Thursday, November 17, 2005

Fighter Infiltration from Syria into Iraq" by Abdullah Ta'i

Fighter Infiltration via Abu Kamal, Syria into Iraq
By Abdullah al-Ta’i
November 15, 2005
Written for “Syria Comment” thanks to the Apamea Fund
Translated by Maha Kashour

When the United States declared war on Iraq on 19 March 2003, Muftis in several Arab countries announced that jihad in the defense of Iraq was a direct obligation (fard ayn) for each and every Arab Muslim. Syria was the first Arab country to declare jihad, when Grand Mufti Sheikh Ahmed Kaftaru issued a fatwa proclaiming that “Jihad in Iraq is an fard ayn for every Muslim.” His motive was political for it coincided with the opening of the Syrian-Iraqi boarder to whoever wanted to fight in Iraq.

Fighters from all regions of Syrian and most Arab countries gathered in Abu Kamal because it has the closest and easiest access to Iraq. Some mosque preachers and religious sheikhs assumed the role of organizers, ensuring the fighters entry to Iraq and providing them with religious and practical guidance before they left. Since fighters knew little about the geography of the region this guidance was important.

A friend of mine who lives near the Syrian-Iraqi boarder in Abu Kamal told me that he once went for dawn prayer at a mosque close to his house and noticed that the mosque was full of people, which was unusual in such a small town. He wondered why there were so many worshipers. Next morning, he learned they were a group of fighters who had gathered in Abu Kamal on their way into Iraq. This situation continued until the collapse of the Iraqi regime. Since then, Abu Kamal has become infamous as the passageway to Iraq. Later on, it became the Qa’aba for fighters who found security and hospitality in it due to religious and social considerations. The closest Iraqi village is two hours walking distance from Abu Kamal, which is not the case at any other point of the Syrian-Iraqi border.

However, the situation did not continue this way much beyond the first months of the invasion. The American pressure on Syria with regard to controlling the border increased and it became a security and political burden on Syria, especially after the tension in the region resulting from the war on Iraq. This motivated the Syrian Government to intensify security surveillance at the border areas (Abu Kamal), which was noticeable to me as an inhabitant of the area.

The Syrian Authorities established two checkpoints at Shamyah and Al-Jazeera points in Abu Kamal because the Euphrates River divides it into two areas. Today, the number of security agents and employees in Abu Kamal almost equals the number of inhabitants of the town. They have frightened the people and enter into every aspect of social and political life in the border towns. It is not an exaggeration to say that they have stopped the infiltration of foreigners into the border region as well as restricting the infiltration of local Syrians across the border. Many correspondents have also been coming to the Abu Kamal over the months of October and November 2005. I have visited Abu Kamal three times since the beginning of Ramadan and each time, I have been stopped and interrogated by the mukhabarat with great care. It is impossible to make a move in the region these days without stirring up the interest and suspicion of the local police.

In the past there were corrupt government officials However, the problem is not with the Syrian Government’s measures but with the involvement of some inferior intelligence elements, who engage in corruption without the knowledge of the central authorities.

Attraction of money

Money plays an essential role in such cases. I personally have never seen corruption and the spread of bribes in Syria more than what I have seen in Albukamal, especially the intelligence elements that you can buy with only small amounts of money. These elements are bribed by illegal merchants (smugglers) between Syria and Iraq. And those smugglers export fighters to Iraq and this way the illegal trade and exporting fighters is mixed up and intelligence elements are lost in this maze without trying to differentiate between smuggling and exporting fighters.

The central problem in policing the border region during 2004 and until recently is that Abu Kamal is very far from Damascus, not only geographically, but also administratively and economically. Traditionally there has been very little central authority in the region, which has meant that resources do not reach the Jazira and there has been minimal administrative oversight. The people feel like the government ignores them and they ignore the government accordingly. Very few resources are invested in the region, which has caused disrespect for central authority. In the past many people felt closer to Iraq than to Syria. Intelligence officers in the region developed the habit of running their own show, with few controls. Before the war, there was a long history of smuggling and ignoring the border, not only by the local population, but also by the various branches of the security apparatus. The spread of corruption made it very difficult for Damascus to impose its will on the region through orders from the capital.

The government banned non-Syrian Arabs from entering Abu Kamal, without specific permission, but this did not mean that they couldn’t get through. Smugglers could often find a way to help fighters in return for large sums of money. These people can ensure the entry of fighters to Baghdad either via the Euphrates River, or via the desert far from any observation. Both ways are easy for the inhabitants since they know the geography of the area. The river route is easier as it is an unofficial point of entry and empty of any checkpoint and far from civil observation. Swimming for two hours is enough to cross the border.
Local Feelings
I would like to add a new and important thing at the end. People in Abu Kamal are Muslim Sunni and they have a tribal belonging. In addition, they are attached to Iraq and have a high sense of belonging to it, which played an important role in pushing them to fight in Iraq. Many believed sincerely that Saddam Hussein as an Arab hero, who belonged to their tribes and traditions and who championed their interests. He spoke in their dialect and took special care with their tribal concerns, which Damascus often did not. Sneaking across the boarder for a person from the area is much easier than going to a Deir El-Zur, the capital of the Governorate, which is 125 km from Abu Kamal. When you enter some of Abu Kamal shops, you see photos of people from Abu Kamal hanging on the walls. They are even posted in the streets. They are people who died in Iraq, fighting along side their cousins.

Is Syria to Blame for Suicide Bombings in Iraq
Americans and Iraqis have always accused Syria of encouraging foreign fighters to go into Iraq across the border. Last week, the Iraqi Defense Minister Saadoun al-Dulaimi claimed that Syria was providing training camps for Jihadists and helping them to cross the border with booby–trapped cars. He insisted that nine-tenths of all suicide bombers in Iraq were foreign fighters and that most came through Syria. Two days later, 6 Iraqis from his own clan of the Dulaimi confederation of Ramadi blew themselves up in three Jordanian hotels, killing and wounding 200 innocent Jordanians and Syria’s most famous movie producer, Moustapha Akkad. To Syrians it is clear that Iraqi officials are trying to blame Syria for their own failings and an internal Iraqi situation that they have no means of controlling and do not seem to understand. They cannot even control their own families.

Time Line of Syrian Cooperation
This does not mean that Syria has been totally innocent. If we are to draw a time line of Syrian cooperation on the border, we can say that during the first months of the war, Syria did actively encourage militants to go to Iraq. By May and June of 2003, this policy changed, due to American pressure and Syria's realization that it would not itself be invaded by America. During much of 2004, there was no active support by the government, but local officials did little to hurt the local smugglers and population who were sympathetic to the cause of the Iraqi resistance or involved in corrupt practices. Some local officials were also involved in this corruption, making it difficult for the government to bring it under control.

By 2005 and particularly after the murder of Hariri, when US pressure intensified, more and more security officials were sent to the Abu Kamal region to set up road blocks and to police the corrupt officials. Many people from the region who traveled to Iraq to fight during the first months of the war, and subsequently returned, have been arrested or are followed and scared by the secret police.

