals.

Let the chips falls!

Mohammed (Having Faith).

 
At 7/25/2005 08:04:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Let The Chips Fall

Please allow us to edit after posting!

Thanks

Mohammed

 
At 7/25/2005 11:51:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interview with Ayman Abdelnour by Joe Pace
Comment: Garbage. Good for nothing.

 
At 7/26/2005 12:04:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great article and interesting ideas. The best thing about Ayma Abdelnour is that when he criticizes he speaks facts and with an objective of reform and a better Syria unlike others who just go on repeating the same rubbish. I wonder what a Syrian would gain from curses or unproved claims from unidentified bloggers, at least Ayman has the guts to speak out.

 
At 7/26/2005 12:27:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/26/2005 12:36:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite said...

Calm down please. This Anon 12:04 is the King himself.

 
At 7/26/2005 12:42:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 7/26/2005 12:52:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

""""The president is 100% in control of the government"""""
Translation:
HE (PBUH) is the president, the government, the party, the folk, syria.
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Ya got it?

 
At 7/26/2005 01:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Syrian Democratic Coalition Charter Washington DC – November 17, 2003

To all beloved Syrian citizens everywhere:
Despite all the dynamic changes altering the world political landscape of the 20th Century, the present Syrian Ba'ath regime continues to govern Syria using a set of outdated archaic and primitive methods. We know it is not a democratic system of government based on legitimate institutions, but rather a prime model of repression and torture. It is evident to us that Syria under the present Ba'ath regime is rapidly going from bad to worse. Furthermore, we see no change in the political reality of Syria until the Syrian people take it upon themselves to change the course. The Syrian Democratic Coalition (SDC) with its newly chartered course realizes how critical the situation in Syria is under this hegemonic repressive Syrian Ba'ath regime, backed by the cruel Syrian security apparatus. We are also cognizant of how the regime single-handedly formulates flawed decisions affecting the destiny of the nation and its citizens by suspending civil laws, dismantling constitutional legitimate institutions, driving the nation to poverty, unemployment, thus becoming the victim of an outdated economic system. The regime also mocks our electoral system by declaring a presidential winner, with 99.99% of the votes, using the only candidate. We are convinced that the Ba'ath regime in Syria is beyond repair, restoration, patching or overhauling. For this reason, we have come together, united as the Syrian Democratic Coalition, to promote a common political agenda and vision for Syria based on democratic principles. We aim to create a free democratic system of government based on parliamentary elections to dispose of this nightmare of dictatorship by heredity. We have united in a common front, under the banner of the Syrian Democratic Coalition, in order to render our political struggle more effective and the end results more tangible. Thus, the Syrian Democratic Coalition meeting in Washington DC calls for the achievement of the following objectives: 1) Topple the Dictatorial Syrian Baath Regime We call for the overthrow of the dictatorial Ba'ath regime to be replaced with a democratic system of government reflecting the free will of all

 
At 7/26/2005 03:46:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Islam versus Liberalism

It is not in the scope of this paper to examine the inherent contradictions between authoritarianism and individualism in Islamic theology and law. What warrants investigation here is the incompatibility of the current authoritarian trends observable in Arab/Islamic societies with modernization and progress. The current trends indicate a clash between Islam and liberalism, that is, individualism. Liberal democracy and ideals seemingly have secured a predominant position as the modern global ideology since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Despite the countless emphases on individualism and individual accountability in Islamic theology, the religious establishment in Islamic societies has called for authoritarianism, orthodoxy, and greater social compliance. More often than not, the voices of the liberal reformists in the Islamic world have been marginalized, and in many cases those advocating progressive reforms have faced threats from religious zealots.

Such behavior of the religious establishment, which usually attempts to assert its own authority in order to maintain the status quo of the power hierarchy, undermines individualism. This results in the denial of liberal ideals like tolerance, and especially that of individual choices and freedoms. The pressures of social compliance and conformity are exerted zealously, at the behest of the religious establishment. These pressures are also enforced at the familial level, usually in the context of a patriarchal authority. This authoritarian framework allows parents to impose decisions on their children in matters concerning what would normally be the individual's personal choice.

The trend in Islamic societies that has been most harmful to individualism seems to be institutionalized totalitarianism enforcing compliance with religious obligations, such as prayers, fasting, dress codes, gender segregation, and the like, all of which further erodes individual choices and freedoms, and only promotes intolerance. The most dangerous manifestation of this extreme authoritarianism is the institution of the so-called religious police, better known as the department of the "Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice" (Amr Bil Maruf wa Nai Al Munkar) employed in Saudi Arabia and Iran, and in Afghanistan during the Taliban era.

 
At 7/26/2005 06:32:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Yes, I must agree with what that Anonymous said that Abdelnoor has guts to be talking using his real name.

Definitely.

I wouldn't do that if I were in his shoes. But again, I am not, and he must have reached the point where he feels safe at saying the things he said. Probably the rewards have gone up lately, and they made it real attractive for him to be that courageous regardless of the risks he has to face like despising himself!

What would be the reward for my family if I used my real name, mr. anonymous? If they match it with what they give Abdelnoor, I will possibly start thinking about using my real name. For now, you will have to enjoy my writings with this anonymous name no matter what your funny brain says, for even you, who is praising the regime and Abdelnoor were more realistic and cautious about uncovering the truth about yourself, and you stayed Anonymous. (You are smarter than that scum for sure).

Mohammed (The daring)

 
At 7/26/2005 07:03:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Mohamad & the SRP guy,
Accusing me of being a baathist (whatever that’s supposed to be) was hilarious- Gentlemen, with my Syrian education (highschool+college) I am a regional manager of a multi-national company operating in the GCC and across the region. I encourage all Syrians to have high esteem and confidence in themselves; you are no less than the others even with the bad Syrian educational system.
You gentlemen are demotivating young Syrians and giving them no solutions to their daily challenges except curses and useless rhetoric.
I respect people like Ayman Abdelnour because they have clear objectives and courage to carry out their plans to achieve their objectives.

