Friday, December 23, 2005

"Stand Up, Sit Down, Shut Up," Reviewed by Biedermann

Ferry Biedermann of the FT has an interesting review of the new nationalist play now on in Damascus. I will be posting again soon. I am now in NYC visiting friends and will be back in DC soon to spend the holidays with my brothers and parents and Manar's aunt and cousins who will all be there.

I spoke at the Stimpson Foundation with David Ignatius about Syria the other day and a good cross-section of the floura and fauna of interested DC turned up. Emile el-Hokayem organized it and Ellen Laipson, the director moderated. It was fun. I spoke about the Lebanon-Syria relationship and the personal contest between the Hariri-Junblat-Khaddam-Kanaan group and President Asad's family and allies since 2000.

David Ignatius of the Post spoke about how Syria is not "ripe" for dramatic change and how the US will have to develop a more nuanced strategy over the next years in order to encourage reform. (Here is the article by Biedermann.)


Syrian play fires nationalist passions
By Ferry Biedermann in Damascus
Published: December 22 2005 02:00 | Last updated: December 22 2005 02:00

But is it art? Stand Up, Sit Down, Shut Up, a play now on a triumphant run in downtown Damascus, is all about stoking the fires of Syrian nationalism.


For a finale the actors trot on to the stage carrying the country's flag and, with hands on their hearts, burst into the national anthem, topping off a two-hour tirade against Syria's perceived enemies.

"We are trying to deploy art for national unity," explains Zuheir Abdul Karim, the play's director and main actor, from the stage of the rickety Ramita theatre, where he has counted President Bashar al-Assad and his wife Asma among the audience.

The director says he mounted the play to help counter what he calls "external conspiracies and pressures" against his country. Syrians are keenly aware of such external pressures these days.

The United Nations investigation into the murder of Rafiq Hariri, former Lebanese prime minister, was last week extended for at least another six months. The outgoing chief investigator, Detlev Mehlis, has for the first time openly said he thinks Syrian authorities are behind the killing and the Security Council is demanding full Syrian co-operation in the probe.

In the tradition of the ruling Ba'ath party, the government has reacted by closing ranks and mobilising the people with a mix of nationalist slogans, pan-Arab clichés and broadsides against designated external enemies - among whom they count their Lebanese neighbours and, of course, Mr Mehlis.

For good measure, internal dissent is also being stifled. In recent months dissidents have met increasing intimidation and, in at least one case, have been arrested. Portraits of the president have reappeared along highways and on buildings, an echo of the days of his father, Hafez al-Assad, who was omnipresent.

Posters parrot a defiant excerpt from a recent speech: "Syria will not bend. We only bend for God."

"Your report does not amount to one penny, oh Mehlis," goes a line in a song in the play.

And in the performance Mr Abdul Karim's character claims that the Mehlis report to the UN is "politicised and written a year ago" as part of a campaign against Syria, driven by the US and its ally, Israel. Some Syrian intellectuals say they abhor the play and what it stands for. "First of all, it is a bad play. It is propaganda that uses the lowest forms of popular entertainment," says dissident writer Yassin Haj Saleh, who describes it as part of a campaign to rally the people behind the government.

The real vitriol in this campaign is often reserved for the Lebanese, who are variously portrayed as ungrateful, traitorous, craven and licentious.

After Hariri's murder in February the Lebanese took to the streets to demand an end to Syrian control over their country. In May the Syrians withdrew their troops, after a military presence of nearly 30 years.

"It came as a complete surprise to us," says Mr Abdul Karim, who maintains the play reflects popular sentiment in Syria that the Lebanese are attacking his country. "We name the people who are insulting us."

The names include Fouad Siniora, Lebanon's prime minister who has already been called a "slave of a slave" by President Assad, and Druze leader Walid Jumblatt.

One politician no longer named is Gebran Tueni, a member of parliament and prominent journalist, who was killed this month together with three others when his car was blown up by a roadside bomb in a suburb of Beirut. He was the fifth anti-Syrian figure to be assassinated since the murder of Hariri and the third to die in such an attack.