Over the last four or five months, the security presence in the region has been vastly increased and the local population has become too scared to even think about smuggling people into Iraq. During the spring, one still heard people in the region boast about the money they had made by helping foreigners get to Iraq. This is no longer the case. Everyone is frightened and the tribal shaykhs have warned their people to follow the law and be careful.

We cannot say that there is absolutely no infiltration across the border by foreign fighters today, but what does take place must be done very secretly and with great skill. It also must cost the fighter many thousands of dollars. The American campaign on the Iraqi side of the border during the last several months has also created much fear among the Syrians of the border towns. A number of local inhabitants have been killed by American fire across the border. People from the region are scared of the Americans and of their own secret police.

The Syrian measures have stopped many from sneaking across, but it requires cooperation and liaison at the American end. There are still almost no Iraqi or American border guards and this is two and a half years after the American invasion. America has many more resources than Syria. Many believe that if the US really believed infiltrators from Syria were a major source of the violence in Iraq, they would have found a way staff their side of the border and would cooperate with Syrians. Nothing is impossible, and these things are can be accomplish.

Today, Syrians are frightened that their country will become like Jordan, a target for Iraqi terrorists and extremists; they are also frightened that more Syrians will be killed by Americans soldiers. Even worse, they worry that their government is being targeted by America though the Security Council and this will eventually increase the instability in the region. When Americans say that Syria is not cooperating on the Iraq border, this is not true. Either the Americans do not know what is happening at the border or they refuse to admit that Syria is helping them. If there are still fighters infiltrating into Iraq through Abu Kamal, they must be very few, smart and rich.

Abdullah Al-Ta’i

Also See "Living, and dying, for one's country," by Sami Moubayed on a smiliar topic. He ends his article with this:

The fact the suicide bombers in Amman were all Iraqi citizens proves that Iraq is no longer an importer of terrorism, as Bush accused it of being under Saddam Hussein. It has now become a leading manufacturer and exporter of terrorism. As with Afghanistan under the Taliban, it is a base from which al-Qaeda can train troops, launch operations and destabilize both Iraq and its Arab neighbors.

In April 2004, a group of terrorists who had been to Iraq crossed the border into Syria and launched a terror attack at a UN building in Damascus. In June this year, Kuwait caught militants trying to smuggle explosives into the country from Iraq. After meeting with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak this month, Iraqi National Security Advisor Mouwafaq al-Rabii accused Damascus of facilitating the influx of foreign fighters through its borders to fight the Americans in Iraq. He said, "We don't have the slightest doubt that nine out of 10 suicide bombers are Arabs that cross the border from Syria."

Yet Iraq is in a shambles because some Iraqis, Saddam's leftovers and Zarqawi's terrorists, do not want Iraq to become a pro-Western democracy. Syria happens to be located at the crossroads, and happens to share very long borders with Iraq (605 kilometers). The number of eloquent Syrians who can convincingly defend its stance and plead innocence is very limited, and given that Damascus is still ruled by the Ba'ath Party, it's even easier to accuse Syria of working with ex-Iraqi Ba'athist officials.

154 Comments:

At 11/17/2005 06:29:00 AM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

Thanks to the US occupation and the new appointed so called democratice government??, Iraq now needs no more foreign fighters. After two years and half of living in democracy, Iraq now has a flod of fighters and is now exporting them abroad.
So far the Iraqi fighters reached Jordan and who knows where else they could reach.
The US & UK and the failing Iraqi government have to blam themselves for what is happening in our region. Syria has nothing to do with it.

 
At 11/17/2005 07:02:00 AM, Blogger BP said...

READ THE TRUTH ABU ARAB!!!!!!!!!


France has been in the spotlight over the last few weeks for its apparent lack of offering opportunities to the minorities and accusations of racism. Furthermore minorities are said to be isolated and neglected. A person who does not know France better will believe these many accusations and probably sympathize with the “suffering minorities”. I have spent many of the best years of my life in Paris … the capital of history, culture, and secularism. Before I go any further let me quote a very relevant part of the constitution of France. It clearly states “France shall be an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic. It shall ensure the equality of all citizens before the law, without distinction of origin, race or religion. It shall respect all beliefs.” During my years in Paris this part of the constitution was exercised fully by every citizen in the country. French people would welcome me into their homes, acquaint me with their rich culture and even help me master their language. This is the France I know and the France I love.


When a great civilization like this is blatantly accused of “racism” it completely shocks anyone who has experienced the freedom and racial equality of this great nation. In any country in the world there are always those who are under privileged. However, to accuse a nation of total injustice is extreme and unfair. In many cases many of those protesting the apparent discrimination in France don’t want to integrate into this great civilization, nor do they try to achieve a better life in a country of opportunity. They would rather benefit from a generous social security system that offers them a fairly acceptable life-style. When an individual decides to embark on a new life in another country they should try to accept and adapt to this new culture, values and life-style rather than impose their own on this new country that has welcomed them.


If people decide not to integrate the least they can do, out of respect for the host nation, is not try to change the culture and beliefs of the country. Rather than choosing a path of violence and destruction immigrants should benefit from some of these great countries they call home. My cherished memories of France are still fresh today. Shortly after my arrival I clearly remember being familiarized with three key words relating to everything French “Liberte, equalite, Fraternite” (Liberty, Equality and Fraternity). Inspite of what some may say, this belief stands valid today and France will stand the test of the rough times it is going through.

Vive La France!

 
At 11/17/2005 07:45:00 AM, Blogger Freedom4Syria said...

I will be making the case for the need to change the regime in Syria. And to explain why for the United States it is not an option any more but a necessity. For unless the regime in Syria is changed and the peculiar balance in the Middle East is restored, the situation will be increasingly worse in Iraq and everywhere else.
The invasion of Iraq and the ending of the Sunni minority dominance over the Shi’ia majority in that country disrupted a certain balance in the region that was keeping things under control for a long time.
One cannot ignore the fact that the anticipated Shi’ia control of a future Iraq has a tremendous risk for the West. For even though at the moment the Ayatollahs of Iraq are cooperating to some extent with the US, the future will prove that at one point after they guarantee that they have a good control over Iraq they will turn to their Shi’ia brethren in Iran and forge an alliance with them. Of course this alliance already exists but is not in the interest of both parties to make it known.
On the other hand Syria and Iran have already forged a very strong alliance since the 1980s. A Shi’ia offshoot minority that controls a country of a Sunni majority after all rules Syria. And finally there is the Hezbollah in Lebanon, another Shi’ia power that is heavily armed and has a strong alliance with both the Shi’ia in Iran and Syria.
So one can see without much difficulty that the United States has knowingly or unknowingly created a Shi’ia axis that extend from Tehran to South Lebanon. And this axis that cannot be anything but an “Axis of Evil” will turn against the US and fight every interest of the West in the Middle East. And this very axis will eventually turn its eyes on the Gulf states where there is a sizeable Shi’ia minority that could be mobilized and inspired to create its own independent state in a region that supply most of the Oil that the West and the US depend on. Finally this Axis will turn to Israel at which point a nuclear war is a very possible scenario, especially with Iran pursuing nuclear ambitions.
So how would changing the Syrian regime restore the balance? The answer is simple. Changing the Syrian regime or more specifically removing the Shi’ia Alwis from power and helping a moderate secular Sunni ascension to power in that country will essentially disrupt the Axis that is forming now. Such a change will install in Damascus a new government that is friendly to the US and at odds with the Shi’ia of Iraq and Iran, as well as ending all help and support to Hezbollah that comes from Syria.
The United States should not believe in or depend on any promises given by the current Syrian regime about any of the issues, be it the support of terrorism as embodied in entities like Hezbollah or promises about democracy.
On a recent travel to Syria it was interesting to see how many portrait of Mr. Hasan Nassrallah (the head of Hezbollah) were displayed on cars and shops, mainly where the Alawis live. For me that was a sign of how deep and important this Shi’ia alliance was for the Syrian regime. For the mere fact that the regime allowed portrait of someone other than Assad and his family to be displayed publicly is very telling.