 
At 7/26/2005 07:26:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

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At 7/26/2005 07:43:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

I am not sure "young Syrians" have access to this blog. I hope they do.

Mr. Anonymous; it is important to speak the truth. The games that you think Abdelnoor is playing to "correct" the wrong inside the regime is a false concept in your mind, for we have heard the same album for 35 years, from people who claimed they were inside to "correct from the inside", only to get rich, and between now and then, some of them sent to prison in corruption charges for embezelment or taking bribes. This broken album still works for all those who want to get rich out of tricking the oppositions (for historical reason only) that they are so called Reformists, or want to correct things from inside the regime, and want to influence the situationn smartly as Abdelnoor is claiming. They want to get the benefits from the regime, and at the same time also get credit from the oppressed people who often get nothing. They play the two sides like Al Bouti has done where he placed Assad in the side of God, and still kept the Muslim Brotherhoods liking him (because in the minds of Muslim Brotherhoods, he is secretly preparing Syria for an Islamic future as they both understand). In the mean time, he enjoys the good life, richness beyond the ordinary Syrians reach, and the secret and open praise of the Muslim Brotherhood members, and the regime. Do we call these people rightly "hpocrites", and dangerous?

You tell me.

Mohammed (I like to crush hypocrites)

 
At 7/26/2005 08:20:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

to: At 7:03 AM, Anonymous said...
To Mohamad & the SRP guy,
Accusing me of being a baathist (whatever that’s supposed to be) was hilarious- Gentlemen,

No we have a good example infront of us how Baath brainwash citizens.

 
At 7/26/2005 08:25:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Can some one, please name a single accomplishment any of those who "worked from the inside" has accomplished? Or one single item that he /she has corrected in the 35 years that have passed already?

It is evident that this game is benefitting two parties:

1- The Regime (portraying itself as tolerant to those "reformers".

2- The so called Reformers themselves, for they get:

a- the publicity they desire,
b- the money they are after, and
c- the smiles of the regime that is happy to put them upfront.

I can't forget the three bullets that went through the head of the "great" Reformer Al Zou'ebi when he committed suicide! (I was happy for him, but pittied him).

They are all stooges.

Mohammed (No respect for stooges).

 
At 7/26/2005 08:36:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to interrupt, but does any one know if (AL Zou'ebi)'s family was able to return his money from Swiss Banks?

Thank you so much.

 
At 7/26/2005 08:44:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

To Aphrodites regarding Anonymous, 12:04:


I totally agree. Proof: he/she used the word "rubbish". That is more commonly used in Britain, so I tend to think this was Asmaa. Bashar had no time to learn English. All he stayed there was 1 year and 7 months. God how smart he is to become the "Western Educated" he was described from that short time he spent there./

Mohammed (in agreement)

 
At 7/26/2005 09:03:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

Mohammed my man, you need to stop talking about yourself in the third person. All these titles your giving yourself between parentheses is making you look pretty sad and self obsessed basket case. I wonder if you were in power how different would you be to the people you vehemently criticize?

I am sure you wont feel a twitch in torturing the people you despise and blame for Syria's backwardness. How about you start by appreciating the fact that you’re extremely ordinary, nothing more or less. Your voice counts just as much as next person in this forum so you better respect them as long as they are not disrespecting you.

Anon at 7:03 has the right to his/her opinion whether you like it or not. You are trying so hard that your actually sinking in your own self imposed glory. Could it be that some people might agree with Ayman Abdelnour (I dont) but are not member of the presidential family? I really think they have better things to do than to read the crap we post here.

More importantly, you’re so goddamn closed-minded and negative that nothing positive can come out of your hostile comments. All you are doing is making the ones who already agree with you agree more, while leaving the rest who might be undecided despising your argumentum skills and doubting your sincerity and objectivity. And that goes for the rest of you monkeys, say what you feel but do not attack people who did not attack you.

Tarek (the prick)

 
At 7/26/2005 09:12:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To sick Tarek:

You learned all these English words in the Netherland?

How about learning how they became so great instead of wasting your time learning homosexuality. I am sure the Ducth people gave more to humanity than just homsexuality that seems to be impressing you in that land.

Behave !

 
At 7/26/2005 09:28:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/26/2005 09:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes Assma we got it. We even got the IP address, it will come handy when we bring you and your husband for trial, face the million charges of crimes against the people of Syria. Now you may not claim it was the old guards.

 
At 7/26/2005 09:57:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

To the Anonymous at 8.28:

Let their side use their insults, and do not reply to them in kind for this is exactly what they aim at; they want to transfer any discussion to a insults trading so they can say: Look at the Oppositions, that is all they do, as the scum Abdelnoor tried to say in the so called interview.

We have used facts, logic, and stayed cool in the face of their insults. It is evident that their agents are trying to disrupt any discussion, and I have seen the same thing happen in other places. They start to use bad words, and some respond in kind, and then the whole discussion becomes trash. Trashing the discussion is the best they can hope to accomplish since they absolutely can not respond to facts. So, please do not give them the opportunity to accomplish their aim. Let the world see who is what, and what this regime and its agents are all about,\

God bless Syria, the USA, and all the world.

Mohammed (The Christian).

 
At 7/26/2005 10:08:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mohammed: Did you mean the whole discussion becomes trash as in saying becomes rubbish?

Thanks.

 
At 7/26/2005 10:20:00 AM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

to: Aphrodite.

No, I was not the anonymous above. I always sign my posts. About Ayman Abdelnour (AA), I knew his father, a man known for his honesty and integrity.