"Gebran Tueni, oh no, [he is not named] any more because he is dead," says Mr Abdul Karim.

Mr Haj Saleh, the dissident writer, says the play is "not innocent" even though Mr Abdul Karim denies it amounts to incitement.

"It is comedy, the people laugh. The president really enjoyed it," the director asserts.

One of the theatregoers, a young pharmacist, said he was aware of all the trouble the country was in. "It is good to be able to laugh at it, for once." But an older woman said she knew very little about politics. "I just came because I heard the president and his wife also saw it."

Mr Abdul Karim echoes her view.

"We are theatre people, we don't engage in politics. We just believe what [President] al-Assad tells us."

130 Comments:

At Friday, December 23, 2005, Leila said...

I'm sorry to see you leave Syria, actually. It's been a cool year with you reporting from front row seats. And what a difference a year makes - last year you were some obscure history professor from Oklahoma, and this year you're well-known on the internet. Congrats.

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, Ghassan said...

Welcome back Josh! Look forward to your posts under no pressure from the Syrian regime.

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, ThePolemicist said...

Welcome back to the US. FYI, it's the Stimson Center, not the "Stimpson Foundation." We'll just blame it on the jetlag.

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, Ausamaa said...

Nice to see you back Josh, and we will be looking forward to your "unbiased" and "free" opinion now that you are away and safe and "under no pressure" from the Syrian "regime" as one post wished !!!

As to FT article, my only comment is : did anyone expect Syria to roll over and play dead?? Of course the government will utelise all the tools to have the people behind it in this confrontation.

An interesting message from the Syrian media came on Thursday: "Syria will NOT stand by silent in the face of the attacks by certain voices", meaning the Lebanese politicians and the associated media channels.It looks as if Syria has regained balance and decided to actively promote its case and discridit local oppononts.

Wonder what that means in this new chapter where the tide seems to have changed for the opportunistic, naive and amateure Harriri-Junblat group?

Anyway, it seems that a new era is downing on the whole "confront Syria" issue. We will see.

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, Innocent_Criminal said...

So many here love conspiracy theories. and think that josh was under pressure to write in a certain tone. i on the other hand, believe they were his own words and were unbiased and free. but i guess time will prove one of us right. except if we start hearing the "you are getting paid" crap that we hear on some lebanese blogs.

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, raf* said...

dear josh,

the article by ferry biederman is sadly rather bad on a number of accounts:

1 - there is much more to the play than mere "foreigner bashing". it is based on the original script of a play very critical of the internal syrian/arab situation, one that doesn't pull no punches in laying the responsibility (& thus blame) squarely on the steps of the syrian intellectuals. the whole anti-mehlis/lebanon/etc. part was added. i kind of wonder if ms. biedermann has actually seen it herself.

2 - her "local color sources" give off the impression that ms. biedermann doesn't know too many people in damascus. given how many damascenes have seen the play & how much it is the talk of the town, i would've expected a deeper discussion of the play's reception and how it mirrors the current mood - staunch defense against any & all (perceived) threats from the outside, yet scathing criticism of the regime & its zu'amaa on the inside.

3 - ms. biedermann seems to not have been to syria in the 80s, 90s, or even the early 21st century: one of the first, obvious impressions the visitor of today gets is that (compared to the situation a few years, or even months ago) there are next to no pictures of the president around, but the city (and, YES, the highways & bridges as well) are plastered with FLAGS, and posters of the syrian flag with such non-ba'thii and non-assadi slogans like "may god protect you, oh damascus" (hamiik allah ya al-sham).

what the syrian regime's p.r. machine has managed to pull off is no less than the shift from personality cult to patriotism. and it works. even my most critical friends in damascus are happy to sign on to the flag, saying "finally, the country is no longer represented by a person, but by its rightful symbol, the national flag."

ferry biedermann has written much, much better pieces in/from/about iraq (in www.salon.com, for example). this one looks as if in syria she'd just stepped off the boat.

dear josh - what did YOU think of the play? i assume you've seen it, no?

cheers,

--raf*

www.aqoul.com

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, O.D.M said...