 
At 11/17/2005 08:08:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

very deep racism ahhhh i mean analysis went into that last comment

 
At 11/17/2005 08:17:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

BP, Well done. Arabs are in denial and refuse to acknoledge that we have a lot to learn from western civilization. Regrettably, the fact that they practice a different religion could well be the main culprit. The Arab world views western civilizations with a confused sense of suspicion, envy, fear and jealousy. There will inevitably be subsequent and very quick attacks on these comments and the so-called decadance and racism of the west.

As to Dr. Landis's main story, there are good reasons to believe that the role of Iraq's foreign insurgents is exaggurated. Two months ago, a major offensive on the insugent-held city of Tal Afar, close to the Syrian Border resulted in 200 insurgent deaths, and the capture of nearly 1000 suspects. But none of them were from foreign countries, the Washington Post reported. Having said this, Bashar's initial policy of supporting the insurgency was a fatal error in judgement. Shockingly, he amplified his tragic mistakes by pushing for Lahoud's new term and the rest is history. When you lead a nation close to 20 million people and make such monumental errors in judgement, it is simply unnatural for you to be able to carry on like nothing has happened. Instead, he tries to convince his citizens and the world that his country is targeted and that this is a conspiricy against his nation. Sadly, a significant number of people are buying it.

Freedom4Syria makes an excellent point higlighting the relevence of the Iran axis. A sunni western educated technocrat backed by a professional Army General would be a dream scenario for the U.S. Administration.

 
At 11/17/2005 08:39:00 AM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

BP,

Thank you for your polite response.

I can not just accept your personal expereince and ignor the expierence of 3 million living in france. Equality, Freedom is something that has proved to be applicable only on the white French and not others.

It also depends on how far the minorities can adapt. Freedom should mean freedom of faith. Can you please tell me what the Muslim head cover (Hijab) has to do with the French freedom? Can we ask the Christians in Syria to hide their cross, because this hurts others' feelings?

Immigrants in france are no longer guests, they are French. They also want France and the French to integrarte some of their values and culture or at least accept it. It's impossible to get rid of your skin just because you live in Paris.

Moving on to Syria. When you compare what's happening to the minorities in other third world countries especially Africa, we will soon realize that minorities in Syria are living in Heaven. At least the Syrian President belong to a minority Alawet, but he is an Arab. that's what's important here.

Look at the Kurds in Iraq, they behave in a way that Iraq means nothing to them, their only concern is Kurdistan and oil. Syrian leaders should not allow this example to be repeated in Syria, otherwise the intrests of the Majority and other minorities will be wasted.

If you apply what you've mentioned in your comment about the what immigrants in France in terms of integration and accepting the host country's rules, then Kurds, Christians and other minorities in Syria, should integrate and respect the majorities rules. Why can't the Kurds accept to speak Arabic in schools. or do they expect us to speak Kurdy rather than Arabic, and likewise the French speak Arabic rather than French.

The TRUTH IS that we need to go back to the history of th region during the Islamic Empire period where non-muslim minorities had to pay tax for living in the Muslim's land?

End

 
At 11/17/2005 09:03:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Freedom for syria said:
"I will be making the case for the need to change the regime in Syria. And to explain why for the United States it is not an option any more but a necessity"

We known that for some time (few decades), we tried hard and harder. No one listening. The sad part is nothing will be changed, so we stoped the effort.

So if you have time, keep on trying, thanks for the effort and new energy.

 
At 11/17/2005 10:15:00 AM, Blogger Ausamaa said...

Just a short comment on the notion "Is Syria to Blame for the Sucied bombings in Iraq"....

Who is fooling who????

1- Zaarqawi operates in Iraq with strong connections in Jordan, right? That is if he is not infliterated or encouraged by we can guess who.
2- You have millions of members of the "cleverly" dispanded Iraqi Army with tons of munitions at thier desposal. Right?
3- Iraq has a long long border with Iran and many Iraqies are very close to Tehran.Right?
4- Saudi also has the same long boarder with Iraq, and if terrorsists can operate with a certain degree of freedom in Riyadh, they can also manage inflitrations into Iraq. One can assume so. Right?
5- The Mossad is documented to be operating in Iraq (actually it would stupid for the Mossad NOT to operate in Iraq given Israel's self interest) and is hence capable of organizing violent attacks, either directely and oppenly in collaberation withy many, or of carrying out "false-flage" operations where the sucide bombers think they are acting for some one else. If the Brits were caught red handed in duopious military acts,the Mossad should not be expected to be less enterprising. Right?
6- Bush has an agenda against Syria and Syria's roll in the region that needs to be legetimized to the US and the World's public opinion at any cost. He and his administration have repeatedly "miss-represented" the facts on many issues be it Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Qaida, Guantanamo, the US budget, and the list is endless. So, a little more "miss representationtan" would not be too much to expect. Right?
7- Syria is a very good ally of Iran, if Iran has thought that Syria was behind such suicide attacks the victims of which are mostly civilian shee'ats, one would expect Iran to express its displeasure to Syria. Right?


Does the above give a resemblance of a realistic answer to the question wether Syria is behind such atacks???

The problem is that a lot of people have turned off either thier brains or thier concience? Why would any one expect us all to do the same, we are " stupid Arabs", but not that stupid really..!! the majority any way are not regardless of how it appears on the surface...

 
At 11/17/2005 10:30:00 AM, Blogger Nafdik said...

Abu Arab,

Your comment that minrities in Syria should integrate like immigrants do in France omits one important fact.

These minorities have lived in Syria for a long time, some earlier than the majority Sunnis. They have no duty to integrate into a host country, since they are in THEIR country.

The government should respect and protect all segments of its society. Otherwise the unprotected will rightly want to seperate from the majority.