I know little about AA, except that he is the only real vocal reformer in the Ba'th Party rank and file. He is still a member of the Ba'th Party... But a very pragmatic one.

This interview is a copy of others AA has given before. The reactions (obscenities from the usual people) have devaluated this site. This is my last post, unless Josh does something. I would even volunteer my real name (I am an intellectual who left Syria because of mistakes made by the Ba'th before the war in 1967) if people who post on this site are required to register. So long. Peace!

 
At 7/26/2005 10:26:00 AM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

Mohammed,

Syria needs more people like you.

Regards

 
At 7/26/2005 10:38:00 AM, Blogger raf* said...

ya kingcrane,

if people are required to register here those who want to spew obscenities will simply register under a fake name & then continue. this happens on other blogs' comment sections as well.

c'est la vie blogaise (blogiere?) ...

 
At 7/26/2005 11:32:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

I will boycott today's post because I won't lower myself and discuss about baath philosphy.

 
At 7/26/2005 11:44:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/26/2005 11:56:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"man known for his honesty and integrity" Kingscrane

Hahaha..fill the hole that is in your head!

 
At 7/26/2005 12:16:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We hold all Baathists and their supporters worldwide, responsible for the crimes against the people of Syria. Including, but not necessarily limited to, human rights crimes, war crimes, financial crimes and theft of state assets / resources. If you are a Baathist, married to one, child of one, a supporter of one or his children, any of his companies, etc...etc... regardless if you left or provided the support before 67' or 63' or 53' you will be held liable and be brought to justice, charged with crimes against the people of Syria and 99.99% convicted. If you lucky, your assets will be ceased, foreign assets ordered to be surrendered to the rightful Syrian Government and you will face life in prison as shackled labor to pay restitution for your crimes. G-DAMM’s maybe on the way soon, this is not rubbish, this is a fact.

 
At 7/26/2005 01:17:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

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At 7/26/2005 01:26:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

It is to be noted that the new president of Syria, Dr. and Marshal Hafez Bashar Assad (24) has studied something in China. This great "Eatsern Educated" president will bring to Syria some of what he has learned in the East, and will try to start the 3rd correctional movement known in the country since 1970, to defeat corruption, and get rid of the old guard.

-------

Mohammed (the historian)

 
At 7/26/2005 01:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abdalnour, reform my ass. you ass is grass you baathist, your ass is mine.

 
At 7/26/2005 01:42:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

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At 7/26/2005 02:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to Mohamad, SRP fellow and other bloggers,

This is the anonymous who seemed to have offended almost every blogger on this site.

5 years from now, Bashar will most probably be out of office and American troops will back home, twenty years from now 50% of the people you know will be dead, 50 years from now 90% will pass away including anyone who can read from this blog.

The bottom line gentlemen is that the future of Syria lays in the hand of Syrian youth, the very youth that you are trying to frustrate and loose any meaning of hope.

You seem to be well educated/successful people, I would encourage you to send messages of hope, tell young people how to succeed in life. Motivate them to learn, develop and value time and most importantly teach them how to accept people who don't share them their believes and ideas.

Goodnight and long live Syria

 
At 7/26/2005 03:14:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

to anon @ 2:49

Fuck off dumb Baathshit, How possibly we can send any messages to the youth of Syria if the Baath party that you are from or supporting will not allow such message to reach a single youth in Syria. Answer me mother fucker. One more shit for your little brain that my dog has better one than your Baathist brain can think, how possibly we can send a single youth in Syria a message if he is going to be arrested, tried in State Security court, tortured and imprisoned for 20 years, denied family visitation or medication while incarcerated for having logged to the site or read the email that the message is in. Did you think about that you subhuman bastard before you typed your comment. You mother Fucker Baathshit scum, your days are numbered.

 
At 7/26/2005 03:21:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got that right. News from the Pentagon surfacing today confirming G-DAMMS could be raining on Damascus the second week of August.

 
At 7/26/2005 03:25:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

The following is a message of hope in Arabic.
(Re. That Anonymous above at: 2.49):


- Background: Few Syrian family members of few hundreds of prisonners got together two days ago, and formed an Association to defend the rights of their relatives in prison. Mr. Heithem Hamwi, in Darya, a town associated to Damascus held a press conference in his home yesterday. The Regime told the members of the Association to disolve, and today, he was taken to Prison at 11:00 AM Damascus time.

Reminding the readers that Syrian Youths try to be positive, and take matters in their own hands leaving politics behind, but even act of goodness, and kindness, the the regime opposes and thinks it is a threat to its existence, and so it gets mad and imprisons the good doers like what happened to the son of Mr. Haytham Hamwi above:

In 2003, the son of Mr Haythem Hamwi above, and his friends (All college Educated) took the initiative to clean their surroundings (for those who know Daraya must know the neglect the government does to it, and the extreme loads of trash that it does not take care of), and these young men started to clean their surroundings when they were seized, and taken to jail, and then tried and condemned to 4 years in prison.

The Arabic text below explains in details.

So, you son of a bitch acting as you are a messenger of "hope", declare your real identity.
_____________________

أدانت اللجنة السورية لحقوق الإنسان اعتقال المواطن ياسين الحموي والد المعتقل هيثم الحموي، من بلدة داريا (محافظة ريف دمشق) . وقال شهود عيان بأن الاعتقال جرى حوالي الساعة الحادية عشرة صباح اليوم (الثلاثاء 26/7/2005) عندما قدمت عدة سيارات إلى محله واصحبته معها، ولم يمكن تحديد الوجهة التي نقل إليها أو الجهة المعتقلة.
ومن الجدير بالذكر فإن المواطن ياسين الحموي عقد في منزله يوم أمس المؤتمر الصحفي للجنة ذوي المعتقلين التي تداعى لتأسيسها عدد من أقارب المعتقلين في سجون النظام السوري.