Welcome back to the States Proff. Landis.

I hope we can sit down and have coffee when you are in Washington D.C, where I live.

I have a question to you and other readers, how can I find out what is happening in D.C that involves Syria? Like public engagements, seminars and events (like think tank ones). If you know any happening during the coming months, please let me know.

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, Ausamaa said...

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At Friday, December 23, 2005, Ausamaa said...

to O.D.M. regarding events in DC...

What the heck you want to attend those for? You will have fits no matter what your political leanings are..

You are better off sticking to the internet sites; SCIS, counterpunch, tompaine,earlywarning, the truthseeker AND espicially the Washington Instite and Across the Bay if you have stomach for royally biased crap.

Incidently, has anyone noticed how silent, or rather mute,the Israeli press has been over the whole course of events in Lebanon since just before the assasination of the late Harriri??? Both about the assisinations and about the events that followed. None of the serious "usual" intelligence leaks, no analysis, virtyually no nothing. Not habitual of someone who takes anything happening in the area as a "personal matter". And I do not believe this is out of respect to a previously stated US wish that Israel stays away from this. Because there is always ISRAEL and then there is the Israeli PRESS who never see eye to eye except when it gets down to serious military and security issues. Just a thought!

On a final note, and to be frank with you, stick with Josh's site and let him do the sorting for you. He has shown himself to informed, balanced and most important of all, he has both a "feel" and "feelings" for the subject he deals with....

 
At Friday, December 23, 2005, hummbumm said...

How nice that Tueni is no longer named now that he is dead. I guess if Jumblatt is killed or Saniora, then those names will be omitted. Funny how I don't see the humour, but i guess if you are safe in damascus rather than being picked off in Beirut, it's a lot funnier...

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

((((((((((((((((( ." But an older woman said she knew very little about politics. "I just came because I heard the president and his wife also saw it."

Mr Abdul Karim echoes her view.

"We are theatre people, we don't engage in politics. We just believe what [President] al-Assad tells us."
))))))))))))))))


I find it terribly incomprehensible that a History professor, some one who should have known the characteristics of all societies that lived under dictatorships at one time or another, and how the praise of the dictator is something any one would precede his/her talks with if at any time a political subject is open, tries to ignore this simple fact and present to th eworld a society in Syria in "love" with the "young" dictator that he calls president. I find it awsome that Dr. Joshua continues to search all articles printed anywhere to stress to the world how the Syrian people "love" this dictator he calls President Bashar Assad as if he does not really know that the vast majority of people really and deeply hate him and his father, and his regime!

Yet, that is what Mr. Joshua wants tthe world to see about Syria; a people in love with Bashar Assad.

Shame!


JAM

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

JAM I think you don't know what you are talking about. When was the last time you were in the country anyway?

When I was there in the summer, from what I could tell most people truly trust Bashar. I was even talking to a outspoken Kurdish man talking about change and kurdish rights, yet he said Bashar was still his salvagtion and only hope. Its a bit disconcerting how much people trust in one man.

Even when Hafez died I remember people genuinely sad.

And this kind of attitude is not limited to dictatorships. Here in the US, ask people not on the east or west coasts and they will probaly say they just love and trust President Bush. Britney Spears had this famous quote in 2003 that shows the attitude of many people:

SPEARS: Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision he makes and should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens.

CARLSON: Do you trust this president?

SPEARS: Yes, I do.

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

""" Even when Hafez died I remember people genuinely sad.
"""


Hahahaha

You just answered yourself. I have no need to dispute your stupid claims.

JAM

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Do we all not remember this incidence that took place at the deat of the criminal Hafez Assad in 2000?