Of course this not only a Syrian problem, Catholics in Irland, Basques in Spain, Francophones in Canada and Tchechen in Russia are examples of this problem.

A successful nation has to reach a political compromise between the desire for coherence and the rights of minorities.

 
At 11/17/2005 10:38:00 AM, Blogger Nafdik said...

Freedom4Syria makes a very compelling analysis on the Shia axis.

It is interesting and telling that the most secular government in the middle east will have as its only ally the most theocratic.

Suppose Syria was controlled by a conservative sunni muslim movement, some sort of Ikhwan 2.0, would that it have less or more affinity with a conservative Shia movement in Iraq?

 
At 11/17/2005 10:51:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Nafdik, good question. My view? Nice and dandy while the Americans (Kuffar) are around, and all hell will break loose after they are gone.

 
At 11/17/2005 10:52:00 AM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

Ausamaa,

I strongly agree with you, you have touched the point that many can't see.

part of these suspicious attacks especially on Shia'ts were not just to inflame the divisions, which already exist now between Iraqies.

This will strongly support the Israeli agenda in the region, by dividing Iraq and later on Syria and maybe Saudi Arabia into contradicted tiny states where Israel is the largest and the strongest among them.

 
At 11/17/2005 11:23:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Here we go again, to the favourite past time sport of blaming Israel for everything. The Mossad is in Iraq bombing Shias and Americans so that Syria can be undermined. Cut it out, please. You use circular logic. We have inept leaders constantly making idiotic mistakes. Isreal will of course benefit as a result. Because they benefit, our brains immediately rush to the conclusion that, aha, the Mossad must be behind it.

 
At 11/17/2005 11:49:00 AM, Blogger Nafdik said...

What I find most amusing is that we are so sure of the incompetence of Arab leaders and groups, that whenever something works it is Mossad.

eg Only the mossad posseses the means to kill Hariri or blow up the Trade Center.

I suspect that the reason we love to blame Israel, the US, etc for our woes is that it makes us feel powerless and sice we are powerless we are not responsible.

Let us admit that we are 95% responsible for having such inept leaders, for our civil wars, for wasting our natural resources, etc, and the we might have a chance to improve our lot.

 
At 11/17/2005 12:02:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Presumably, the only reason the recent Amman bombing did not get blamed on the Mossad is because one of them did not work?

 
At 11/17/2005 12:39:00 PM, Blogger Ausamaa said...

Ok Gentelemen, thank you for enlightening all of us and bringing us to the following conclusions:

1- The US administration is doing all this in the interest of Democracy, Freedom and for the love of the people of the middle east, the Greater one, that is.
2-Israel and the Mossad are not medling in the affairs of the region. If they are medling, then it is only to take advantage of the "Grave" mistakes of Syria.
3- The Middle East is not a 'prize' that many powers are after. And those powers have always had the interests of the Arabs very close to thier hearts.
4- The western powers are also keen on having us do good things to ourselves such as Progress, Freedome, Democracy, civilized societies, .. you know..., all the good things that you can hear our good friend President Bush advocate whenever a TV camera is around.
5- Syria is a sectarian, oppresive, backward, and a country on the edg of "imploding" after it so shamelessly killed Al Hariri and robbed poor inocent Lebanon of its verginity and the $40 billion General Aoun is "really" worried about.
6- Syria did not commit mistakes which any country defiant to the west can make under the pressures it was continuously subjected to, no, no,no, Syria is a rouge country since the Baath took over in 1963. No actually, it is a bad apple since independence.
7- Syria has not been in the cross hairs of the US, France and Britan since the first coupe in the fiftees. Maybe Bashar al Assad also helped organize that coupe then!
8-Sykes Picot, the Balfour Declaration, the Baghdad Pact, Clean Break and the agenda of the new cons, are all creations of the usual suspicious and conspiratorial mind. And, ahhh, finally, Mr. Mehlis is a clean and unbiased German judge who has not issued issued a childish speculative incomplete report which can be used to blackmail Syria into obedience, and he is definitly unlike that Australian guy who sowre by his mother that Saddam had Chemical, Biological and Nuclear weapons in Iraq which provided the "iron-clade" justification for invading and democratizing Iraq.

Now that I admit to "seeing the light" and while thanking the "unbiased" and "enlighted" soles who object to my previous stand, observations and remarks, I take the chance to congratulate all those "smart", "history-reading", openminded EXPERTS on thier success in convincing me of all the above and I humbly admit to my ignorance. To them I again extend my thanks for making me see the light with thier balanced, informative, and good intentioned posts.


P.S., Only problem you guys have got is that you have managed to convert me, but you still have twenty million Syrians to work on, not to say the whole Arab people, and not to mention the US public opinion even.... Mabrook and good luck with converting them....

 
At 11/17/2005 12:44:00 PM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

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At 11/17/2005 12:49:00 PM, Blogger Ghassan said...

I agree with you Nafdek. EVERYTHING is being blamed on someone else because we feel inferior and we are willing to take responsibility! If Syria did not kill Hariri, why it is not cooperating? Why didn't it start its own investigation while it was controlling Lebanon?

The government officials care about their positions and thrones more than about the people whom it governs. Why the Syrians are losing their life saving (the Syrian Lira lost more than 15% since Hariri was assassinatd) and later will be subjected to sanctions just because of the mistake of the rulers?

When officials admit mistakes then the country will move forward, otherwise it will go backward!

 
At 11/17/2005 02:45:00 PM, Blogger RM said...

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At 11/17/2005 03:00:00 PM, Blogger RM said...

Since the Omayade times, the sunni have held power in the land of Syria.

The current Syrian regime has been using Arabism to give itself much needed -- but no where to be found -- legitimacy.

Please, can anyone answer me why the Syrian regime -- this great arab regime -- is not resisting in the Golan heights?????

 
At 11/17/2005 03:17:00 PM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

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At 11/17/2005 03:20:00 PM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

Ehsani2

In contrast with your usually informed comments, I find your analysis of the Sunni-Shia tensions in Iraq to be very misinformed.

You claim that we Arabs are basically conspiracy-theorists, and that such conflicts are the doings of our inept leaders.

Probably I should remind you that it's in the US and Israel's SUPREME advantage that a civil war breaks out in Iraq, based on the "Divide & Conquer" strategy.

Also, I will remind you of the British MI6 agents who where caught shooting at Iraqi police in a Shia area, while dressed as Arabs. This is just a tiny bit of the iceberg of US and UK terrorist activities against Shia and Sunnis to inflame the civil war.

The paper "A Clean Break" provides some pointers as to what these bastards have in store for the region: they want Hashemite control of Iraq after removing Saddam (this was in '96). Also, they wanted to roll-back Syria, which they for the most part have succeeded in doing (out of Lebanon, isolated).

Aiding and abetting such behavior by Arabs only makes them partners in the crime being hatched. It's funny that even Israel doesn't want Bashar to go down, whereas Bolton wants to 'kick his ass'.
I personally think that 99% of the pressure on Syria is to reveal all their files on Hizbullah and leave it on its own. Lebanon is indeed becoming a US/France client state and is going to deal with Hizbullah confrontationally sooner or later.