وكانت شرطة داريا استدعته يوم أمس عقب انتهاء المؤتمر الصحفي وحققت معه لمدة ساعة من الزمن.

ومن الجدير بالذكر فقد اعتقل هيثم الحموي (ابن ياسين الحموي) في أيار عام 2003 مع مجموعة من المواطنين المثقفين وحملة الشهادات العلمية والأكاديمية من بلدة داريا لأنهم شرعوا بتنظيف بلدتهم من الأوساخ التي تقاعست البلدية عن القيام بها بفعل الفساد والمحسوبية، وبنصح مواطنيهم بعدم قبول الرشوة كطريقة في الحياة بعدما استشرت الرشوة بفعل النظام المشجع عليها، وبعدم تدخين التبغ الأمريكي بسبب موقف أمريكا المعادي للقضايا العربية.

بقي من معتقلي بلدة داريا أربعة حكم على اثنين منهما بالسجن أربعة سنوات وهما: هيثم الحموي ويحيى الشوربجي بينما حكم على زميلهما الآخرين بالسجن ثلاثة سنوات وهما: محمد شحادة ومعتز مراد. ولا يزال الأربعة في المعتقل في ظروف لاإنسانية.

إن اللجنة السورية لحقوق الإنسان تنظر إلى اعتقال المواطن ياسين الحموي باعتباره وسيلة قمعية ومحاولة لإرهاب المواطنين من المطالبة بالإفراج عن أبنائهم وأقاربهم المعتقلين، وتدين بشدة هذا النهج المستمر من القمع والديكتاتورية وكبت الحريات.

وتطالب اللجنة بإطلاق سراح ياسين الحموي وبقية معتقلي داريا وكافة المعتقلين في سجون النظام السوري، وتتوجه لكافة المدافعين عن حقوق الإنسان لكشف هذه الأعمال التي تقوم بها أجهزة مخابرات وأمن النظام السوري ومطالبتها بإطلاق سراح كافة المعتقلين.

اللجنة السورية لحقوق الإنسان
26/7/2005
--------------------------


Mohammed (The Truthful).

 
At 7/26/2005 04:09:00 PM, Anonymous John Adam Nielson said...

It is about time for the Pentagon to drop couple of hundreds G-DAMM's on Assad's Mukhabrat HQ (Blackmail and Torture HQ),Interior Ministry (Bribes Ministry) and his incredibly incompetent armed forces. This will show the little mouse what a tiny Winnie mouse he is and maybe he will start behave like it.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

to Mohamad & SRP (you seem to be one person)

I wouldn't mind revealing my name if this is a blog policy but it wont make any difference.

Every time you mention "baathist" you really make me laugh, any Syrian would know that we don't use this word when referring to regime supporters. Actually, this word was introduced notoriously in Saudi Mosques to curse the infidel Baath Systems (because they are secular). Later and after the American invasion to Iraq, this word was referred to the Iraqi Baath members whom the American authorities decided to fire collectively from the government and army (this proved to be one hell of a mistake)
You know what we Syrians refer to regime supporters, its "allawites" . For sure this is not true, majority of allawites are poor people who have never had any benefit from the regime.

I hope we can at least agree on some terminology and if not then no worries because I have no intention to debate on this blog, I would just like to read whatever Prof Josh is posting. In fact I am a big fan of Josh. Take my word that this will be my last comment.

Good Luck and long live Syria.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:36:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Re: John's post:

I agree.

However, I don't think they need more than one real bomb. These guys are lions only on the weak, and the unarmed Syrian populas. They are rats if faced with Israeli power, or American, or even Turks, and we all remember how Lion the first got on his knees to suck the dick of the Turkish president few years before he went to hell, and urged him not to use force,and Lion 1st gave the Turks what they were asking for, the head of the Kurd's Labour party that used to be protected in the drug business with his Syrian contre part officers.

All it takes is some seriousness from the US, nothing more. I know these coward officers in the Syrian Army and I know their mentality very well. They only respect force, and are ready to leave Syria once they feel the US is really serious.

They have been counting for that day for a long time, and that is why, they smuggled 100 Billion Dollars out of Syria over their 35 years in power, to Banks across the globe, and that is why, most of their family members are dual citizens of Syria, and other countries.

God bless the courageous US and President Bush.

Mohammed (Seeking help from the US).

It is time for the fucking opposition to know that their dreams are only dreams, and that they can never do anything against this regime without external force.

Truth Time.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:40:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SRP are a bunch of pussy fags that have never even entered Syria. If they do enter, I hope they all get beheaded.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:43:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

To the Anon Moron 4:28 .......(this proved to be one hell of a mistake).

They made mistakes, But SRP think they were plans not mistakes. Freeying Iraq from Baathist chokehole is not a mistake. It is a great first step in the right direction and it is amust.

The mistakes were not the liberation of Iraq, but it is not liberating Syria right after Iraq. These mistakes (plans) maybe altered soon as now teh mistakes in the planning became clear.

Yes, please make this your last post. If you like Baathism so much why not abide by the baath doctrine and refrain from committing the crime of free speech. Okay IDIOT.

And no, SRP have no clue who Mohammed is, but based on his comments we will elect him as the next President of Syria not only as he claim to be an Alawaites, which is of no negligable importance to us, But even if he has 4 horns and red colored skins with purple fish scales all over his body.

Now please go away and spend those billions your Baathist daddy stole from teh Syrian people and treasury.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/26/2005 04:49:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

Pussy fag is you hiding behind an anonoymous name. We got real name, a notable leader and an address. Coward Baathist human scum, your days are numbered.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:52:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mohammad is not coward, he is smart and brave, I hope he will keep his identity hidden, we need him to rule in Syria, while we use the low life Baathist to keep human scum like you in jail for crimes against Syrians and theft of state assets.