"""A military court has sentenced a Lebanese man to one year in prison for saying the late Syrian dictator Hafez Assad's death was a cause for celebration. Salah Noureddine was arrested shortly after Assad's June 10 death for comments he made to friends and relatives. Lebanese laws, dictated by a more powerful neighbor, forbid defamation of Arab leaders or attempts to harm Lebanon's relations "with brotherly and friendly countries," the court found. "



Do we not remember young Syrians taken in Sahnaya to prison for insulting the Statue of Hafez Assad? 3 years in jails before they were released.

You must be "genuinely" crazy, EC. tell us about your so called Engineering Change!


JAM

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

I do not dispute that there are people that didn't like Hafez and there are isolated incidents of people being outspoken about it. The guy was a dctator wha do you expect?

But I do remember most (key word is most) people being sad at the time of his death. He was all some people had known for so many years.

And I see you didn't answer about the last time you were in the country. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I will guess its been many years and that does hurt your credibility when talking about the pulse of the people.

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Innocent_Criminal said...

JAM,

Your state of denial is quiet impressive. what are the incidents that you mentioned have to do with all the tea in china or how to make butter chicken? note that i am not even contesting these incident even though i never heard of it, they might have very well happened!!! but the fact of the matter is that people were genuinely sad by Hafez's death. I know because i was there, i was studying in Beirut at the time and went to photograph the funeral in B&W. And though there were organized crowds, there were tons and tons of regular people in grieve so lie to yourself all you like but this is reality. and if you don’t accept that people might have other opinions then you don’t really deserve democracy.

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I am inside the country.

2nd- one year in prison for a Lebanese saying something about the death of the dictator, and in Lebanon. What do you expect people to behave when they are faced with such awful laws? People were genuinely happy at his death. People were angry at the comedy of the inheritance of Syria and its people by a so called "parliament". People hated, and still hate his guts. You must be an Alawi close to him to be saying that people were "genunely" sad. No one was sad except those beneficiaries of the regime who are no "most" Syrians, but the few corrupts.


One year in Jail for a Lebanese because he expressed happiness of the death of the dictator, and you think people were "genuinely" sad? You are a disgarce to human logic and human feelings!


JAM

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

((( and if you don’t accept that people might have other opinions then you don’t really deserve democracy.

)))


Who is denying what?

Syrian prisons testify to the state of affairs in Syria. The thousands upon thousands of Syrian deaths at the hands of the regime testify to the criminality of the regime, and your "democratic" speach.. We don't deserve democracy, and you deserve to stay in power? Tell me why you deserve to stay in power? What devine right did you inherit to decide who "deserve" democracy, and who does not?


JAM

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Democracy is not to be deserved. It is a right to all mankind.

Before your hero, the late dictator of Syria came to power through the military, did you have the same logic back then, asking him to accept the old status quo, and wait until Syrians "deserved" democracy? Or tell us, for God's sake, what kind of slogans and logic did your hero use to change that previous political regime by force, not accepting to await the deserving of democracy before he implemented his coup d'etat and appointed himself and his cronies the rulers of Syria, and now they say that they are the only choice because "people do not deserve democracy"? Why didn't they accept to wait back then then?


You are ridiculous when you think that you alone deserve power, and the people have to wait while they develop into "deserving" democracy, for such logic means only that who ever succeeds by force is the one who "deserves" to rule, but remember that things might change for you, and you might become tomorrow the underclass and others might tell you that you do not "deserve" democracy.

JAM

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Not to forget that Baath overthrew a democratic regime in Syria in March 8th, 1963.

JAM

 
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At Saturday, December 24, 2005, adonis syria said...

Why does bashar fear the law of the ballot box knowing the potential support of 2 or 3 millions "baathists" (=9 millions syrians if we include their children=50 % of the syrian population).
The syrians are fickle and the dictators are aware of this fact.This dual personality that damaged the syrian people in his dignity is the result of 40 years of state terrorism.

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, patriot2sy said...