Frankly, I would much rather have a 'Shia Axis' that is strong and pro-Arab, than an extremist and violent Ikhwan rule in Syria, and a drug-addicted sex-ring-cabal rulers in Lebanon (led by Hariri Jr.).

 
At 11/17/2005 03:26:00 PM, Blogger RM said...

DBlood:

The Alouite regime clean? The Alaouite regime strong? Maybe this is why Israel is ignoring you so much and Sharon the other said the Golan will never be returned.

A regime that is more violent than the Alaouite one? That his hard to find. The sunni of Syria are the least violent because historically they have occupied the cities and been close to the christians.

the Alalouites form an Ibn Khaldunian `assabyia and they are the one who have shown the greatest propensity to violence (Does Hama ring a bell???)

Anyway, this Syrian regime has messed up the land of Lebanon for too long a time and this is the first things you guys must recognize. The truth will soon come out anyway.

 
At 11/17/2005 03:35:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

BP

I am curious about your experience in France and am wondering if you can shed some light....

The French people that welcomed you and showed no racism--do you think that welcome unconditional? If at some get-together, instead of say toasting a glass of champagne with the group, what if you had declined and asked to pray the evening prayer in a different room--in your experience, do you think there would still be no racism??

Its my theory that maybe there is a welcome and no racism as long as the immigrant will concede his or her own culture or religious beliefs from the home country to that of the new country.

This isn't always the case. In America, Italian-Americans retain much of their culture, the same can be said for Mexican-Americans, Jews, and even Arab-Americans carving great communities in Michigan, NY and California.

But I only have theories about Europe in general, where if current projections hold, the 12.5 million Muslims may be the majority in 50? years or so. So its a very relavent and critical issue that Europe is facing and America will eventually face as well.

Concerning the riots, I think the youths in France are not willing to make that religious/cultural concession and hence are discriminated against. And I wonder what you can tell me about these famed suburbs in France. Are these the equivalents of American 'projects'? And do you have personal experience there or otherwise?

 
At 11/17/2005 03:56:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

Freedom4Syria's astute case for regime change in Syria may very well be the main part of neocon argument for regime change!! Maybe that is why they are hell-bent on regime change.

The fact is that the Shiites in Iraw have been very much passivated by Aytoallah Sistani. If it wasn't for his non-violent views, we could easily have more bloodshed. And it is just a matter of time before the elderly Sistani will pass away giving more radical shiites free to make alliances with Iran and rail against America and Israel!

Yes the future looks quite bleak with nuclear Israel and potential nuclear 'Shi'aa axis' extending to Lebanon!

Insightful comments Freedom4Syria and I would agree with you that Bashar should be removed for this point, but I think the same effect would be achieved if the US just let up on him and would not force him into the arms of Iran. I think Bashar's alliance with Iran is one of neccessity and reality on the ground rather than ideology or common Shia background.

And yes Ehsani2, wouldn't America love it if a Syrian General Pervez Musharaff took over power in Syria? (I think they would prefer having the professional army general directly in power) It is interesting to note how Musharraf took power from former prime minister nawar sharif:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/475195.stm

It is also interesting to note how unstable Pakistan still is, and how most of Musharraf's countrymen can not stand their leader for his support of American foreign policy.

 
At 11/17/2005 03:58:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Every leader has the responsibilty to execute policies that advance the interests of his people and country at large. G.W.Bush has two broad prime objectives. He and every US president takes the oath to protect the American people and to improve and protect their standards of living. Note the word, "their" which refers to the American people. One of the major long term risks for the U.S. economy is the security and continued availability of crude oil and gas. It will be naive to think that the U.S. is not and will not have major influence in our region for years to come. Once you concur with this, one will have to ask what strategies and alliances would the U.S. make in this region. To simplify things, let us assume that you are the U.S. president. Would you rely and trust a nation that implicitly and explicitly undermines your policies and interests in the area? Or, would you instead rely and trust a nation that has done nothing but befirended your country since its creation?

Sir, It would fly in the face of sense and common logic for the U.S. not to support Israel and to instead advance the interests of people that publicly declare a jihad against it. I know what you are thinking; it is the U.S. policies towards Israel that make the Arabs angry. I would argue that the Arab world needs to accept the indisputable fact that America is there and will be there to protect its own interests and that it is time for us to work with it rather than against it. The problem is that the vast majority of our people think with their hearts (awatef) rather then with their heads. If I were Bashar, I would say the following:

1- The U.S. is now on my door step. They have built a $600 million embassy on a 99-year leased land in Baghdad. They are not therefore going away anytime soon.
2- I am the leader of a poor country with crumbling infrastructure and a broken economic system. I am surrounded by Israel from the south, turkey from the North and the American Army from the west. I am from a minority who is only able to stay in power because of draconian security measures and emergency laws.
3- Based on 1 and 2 above, it is time for me to take my nation into a new and uncharted territory. From now on, I will start betting on the winning horse just like my enemy Israel has done since 1948.

I will immediately send an army battalian to Iraq's Sunni Triangle to help restore law and order. Just like my father crushed the Ikhwan here, I will do the same there. I will even pick Asef to do it (he was leader of Mudahame division). America will be ecstatic. My next step would be to tell my people that our struggle with Israel is over. Even the palestinians themselves have thrown the towel. Why should I continue this facade?
I am now ready to ask the U.S. for a massive and credible amount of Fiancial Aid to help my nation. My country is the closest Arab nation to Europe. My second city, Aleppo, is a 30 minute drive from what could be an EU border in 10 years. Once they see their standards of living rise appreciably, my nation's facination with the slogans and empty promises of Arabism will soon dissapear as the old souqs are back to the old days of bustling business. My Tourism will skyrocket. My nation's GDP (both in PPP and nominal measure) will jump.

Abu Arab, I think our country has seen and heard enough nonsense. It is time to call the old games off! I have had enough

 
At 11/17/2005 04:00:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

Israel's agenda does play many tricks in the middle east you must admit Ehsani2.

However I know where you are coming from, I hate the endless blame on Israel for our own problems and the lack of effort to actually do something about it. Some good friends of mine still believe the Mossad did 9/11 and the holocoust never happened etc etc A disgrace!

But Israel is an agressor and you better believe they are tending to what they believe their interests are in Iraq. And Syria and Lebanon. We are in a state of war after-all.

 
At 11/17/2005 04:30:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

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At 11/17/2005 04:33:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

Ehsani2--wow talk about throwing the towel!!

First of all it does not fly in the face of common logic for the US to support Israel. As an American, I am insulted by such a statement.

Befriending Israel and giving unlimited support to its policies has been the single most DISASTEROUS policy my nation's leaders have ever undertaken. Not only does it hurt us economically to give $2 billion/year to Israel--but this support has spawned the jihadis as we know them!! Now they are past Israel/Palestine and cannot be easily stopped. But it is America who lit the fuse. American has already paid with 9/11 and my citizens have to pay with animosity from the entire world--from Brazil to the Middle East to Europe.