 
At 7/26/2005 04:55:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

1- Sincere thanks to SRP.

2- That latest Anonymous: What are you afraid of when your side is the regime? Why don't you use uyour real name so you can be proud of your language and your political stand?

I am happy that you know that when the mighty US decides to take the rat Bashar Assad with a couple of nombs, it will not need to ask me or any one else. That is comforting, because speed and efficiency is needed.

You rats, you will never enjoy the wealth you have deposited in banks across the world. Did Markos , or Duvalier, or Muboutu enjoy their money, or did they even get it back? Hell is your destiny, and your name in history will be just a trashy few decades of crimes.

God bless the truth!

Mohammed (the Justice Minister)

 
At 7/26/2005 04:57:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Dandeshe, SRP. You'r really smart you son of a bitch. It was you all that time playing roles: Mohamad the opposition alawi for credibility and then SRP for support. You are sick, really fucking sick but no suprise after all your espionage, energy and conspiracy stories.
Who are you going to be next? I guess just an anonymous to use filthy when you feel that you are loosing.
Lets see

 
At 7/26/2005 05:16:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

Just gave a note to the Agha about this Baathist post/commnet and he cracked up laughing. I am sure not as hard as the actual poster named Mohammad.

Hey Baathist scum. we really like this Mohammad. We think he is with Ghadry's Reform Party. Not important to us as long as we are on the same side. Eventually the Pentagon gonna have their way and establish a united Syrian Congress with all joining in and uniting.

 
At 7/26/2005 05:23:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

The Agha further said that the Idea came to him but was gonna call the fictitious Alawi Khodr (green) a very typical Alawi name in the villages around Tel Kalakh

 
At 7/26/2005 05:25:00 PM, Anonymous KHODR from Zafraan said...

We are all Syrians,

 
At 7/26/2005 05:34:00 PM, Anonymous KHODR from Madhele said...

I am Khodr, another Alawite opposition. unfortunately I gew up under the Baath party rule in Syria, did not have the previlige Mohammad had growing up in the west. So I don't have the quite temprement of Mohammad and his wealth of knowledge. Example: I don't know who the fuck is Duvallier. So I will do my best to just sound like him and try to keep the fuck words to a minimum.
I am happy to join the Syrian oppositions at the right time.
That is right, I was told the Pentagon is readied for the move taht was originally planned to 2007, they can't wait anymore.

 
At 7/26/2005 05:36:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Re: Anonymous 4.57

Since you came up with this great discovery, a good way for you to defend your power hungry criminal thieves (Baathy, Alaiws, whatever you wish to call them), I truly cracked up laughing, and was very happy that you are as mad as you have become, that meant that I did a good job, and so did SRP.

I assure you I am Alawi (by birth though, no more), and I assure you that I despise Alawis as well as I pitty them as a people that can not free themselves of their thugs who exploit them, and commit crimes in their names, and steal the billions of dollars in their names, and use them in the lowest jobs as Mukhabarat or soldiers to keep this regime going, many of them are unaware that they are being exploited, and that the regime is not Alawi, and that the beneficiaries are thugs from every sect in Syria. However, it is the Alwawi Officers that have the military power that keeps this regime on, and these high officers do not care about Alawis, neither do they care about anything else except their power, and the money they take out of SYria to foreign Banks to pass to their sons. Do you know that Basel's fortune that he left in Swiss Banks was nearly lost, because he did not have a will (He thought he was young and he could do that later), and that the Swiss Authorities was going to take more than half of the money because he was not married, etc... and that the Assad regime , well, yes, the Assad regime married Basel after his death with a Syrian woman, and they registered the date to prior his death? Well, in Syria, everything is possible, you know that!

I meant every thing that has to do with tricks is possible, not that the impossible does not exist as the French believe, in reolation to scientific discoveries, and the betterment of human life! Only every thing is possible when it comes to tricks, mr. Baathy , Alawi, whatever you prefer the name to be as I don't give a damn).

Now, to SRP: I am not of Ghadri's followers. I never followed any body, and will never follow any one. If I need to believe in anything, or follow any body ever, it would be Jesus Christ, and no one else.

God bless America.

Mohammed

 
At 7/26/2005 07:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/26/2005 07:25:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Hey hey, Anonymous at 7.00 PM;

The world is reading what you are writing. Now teh world will believe what the opposition is saying. If you have an intelligent boss, he will fire you from teh Mukahabarat, but again, you and the rest of you can not be intelligent nor educated. You are simply scum.

Mohammed (applying for SRP membership).

 
At 7/26/2005 07:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/26/2005 07:52:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any info (sources) on the romantic relationship mentined above?

 
At 7/26/2005 08:14:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

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At 7/26/2005 08:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.elaph.com/ElaphWeb/Politics/2005/7/78996.htm

 
At 7/26/2005 08:22:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The URL is not being copied correctly. Please add this after "politics"

/2005/7/78996.htm

 
At 7/26/2005 08:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And here is his picture of his face, shown on the first page of Elaph www.elaph.com ,

http://www.elaph.com/elaphweb/Resources/images/Politics/2005/7/thumbnails/T_1f6a26f5-205b-4dfc-a18e-56c72446bda9.gif

 
At 7/26/2005 10:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SRP< you are delusional. I don't think you should even take a step inside any part of Syria because Alawites, Christians, Muslims they will all kill you.

 
At 7/26/2005 10:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Baathy;

I thought Alawis are Muslims too.
If they are not, then your president must resign according to the so called constitution that his father tailored to his size in 1973.

The Internet is full of web pages where Syrians are speaking their minds, and Srp or Mohammed, or others are moderate in their hatred of the regime compared to the others. May be it is wiser for you all to leave the country ans start enjoying your money and the second passports some where else before it is too late, and ...and you lost it all.