I would like to add 2 comments about this discussion:
1. It is true that after the death of president Hafez Assad, a proportion of Syrians were sad. We don’t know this exact proportion, but most likely, it was small, BUT greatly inflated in media, and that gave the impression that people were generally sad.
2. Now, more important, I think, is that the general impression most Syrians had, and which was wrongly interpreted as sadness, was anxiety, and fear from the unknown coming future. Some people talked about civil war, about Riffat coming back, and taking control. Others talked about Israel attacking Syria, etc…
So when Bashar took over in a smoothly peaceful way. This feeling of anxiety was relieved somehow. And, again this may have been interpreted as happiness and support to the young president, and indeed, this was the general impression people got at that time.

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, ActiveListener said...

I am sure a lot of people did feel a genuine surge of sadness when Hafez died. Just as millions of Chinese sobbed at the death of Mao and even Russians when Stalin died. And the same emotions will no doubt well up in North Koreans when their "beloved leader" passes on.

What else can they think and feel when they are told the "father" of their beloved nation has died. Someone who has used state terrorism and personality cult lies to create the sense that everything around them - from jobs, infrastrucure and law and order to even a sense of national dignity and worth vis-a-vis "the enemy" - is given to them by courtesy of one person.

If you want to witness the power and scale of this syndrome ask ANY mainland Chinese person about the horrible things that happened to members of their family under the cultural revolution or look at the clear and stomach-churning story of Mao revealed in his new biography (banned in China).

Then look at how the Chinese still accept Mao as a Godlike figure, his face large on every banknote and millions of other offical daily reminders, because ....well, think it through for yourself, EngineeringChange and Innocent Criminal.

Patriot2sy has also made a good and relevant comment.

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I really do get mad when Assad is compared with Stalin, Mao, Hitler, or any other such dictator. Assad can not be compared to such men who, despite their evil deeds, were able to raise their nations to grand status! Assad can only be compared to Mobouto of Zair, Duvalier, and not even to Saddam Hussein.

Despite 40 years of total "stability" in Syria since his so called "correctionist" movement, and despite the many billions in aids from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Region to maintain this evil dictator, Syria became at the bottom of nations, and I defy anyone to name one single accomplishment of this evil dictator.

And no... The Syrian people, when they trust you, tell you how much they hate this dictator. Despite it all, the Syrian spirit has not died. Syrians know that they are governed by thugs, and they hate them as much as you could imagine!


JAM

 
At Saturday, December 24, 2005, ActiveListener said...

Yes, JAM, you're right.

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, DamasceneBlood said...

JAM

"I am inside the country"

LOL, and I'm the king of England...

JAM, you are either a lame liar or just crazy, or as you accuse others, low-level Mukhabarat.

Why? If you are inside Syria, and you claim that Syria is oppressive and you cannot say whatever you can, then you should've been arrested by now, no?

Yes, we are ruled by a minority of thugs, mostly. But what about Lebanon? they are ruled by multiple families of thugs. All other Arab countries are ruled a single powerful 'clan'. So why is Syria the worst now all of the sudden?

Also, I would be surprised if Josh changes his views all of the sudden. The article by Ms. Biedermann is appalling in its superficiality, and as someone already said, she usually writes much better articles.

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

lol

you know how stupid their technical expertise is, mr. blood.

So, don't be surprised when I beat their system.

JAM

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

"""Yes, we are ruled by a minority of thugs, mostly. But what about Lebanon? they are ruled by multiple families of thugs. All other Arab countries are ruled a single powerful 'clan'."""



Right right!, but the difference is great!

While 17 millions are deprived of their basic rights in Syria, Lebanese compete and there is no one supreme dictator among them. Competition is what makes their system far superior to the Syrian's one. They observe each other. They monitor each other, and unlike Syria, the air in Lebanon is that of Freedom and dignity for the individual. There is no human being considered as God himself there, and it is enough to have one little aspect of being civilized and advanced by having this great Newspaper called Annahar.


Would you rather read Annahar or what your shitty Syrian papers?

Be honest.


JAM.