But you say forget the past and don't argue with reality and protect our own interests. Well to refute each of your points:

1. Embassies don't mean a single thing. Ask Jimmy Carter about his experience with the Tehren Embassy and the results. (Carter not re-elected and Iran becomes theocracy) It would not take much to kick the Americans out of Baghdad too and i'll bet the insurgents are already promising and planning to do so.

2. I have cultivated friendly relations with Turkey, who has a strongly anti-American people. Let us remember the Turks refused American troops in their land due to popular will. Once the American Army leaves (which today the most Hawkish Democrat has called for exactly that in 1 year time) I will have a friendly government in Iraq to my east.

3. Based on 1 and 2 above, I will stick with my policies and wait out the Bush neo-con fiasco. They may very well be gone in large part from the region is 3 years. What remains are a people ever-stridently Anti-American.

You will immediatly send a battallion to Iraq---what? huh? Lets come back to reality where such would never ever happen. If it did, America would conisder it an invasion and proceed to attack and occupy Syria.

The palestinians have not thrown any towel--ask Hamas and ask Zaharia Zubeideh of Al-Aqsa Brigades. Ask Marwan Barghouti. They will never do such a thing. And any patriotic Syrian would never give up the Golan, yet Israel isn't giving it back so you have a conflict there. So the struggle is not over until Israel given back OCCUPIED territory.

Aleppo is a 1 hour 30 min from an EU border unless you are driving some kind of a Ferrari on steroids. Thats no problem, we had good relations with Europe before the Harirri affair and we will have good relations again.

And if you are relying on Americans to give massive help to Syria you are mistaken. It would take years to undue the hostility to Syria by American Senators. They would expect Syria give up the Golan for one--which Syrians will not do.

Basically, they would expect Syria to get down on all four legs and bark like a dog when American ordered--which it seems you are more than willing to do.

I love your economic analyisis, but where is your Syrian patriotism?? Under your leadership our country would be occupied by America or begging for its help--all for the mere promise of economic relief. It is a promise, a hope and absolutely no certainty and I see no reason why economic relief cannot take place more easily under our pre-Harirri path. Yes I realize the Harriri affair is a major monkey wrench, but not insurmountable.

 
At 11/17/2005 05:01:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

You keep on the Patriotism going. You keep on the false dreams of defeating Israel and taking back the Golan. You keep on resisting doing business with the world's economic and military superower. You keep the Unemployment rate of your country heading higher into uncharted territories. You keep dreaming of Carter and the insurgents defeating America. As for me I will look in the mirror and admit that it "A'int working" the way it is now. I "offer" the Americans help in Iraq, not "invade". I live once. I want my people to enjoy a high standard of living during their only visit to planet earth. Am I less honorable and patriotic than you because I "threw the towel". I believe in cutting my losses. I have had enough of lying to my people that we will somehow prevail. You stay patriotic and best of luck with your Jihad

 
At 11/17/2005 05:27:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Ehsani, you're right to point out that the foreigners are numerically insignificant, but they are politically significant. Most of the suicide bombers are foreigners. And it these those suicide bombers who are pushing for civil war.

Abu Arab, before commenting on a country where you never lived, I would like to point out that there are one million people from Asian background in France, and they don't burn cars and shout 'buddha akbar'. Second of all, the main problem of the Arabs is that they refuse to learn the French culture. I've seen so many third generation Arab in France who can barely speak the French language. Under these conditions, it is normal that they don't find a job and are excluded from the society. Racisim exist but is not very important in France. The exclusion from the Arabs comes from them and their mixed feelings of hatred and jealousy against everything that's not Arab. And from what I read, you're as jingoistic as them.

 
At 11/17/2005 05:30:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

By 'integrate', Abu Arab means 'ethnically or culturally cleansed', something that is very consistend with his fascist ideology also known as 'Arab nationalism'.

 
At 11/17/2005 05:36:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Ausama, you got it right,


Abu Arab you say that "Israel security is on the top of the wolrd agenda, including the UN.
"

It's also on top of the agenda of Hezbollah and most Arab countries. They must be part of the zionist conspiracy.

 
At 11/17/2005 05:43:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

Ehsani2

Don't go implying I am on some kind of "Jihad".

Just because you could not respond to my arguments with anything but your own personal inclinations with no substance gives you no right to throw in that cheap shot in the end. Really I expected better from you.

For the record:

The golan will be taken back. It was nearly back with the elder Assad just a few years ago. Are you blind to that? Are you blind that there are UN resolutions demanding Israel give back our land? And we know how the US suddenly loves UN resolutions so its just a matter of time. You go ski on the Israeli side of Golan because it is in your best interests, while I will endure for a while yet I am sure in my lifetime I will be snowboarding down Syrian mountains in the Syrian Golan.

I fear the insurgents will defeat American everyday and have nightmares not dreams about it. Yet I think I am astute enough to realize America created these same insurgents we are fighting and it is only a matter of time before America pulls out of Iraq and the insurgents will claim victory. Don't turn me into an insurgent-supporter because of that. Thats Bush/Cheney level thinking.

Your offer of "help" in Iraq would be refused and interpreted as a straight invasion by the US. Thats exactly my point and what you just don't seem to get: America will not interpret anything in Syria's favor--they would say its an invasion just because they can. They will not help you and thats why I say you simply don't live in reality. I fear you just don't understand American politics.

Are you less patriotic for throwing the towel? For not realizing we are in a struggle against Israel? Well thats a matter of opinion, but let me give you a hint to mine:

Was Petain less patriotic for "throwing the towel" and helping create Vichy France because obviously Nazi Germany was entrenched in France and its in France's best interest to collaberate with them.

Or maybe some guy named Nelson Mandela was a fool for resisting and struggling until the injustice called Arpatheid was undone. Just like Syrians struggle to get back the Golan. Just like Palestinians struggle to have their own state.

Our struggle against Israel injustly taking our land is a righteous struggle just like the struggle against Apartheid and the struggle against Nazism. Yes not in magnitude of course, but it is an injustice nonetheless and therefore in principle I will compare them.

But I am glad to note public opnion is firmly on my side as you are the first Syrian I have met online or in the 'real world' that wants to give up on the Golan and lay down for Israel.

Well there is Farid Ghadry, but I have not had the 'honor' of meeting him just yet.

 
At 11/17/2005 05:57:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

The U.S. Has a strategic long term plan for the region.
The U.S. is biased towards Israel
The U.S. will undermine and nation that stands against its interests.
The U.S. policy makers are controlled by a powerful Jewish Lobby.
The U.S is not fair in the way it treats Arabs.
The U.S. is only interested in itself and the state of Israel.
The U.S. invaded Iraq to secure the oil field and not to promote democracy.
The U.S. controls the U.N. and is pushing Mehlis's agenda.
The U.S. is targetting Syria because it wants it carry out its program in the region.
The U.S wants to divide the Arabs into Sunnis, Shias and Kurds.
The U.S. and Israel's Mossad acoordinate on all security and military matters.
The U.S. is EVIL.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? WHAT IS YOUR CONCRETE PLAN BESIDES REPEATING THE SAME LIST OVER AND OVER?