 
At 7/26/2005 11:08:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

Hehehehehehehhehe, got some enemies seems like. I am just small one man party, flat broke, delusional, sick, very sick skitso,
I am no threat to no one, you should have sympathy for me man.
HeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHeheHehehe.

 
At 7/26/2005 11:30:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

Well thank you sir,the one making these threats. SRP apapreciate the threat comments you made. Couple new SRP members needed this as supporting evidence for their asylum applications. Be kind and make more threats please, be explicit, not just rot in hell, say what you really goona do to SRP members please, list all the torture methods that you will be ordering the Baath (sound like you own this Mafia enterprise) to use.

By the way, have you checked the site www.ssprs.com, if not please do so right away. there are some hidden part to it, so click on all the arrows and pictures and you will be surprised to find some very important information to help you get us fast to your property "the Baath" prisons.
Again it is www.ssprs.com and try to find that secret part by clicking on all areas. If you good, you will find important document such as list of top Baathist members bank accounts name, address and balances globally. There is also a secret compartment were you can see live streaming videos of stunning blonds lesbian ladies 18-22 as you say in Syria FARFOURA you can type and chat with them. So try to find the secret entery way will ya.

 
At 7/26/2005 11:42:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

Looks like we're going back to our favorite SSNP game...
Let's blow some lebanese idiots...

 
At 7/26/2005 11:45:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha! The Agha will never put a foot in Syria, even when American tanks liberates the country soon, not unless the American Army are going to ship those Newport Beach tanned California blonds to fill up the cities of Syria.

 
At 7/26/2005 11:50:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

hehehehe, somebody tried to hook me to this site with swastikas, taht was not me who posted this, just an imposter and only a Jewish or Israeli will do that. Could be those that found out they were dicovered at SENTARA MEDICAL SYSTEM. Hey, you were reported already as I promised. Take one way ticket to LOD airport you dummies.

 
At 7/27/2005 12:44:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/27/2005 01:01:00 AM, Anonymous Your Agha said...

I will be in Syria by 2007 and will get your ass, I know who you are.

 
At 7/27/2005 01:04:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite (American) said...

You've already heard about the leaks about Mustapha Hamdan (head of the presidential guard) and his interrogation by the UN investigative team. Hamdan is likely to be assassinated soon, and he's being dangled as a threat to Bashar, telling him that this can go higher.

As if on cue, Ghazi Kanaan is now said to be leaving the Ministry of the Interior. This move may well be sold to the Americans as a sign that Bashar is cooperating. In fact, I had a feeling this was going to happen (not necessarily with Ghazi) when Patrick Seale wrote a few weeks ago in the Daily Star counseling Bashar to punish anyone in his intelligence apparatus that turns out to have had a hand in the Hariri assassination. Bashar also blamed the assassination on his intelligence apparatus in his meeting with Prince Abdullah. The move with Ghazi is likely not linked to this, but it may be sold as such, given that he was at one point responsible for Lebanon. Yet, as we all know, Rustum was the one running the show, with Bashar's backing. That he's not being removed is indicative, and this is where the investigation (and potentially, Hamdan's testimony) can be valuable. The move to remove Ghazi is set to further empower Asef Shawkat, Bashar's in-law, who has been in charge for a while now anyway.

Farouq Sharaa is also leaving, as well as the head of Bashar's personal guard. These are also part of Bashar's consolidation campaign, which has so far slashed Khaddam and Bahjat Suleiman. Khaddam is rumored to have left the country, and so has Tlass. It's likely that the Hawi assassination is linked to this purge because of his ties with Khaddam and people in the interior, although I've heard a rumor that Hawi was sent by Jumblat to the Syrians to reopen channels. The Syrians responded bluntly.

Josh also remarked that a friend in Washington told him the Pentagon may be preparing for a punitive strike. I think this is long overdue. Bashar has been carrying out a proxy war in defiance of both the EU and the US. He killed Hariri and has practically paid no price for it, so he's quite emboldened. He needs to be hurt and cut down to size. The EU can hurt him economically, and they have been making statements to that effect and freezing the signing of the trade deals. But apparently he doesn't care much. This is not the price. Therefore, the EU has to decide whether to back a punitive strike or not, because this cannot be used by Bashar to split the EU and the US. This split is looking less likely now after the border fiasco. Ali Hamade in a column a couple of days ago said that the EU is mighty pissed with Syria. Therefore, they may end up supporting a limited strike.

This is the only thing that Bashar will understand. You cannot cut a deal with him now. It would be disastrous. You hit him hard first. Hurt him. Make him understand that such behavior will result in a painful hit. See a tangible reaction, then start talking with him on the strict basis of aide for reform and a change in foreign policy. This phrasing is almost identical to the EU line on Syria lately, including change in the regional policy (and not just internal reforms).

If Bashar is smart, he'll use the scapegoating wisely and toe that line (the scapegoating alone won't be enough to convince the EU and the US). However, it is imperative that he not be let off the hook so easily by simply scapegoating Ghazi or even Rustum. This is very important, because if not, he'll be emboldened to keep killing people with virtually no or little consequence. That would be disastrous. He should be hit hard. Then, should he make the decision to change policies, internally and externally, they can talk to him.

 
At 7/27/2005 01:13:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

To all Syrian oppositions, visit our new website www.ssprs.com and read the FAQ pages and the new Syria section including the SRP FM radio. Some very importatt material were added.

 
At 7/27/2005 01:22:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dendeshe SRP, Your sickness is disgusting. I have no doubt that all of these bloggers who suddenly are commenting from no-where just to support you and your fantasy character (mohamad the opposition alawi) they are just other characters in your sick mind.
You really think that bashar is blogging with you here??! you think I'm bashar?????!! Go seek help from a shrink because your case is developing everyday and God knows what next will come up.