You want to fight with what? Do you a counter plan to theirs? Is it working? Are you better off now than since 1948 when you declared war against the creation of Israel? Are you better off now since Nasser and the Baathists offered their brand of resistence and patriotism? Are you better off since the brilliant jihadists decided to go after the Devil on their own turf? Are you better off with Sharia and Islam as the next alternative brand of resistence? Are you financially capable of even delivering food to the vast majority of your people before you go on a scud and Mig shopping spree?

FOR GODSAKE, CUT IT OUT! STOP THE BLAME GAME! Of course everything listed above is right. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN BESIDES EMPTY SLOGANS AND UNREALISTIC PLANS AND LIES. I offered you my plan. Struggles are won with people who believe in the cause and who are capable of delivering to the cause.
My interest is the economic well being of my nation. This is it. The past mistakes of Palestinians and Arab politians are not to be paid for by our current population and citizens . We owe them a better education, a better standard of living. They will soon leave planet earth having heard nothing but the same calls for sacrifice, honor and patriotism. You are no Jihadi! Enjoyed the Discussion

 
At 11/17/2005 06:11:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

EHSANI2 said:
"You keep on the false dreams of defeating Israel and taking back the Golan".

This is not about, and should not be about defeating Israel or other states in the region. This is about restoring property rights. It is hard for you to understand that. You may have not owned land for generation and lost it. Jews did, so as Golani's. I tell you from my own experience, that land lost and taken away from you is like your child lost or taken away from you. And it hurts to see those aggressors using it and making a living of it and never pay you anything ever. Machiavelli, understood how important this is. Although he advocated just about anything evil is permissible and possible against opponents, the one thing he stated that should not be done to your opponent, is to take his land. Shah Pahlavi did not heed this, and the Mullah got after and rid of him. Assad and his Alawites did not heed this either and despite repeated requests to correct this, they ignored Machiavellian rule number one.

As to Israel being a supper power and a dream to fight it. Some news for you, I have better technologies and more potent than the Israeli or American got. if fact Israeli stole through sophisticated espionage all my technologies. I learned about Israeli espionage activities in America long before the CIA and other learned about it and discovered means and methods of Mossad. Stole it, no problem, got newer and better one and so as the Iranians. Check my site www.orontes.net

Plans developed by SSPRS estimates, it will take 3 hours to liberate the Golan Heights from the Israeli and the front army is hot-pants (pink and Black) Tuxedos wearing girls, holding trays of Crystals. Please, don’t tell me they will use Nukes, I know the answer for that, but would not tell it to you, will just refer you to the Christian Book of Revelation and say, they probably will, and Two Third of this planet will suffer, according to the Holy Book, one of the very few if not the only book that is in fact inspired and not faked by Amen-Marduk. (notably it’s writer is also the only one we have evidence on his existence )

Now you know why the world’s is in desperate attempt to keep Bashar and his Baath in power for another 40 years. But I know something the moron’s of the world don’t. I know for a fact that Assad’s and his Alawites are devout Syrian Nationalists (forget about that Arab Nationalism crap, that is just for domestic consumption). They will never sell out Syria and Syria’s interests to no one. Morons that have hopped and are hopping to get them to do just that are banging their empty head on a solid wall made up of steel and concrete.

It pays to be a strategist. You just watch dummies do your work, inch by inch.
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. AND PEACE IS THE BEST PLAN. LIVING WITHOUT WALLS IS SSPRS PREFERRED PLAN FOR THE MIDDLE EAST FUTURE.

 
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At 11/17/2005 07:28:00 PM, Blogger Nafdik said...

Note that the Ehsani plan of helping the US in Iraq was the plan of our Eternal Leader in the last Iraqi war.

For that we got control over Lebanon Alshaqiq.

 
At 11/17/2005 08:23:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

That is exactly right. Had junior done the same as senior.......oh well

 
At 11/17/2005 08:28:00 PM, Blogger Yabroud said...

The US should do something about the reactionary regime in Saudi Arabia before anything else. It is the Saudi Regime that is the real Evil of the world. Just read this recent story that took place in Saudi Arabia. This is one tiny story that gives an example of the US allies in the region.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20051114-015138-3548r.htm

 
At 11/17/2005 09:58:00 PM, Blogger Hadad said...

Rise up, o people of Syria, to reclaim your right to live in dignity and freedom.

Long live Syria!

 
At 11/17/2005 11:16:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

I do not know where some writers are living ,is,nt the US who was calling after the fall of Baghdad for (GO LEFT POLICY)to invade Syria and if that is the case does,nt Syria have the right to defend itself by making the American buisy in Iraq,about the Golan ther is a treaty between Syria and Israel and Syria houners it,s obligation thinking that with a treaty well hounerd by Syria Israel will recognise that a peace treaty with Syria will be in it,s interest,but i think Syria is proven wrong ,the only languege Israel understand is force ,that was proven in south Lebanon which Israel leftunder fire as they did from Gazza so Syria should ignite the Golan Hights and le us remember that Israel is still there because the arab /Israeli wars were never long enough to affect the Israeli economy and that should change ,some people asked Bashar to his father,s deeds and help the American ,ther is a dfference ,when syria sided with the US to liberate Kuwait it was to liberate not to occupy an arab country ,If the US and president Bush want to win in Iraq they should change their policy and promise Syria economic assistant and the return of the full Golan Hights ,in reurn Syria will withdrow it,s troops from the Golan and help the American in Iraq especialy that people in congress are asking to leave Iraq and about 57% of american are weary of thee president leadership,i know that Syria does not have a majer rule in Iraq,s insurgency but i hope Syria will get the credit when the Americans leave.

 
At 11/18/2005 01:21:00 AM, Blogger Nafdik said...

I agree with Norman that Israel only understands the language of force.

Too bad that our beloved leaders have focused their military strategy on protecting their palaces against us. So we are left helpless when Israeli planes fly over our country.

 
At 11/18/2005 04:46:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

Vox,

Small correction, Mount Lebanon had some "sort" of autonomy during the Ottoman Empire, not today's geographical Lebanon. I am not here to argue whether Lebanon should or shouldn’t be part of Syria. Because the simple fact is: Lebanon is an independent country!!! Sure it was part of greater Syria but so was half or Iraq, quarter of Turkey etc. etc. i don’t see too many sane Syrians calling for Mosul to return to Syria. I also don’t believe Hafez Al Assad wanted to make Lebanon part of Syria. Control for as long as possible yes, annex NO.

Now back to your earlier argument.

“I partially agree with Shamee27. A devout Muslim and a Lebanese Christian (secular or not) have nothing in common, but there's little difference between a really secular Syrian and a secular Lebanese. The only thing is that there's not a lot of secular Syrians and Lebanese, which means that there's a lot of differences between Syria and Lebanon.”

You seem to be over looking a glaring contradiction here. If what you say is correct then a Muslim Lebanese has more in common with a Syrian Muslim than his Christian countryman and vice-versa, so in a strange way your argument supports the notion that the citizens of both countries share the same ideology and hence the same…well a lot. Your attempt to be fair and bias is noted but you don’t have to read too deep between the lines to see that you view things through Christians vs. Muslims eyes, where you feel Christians are better (secular or not). Which puts you on the “fundamentalist” camp, whether you view yourself as secular or not.

I tend to believe that a devout Syrian Christian shares more with a devout Lebanese Muslim than you would like to believe. They share a lot of the same habits, language, food, they even hate each other’s religion with the same passion. And I truly believe that Lebanon and Syria are as close as any two countries can come. We only need to remind some of the Syrian nationalists that they are really TWO countries.

Even though the reality on the ground dictates that religion is a great divider, internally and externally. We need to govern the two countries, by force if needed, on the basis of equality.

 
At 11/18/2005 05:28:00 AM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

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At 11/18/2005 06:20:00 AM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

Aussama,
Thank you again, many people need to read our history carefully.

At least syrians read alot of the region's history at school.

I would like to point out that Mr. Fouad Saniora, while replying to Assad's speech, he said, (Long live French Culture, Long live French Civilization) ??

In return, we should expect some French officials to say long live Arab culture???

 
At 11/18/2005 08:30:00 AM, Blogger Karfun said...

--> Abu Arab

In return they would say correctly:
Long Live Lebanese Culture.

By the way, Sanioras style was fine and polite, so he deserve and will get an answer from civilisated president.

God bless Lebanon and its people.

 
At 11/18/2005 10:12:00 AM, Blogger Nafdik said...

In response to Abu Arab, you seem to be saying that there are 2 camps:

- Jihadis
- Pro West

You forgot that there are 2 more camps:

- Nationalist:
Which itself can be devided into:
a) Arabist
b) Regionalist (Souria Alkoubra)
c) Statist (for lack of a better term)
- Humanist
Meaning less emphasis on ideology of groups and more on the well being of individual citizens

The Nationalist has been tested and tarnished by our history in the last 30 years, so we seem now split between Jihadist which is a recepie for a lot of pain for a long time and the liberal humanists.

Unfortunately the Jihadists (and I include in those christain groups like the Lebanese Forces) are winning today.

 
At 11/18/2005 10:21:00 AM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

NAFDIK,

please don't make assumptions, i did not say anything like that,

I mean, those who have influance and power now are Jihadists & the Wests.

 
At 11/18/2005 11:48:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Where the hell did all of these new posters come from?

As for Karfun, at one time, you sounded like me, but then, you changed!

I do not discuss the Assad Regime any more. It seems to me that the US is going to save it. I need to go back to do more important things than to worry about the stupid Syrian people, their ugly regime, and their stupid so called opposition!

Oppositions still want to live in the past so called Arab "glory", and want to fight the "bad" imperilaism and Zionism. Stupid people deserve stupid and retarded regimes such as the Assad's one.

JAM

 
At 11/18/2005 11:57:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 11/18/2005 12:01:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

JAM,
You can not give up at this crucial time. Because read the next comment to
Abu Arab:
He said: "I mean, those who have influence and power now are Jihadists & the West’s".

That is crappy and superficial statement. Neither are in control and both at loggerhead at each others. Already signs of despaire is showing on both, not to mention failure. They are exhausted and both have no place to go except go home. They are both dead ender.

The only way one of them can progress is to take the Nationalists and the oppositions agenda and platform. Otherwise they will soon go home to the West and Arabia.

 
At 11/18/2005 12:07:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

"Those who have influence and power now are jihadists and the west".

What are you talking about?

Jihadists have power?
Power to do what? Live underground and bomb? Send men and women to heaven through martydom? Power to terrorize their population unless everyone follows their agenda?

Jihadists have influence?
Their only influence was to make it easier for America to do whatever it wishes under the banner of "war on terror". The brilliant Jihadi strategists made sure their attacks on the great satan was the easiest way for America to come into the region.

When an entity has power and influence, one has to examine its financial and economic resources. One has to examine its ability to execute its agenda effectively.

Jihadists have the poewer and influence?

CUT IT OUT

 
At 11/18/2005 12:39:00 PM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

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At 11/18/2005 12:49:00 PM, Blogger BP said...

Abu Arab.............your name tells who you are.............
a wishful thinker.

What about the rumors that Asef already is the number one, his hands in the kings neck? This would explain the speech better.

I agree with JAM, we waste our time here at least for the benefit of Mister Landis. As long as I live very good in the west why should I care about people like "Abu Arab", may all your glorious wishes come true.

VIVE LA FRANCE!!!!!

 
At 11/18/2005 12:56:00 PM, Blogger BP said...

The bloodthirsty jehadis killed more innocent Arabs than the United States of America and the United Kingdom. All this in the name of Allah. Well done.

 
At 11/18/2005 12:57:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

No wonder your 200,000,000 people are in the predicement they are in.

 
At 11/18/2005 01:03:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Abu Arab. You did not comment on my observation on the effect of Jihad aganist the Satan. Did you support or agree with their strike against the Evil Americans?

 
At 11/18/2005 01:09:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Come to think of it, if they have been so effective and influential, why don't you join them? Why don't you help the cause of this "umma" ? You seem to think it is the only way to our salvation. A person with your conviction is doing his people and cause a disservice by not becoming more involved than merely promoting the cause on a computer screen. What a fraud!

 
At 11/18/2005 01:25:00 PM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

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At 11/18/2005 01:27:00 PM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims.

 
At 11/18/2005 01:42:00 PM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

ForFreedomOfExpression said...

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims.


Oh please. First, what is your definition of terrorism??? is it the same nebulous definition that the US-Israel use to describe any activity they don't like? such as resistance against occupation?

Second, shouldn't bombing innoncent civilians be considered terrorism? what about US bombings in Iraq, or Israeli bombings of Palestinians homes, daily...

 
At 11/18/2005 01:50:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Forfreedomofexpression,

If you believe in what you said, please explain why yu think that is. Why do you think almost all terrorists are muslims?

 
At 11/18/2005 02:02:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

- The dominant role of the Baath party needs to be reduced to allow the real oppositions groups to participate in a program of transition to a democratic and free society to facilitate a free and fair election “even to the presidency itself”.

2- Syria now is in uncharted territory, Mr. Assad needs to show the county that he is on the helm of the job at this difficult time. He needs to act and remove any elements opposing the needs for institutional reform.

3- Abolishing Decree No. 51 “state of emergency”, in which Mr Assad himself admitted that mistake and abuse were made with Decree No.51. He must reinforce the independence of the judiciary