 
At 7/27/2005 01:28:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite said...

http://beirut2bayside.blogspot.com/

 
At 7/27/2005 01:42:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

Looks like someone under a lot of pressure. Dude, I think you are the one unhinged, anyone can see that obvious state from your writting and threats to kill me.
I know who you are, I have your IP, and will get your ass.

 
At 7/27/2005 01:49:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 7/27/2005 01:51:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dendashe SRP, I have asked you before and I ask now again to get the IP address sum all the numbers and stick them up your ass.
So now your sick mind is imagining that you are a dangerous leader under death threats! I told you your case is developing! wake up sick son a bitch, you are nothing and with all the disgust that I feel when reading your sick comments, I really pity you.

 
At 7/27/2005 01:52:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite said...

The West should outlaw the Bathparty worldwide and confiscate the property of its members for the benefit of syrias youth if they support Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.

Syrians could live in wealth then.

What do you think, Your Excellency, so you could spare beg in europe for investments in syria.

 
At 7/27/2005 02:01:00 AM, Anonymous YOUR AGHA said...

I know who you are and will get your unhinged mentally sick ass soon.

 
At 7/27/2005 02:04:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

Aphrodite, what the hell is going on with unhinged mentally a gonner Baathist. Are you thinking what i am thinking too.

 
At 7/27/2005 02:07:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite said...

All the comments here who fight for HIM (PBUH) are written by himself or ordered to his chairholders (sorry; shareholders).

Imagine, a "king crane" or you can call him also "Giraffe" asked Prof Landis for our identities without shame.

Good morning Majesty, did you sleep well? We are awaiting your fresh posts here. God ahead.

Thanks and respect to Mohammed.

Aphrodite (syrian girl without future)

 
At 7/27/2005 02:09:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Some one called me and woke me up telling me that some thing is cooking tonite, this morning that will decide the fate of the Syrian regime.

This anonymous man, I am not sure why he is afriad of using a name instead of being so mysterious. I think it is you, SRP acting like the regime as well to show the men of the regime as cowards and stupid and disgusting. How many hats do you wear, SRPS?

I think something is being decided at this moment regarding Syria, and its regime. If there is really such a stupid person posting under an anonymous name and making such a fool of himself, and it is not you, SRP, I feel sorry for him, because their moment has come, and their days are numbered. What shall we do with them, SRP?

Anyway, this is my email:

ramsis4you@yahoo.com

Please, you genius anonymous, go back to the begining when I first posted, and study everything I wrote. You will find out that I am what I say I am, except the name Mohammed which I chose to counter the sectarian posts with it, and I am not that fond of it. However, I will keep it on this blog, but I exist every where else. You better believe it.

Mohammed (in need to sleep)

 
At 7/27/2005 02:09:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

HeHeHe, So many comments written on my behalf today, some by authorized persons and some by imposters who forged my name. I lost track of what I actually typed up on this blog comment section.

 
At 7/27/2005 02:14:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite (dreaming) said...

I have a dream
that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men (and women) are created equal." I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia (Syria)the sons (and daughters) of former slaves and the sons (and daughters) of former slaveowners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood (sisterhood). I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi (Syria), a desert state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

Martin Luther King

 
At 7/27/2005 02:25:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

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At 7/27/2005 02:26:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

I think I will start reading these posts from the beginning, I have no idea what the hell is going on.

 
At 7/27/2005 02:27:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

Will email you private Mohammad.

 
At 7/27/2005 02:28:00 AM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

If kingcrane writes me, he will not need Prof. Josh to tell him who I am. I will tell him.

I am not afraid, I say it loudly as Martha Stuart did!.

Mohammed (The courageous).

 
At 7/27/2005 02:33:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite (good night to all) said...

When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"

M. Luther King

 
At 7/27/2005 03:12:00 AM, Anonymous Aphrodite (unregistered) said...

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At 10:20 AM, kingcrane said...
to: Aphrodite.

No, I was not the anonymous above. I always sign my posts. About Ayman Abdelnour (AA), I knew his father, a man known for his honesty and integrity.

I know little about AA, except that he is the only real vocal reformer in the Ba'th Party rank and file. He is still a member of the Ba'th Party... But a very pragmatic one.

This interview is a copy of others AA has given before. The reactions (obscenities from the usual people) have devaluated this site. This is my last post, unless Josh does something. I would even volunteer my real name (I am an intellectual who left Syria because of mistakes made by the Ba'th before the war in 1967) if people who post on this site are required to register. So long. Peace!
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At 7/27/2005 05:42:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dandanshe, you don't get it do you? your sick game is busted, give it up you maniac! BTW it was a nice move offering your email address...sorry i mean Mohamad's email address "ramsis4you@yahoo.com" so now with this substantial proof we are sure that Mohamad exists!!!
I would like to suggest something to make it even more realistic and convincing to the audience: Why dont you & "mohamad" disagree on something and then exchange bad words, after that you get to be real friends and then you two unveil your homosexuality to each other, have sex, record it and put it as a link on your SRP website.

 
At 7/27/2005 05:50:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/27/2005 07:41:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

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At 7/27/2005 07:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sir:

There are amazingly now Arabic writers who write in Arabic sites, one of whom I have been visiting for a while www.elaph.com who are questioning the Quran, and uncovering the secret dual messages in it, and showing that Mohammed was nothing more than a politician, a very intelligent politician who, when he was weak, and had few supporters, and violence was absolutely not to his advantage, he "received" Surahs or scritptures from Allah that were so peaceful, loving, forgiving, etc... then when he migrated to Medina and so many in Medina accepted his message, he started to have power, and from then, the tune of the Quran changed. All the scriptures received from that point on called for killings, non forgivenenss, aggressiveness, and so much more. These people have listed all scriptures that call for peace and love, and then the ones that call for war and aggressiveness against the infidels even when they are peacful, not attacking him, and not wanting to fight him. In the Quran, there are two distinctive times, and scriptures are accordingly divided between "makieh" before the migration to Medina, and "medanieh" after the migration, and the differences between the two is very well felt.

I think that when Hafez Assad died in 2000, he met with Allah and discussed with him the Muslim situation and how Allah people are so divided and weak, and together they plotted the next 100 years of strategy for Muslims, and decided to increase the influence of the Medina scritptures among Muslim, and made muslims (by vision from above) doing more of that crap than before 2000. I believe that Hafez Assad is now at the right hand of Allah as the Syrian Ulama clergy Bouti said back then in 2000. He was so perceiving.

What I wanted to say is that the discussion has already started, thank to the wonderful Internet.

 
At 7/27/2005 08:53:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alawi Tarek is angry at what the Annonymous wrote. This is exactly the problem among the Fanatic Alawi Muslims for whom Jehad is the ultimate prize, and death is their ultimate honour so they can meet the 43 Virgins in heaven.

Ask Assad if he met any. Bouti talks to him nightly.

The problem within Islam is the Alawi doctrine that the Saudi regime is preaching.

 
At 7/27/2005 08:56:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/27/2005 09:11:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

Your visions are quiet extraordinary. Hope you had your video camera when you saw all of these thing happen with God. I am an Atheist so obviously i think Mohammed is a regular man, but so is Jesus, Moses, Abraham and all whole lot of them. But when you talk about only one religion it only proves my point that you’re just another racist bigot. And from what i hear about your ideas and visions. It also seems you enjoy a bit of LSD.

And to the confused individual who just posted I would like to say…. HUH??????
Are you really from the region? What Alwai doctrine are the Saudi Sunni Whabbies preaching? Cause if I read both they seem quiet contradictory. And if royal highness could spare us your opinion, do you also agree that Islam is the root of all terror like your counter part does?

Islam is being oppressed by fundamentalists and by their critics to give it an undeserving bad image. The differences between the three Abrahamic religions and their offshoot sects are MINIMAL. It’s only when fundamentalists try to focus only on the difference that we all get into trouble. I hate to sound like a conspiracy theory freak, but why do you never call Nazi’s Christian fundamentalists & terrorist, or what about the Bosnian war? How about the evangelical Christians that preach hate to everyone else in the bible belt states in the US? No one denies the Muslim community holds most of the blame, but I can’t stand this double standard and crap it’s given. While the world allows other, equally violent and hateful, terrorists do as they please.

One last thing, what does Islamic terror have to do with the Syrian government. If you are too stupid to notice, they are a secetarian government. So with all their faults you have to give them that one.

 
At 7/27/2005 09:26:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/27/2005 10:52:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

My last post wasn't mine... somebody is obviously misusing my idedntity.

 
At 7/27/2005 01:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 7/27/2005 01:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, one more note, do not classify me as some one from the opposition. I am a supporter of the Asad family. I support the regime. I like Bashar. I like his brother Maher. We are still friends. There is no reason for me to be in the opposition. Still, love hurts!

 
At 7/27/2005 04:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

testing toime zone

 
At 7/27/2005 04:24:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

The Agha and or SSPRS did not post the above religious related comments. Religion is not of our concern. We are atheists.

Falsely representing a real person or pretending to be a Corporate entity which you are not, and making death threats are a Federal crimes. We keep IP addresses, investigate and setup sting operation to catch those making such threats or false representation. All evidences will be turned to the FBI, should they not be interested or could not prosecute because of jurisdiction limitation, SSPRS will take action on it's own in accordance with the laws of the Party security. We rather handle this matter on our own, but will give law enforcement the first chance to bring those offenders to justice.

 
At 7/27/2005 05:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

SRP: What are you talking about? Where in hell do you see that some one impersonated you? I don't see that. The people who spoke about religion are Anonymous. Do I not see ?

 
At 7/27/2005 06:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

{reeeaaaddddyyyy tooo HUMMMMBlE} Poster Tarek said.

We know you are homsexual. Do you have to repeat that in all of your posts?

 
At 7/27/2005 09:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU CAN TELL FROM ALL THESE NOTES WHY SYRIA IS STILL A DICTATERSHIP NOBODY HAS GOOD IDEAS TO IMPROVE THE COUNTRY AND SOMBODY SUGGESTS SOMTHING THEY ATTACK HIM UNFORTINATLY THE ONES WITH GOOD IDEAS ARE THE SYRIANS OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY WHO DID NOT LET ANYBODY TELL THEM THAT THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH ,IN THE UNITED STATES I DO NOT KNOW OF SYRIAN WHO ARE NOT SUCCESFULL,THE SAME WILL HAPPEN IN SYRIA WITH PEACFULL ECONOMIC REFORM AND FREE MARKET WITH SAFTY NET FOR THE POOR.

 
At 7/27/2005 09:53:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHy are you using capital letters, and shouting, mr. philosopher?

Your empty words mean nothing. Just listen to yourself, and realise that you went in circles. You said nothing.

Go back to the hole you just left!

 
At 7/27/2005 09:59:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU ARE ONE OF THE PEOPLE I WAS TALKING ABOUT,I DO NOT WANT TO LOOK FOR YOU SO I WILL NOT LOOK IN THE HOLE.

 
At 7/27/2005 10:15:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Turn your fucking caps off.

 
At 7/28/2005 01:24:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Al Jazeera reported:
Actually, the Jews are behind Bashar al Assad as well, he is actually an Israeli agent. Syrian government itself is a Jewish plot. The Jews developed government and party as a way of keeping Syrians poor, stupid, and powerless. IT IS WORKING!

 

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