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Late Prime Minister Hariri defended himself and his policies on a daily basis in the Lebanese Parliament. He never was God in Lebanon. Is that what Syria and its Assadist System is?

You are likely to be satisfied with man worship, and you must have accepted to have Assad as your God. I refuse to worship another man. I refuse to worship statues, but people like see nothing wrong in having multiple statues of a living dictator in every corner of the country.

JAM

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

"""" "Stand Up, Sit Down, Shut Up,"""""


The whole country of Syria is under the above order, and 17 millions obey every day!


JAM

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Innocent_Criminal said...

JAM are you oppsessed with your own name? why dont u make your point in one or a couple of messeges or start your own blog. seeing 5 messeges in a row everytime you want to say something is annoying.

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Just explain to us how a criminal is innocent, mr.

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Landis Illegitimate Child said...

أكدت أن دمشق شريك في قضية المعتقلات الأميركية السرية

السياسة – 24/12/2005 :

في إطار مساعيها لوقف الانتهاكات التي تتعرض لها حقوق الإنسان في العالم في إطار ما يسمى "الحرب على الإرهاب", أطلقت منظمة العفو الدولية حملة لوقف التعذيب وسوء المعاملة في سورية اللذين يمارسان تحت هذا الشعار. وبينما وثقت المنظمة حالات كثيرة تعرض أصحابها للتعذيب لانتزاع اعترافاتهم, أوضحت أن سورية هي من الدول التي توفر مراكز اعتقال للولايات المتحدة التي ترسل معتقلين لاستجوابهم تحت التعذيب.

وأشارت المنظمة في مطلع تقرير حديث لها إلى أن "التعذيب وسوء المعاملة منتشران على نطاق واسع في مراكز الاعتقال والتحقيق السورية, ولا سيما في مرحلة الاحتجاز السابق على المحاكمة. وتتزايد مخاطر التعذيب وسوء المعاملة أثناء فترات الاعتقال بمعزل عن العالم الخارجي".

وأوضحت المنظمة أن "التعذيب وسوء المعاملة (يُستخدمان) ضد المشبوهين السياسيين والمشبوهين الجنائيين العاديين, النساء منهم والرجال, وكبار السن والأطفال".

وقد وثقت المنظمة نحو 40 طريقة مختلفة للتعذيب وإساءة المعاملة استخدمت ضد المعتقلين في سورية, من بينها الصعق بالكهرباء. هذا عدا عن الاحتجاز "في ظروف في غاية السوء تفتقر إلى الشروط الصحية في زنازين ضيقة وقذرة موبوءة بالحشرات وأشبه بالقبور".

ونبهت المنظمة إلى أن "الاعترافات التي تنتزع بالإكراه وتحت الضغوط (تستخدم) بصورة منهجية كأدلة في المحاكم السورية, بينما لا تكاد ادعاءات المتهمين بالتعرض للتعذيب وسوء المعاملة تخضع للتحقيق أبداً. وفي 2004 وحده, توفي ما لا يقل عن 9 أشخاص, نتيجة للتعذيب وسوء المعاملة في الحجز".

ووثَّقت منظمة العفو الدولية حالات ما يربو على 20 فتى كردياً سورياً تتراوح أعمارهم بين 14 و17 سنة ممن تعرضوا للتعذيب أو سوء المعاملة أثناء احتجازهم لأكثر من ثلاثة أشهر في 2004 "وضُرب هؤلاء الأطفال, بحسب ما زُعم, بالكابلات الكهربائية, بينما ضُربت رؤوسهم بعنف بعضهاً ببعض, وأُمروا بخلع ملابسهم كاملة تقريباً تحت التهديد بالضرب. كما تعرضوا للصعق بالصدمات الكهربائية على أيديهم وأقدامهم وأجزاء حساسة من أجسامهم, ونُزعت أظافر أصابع أقدامهم; وضربوا بأعقاب البنادق".

وركزت المنظمة على المعتقلين المتهمين بالانتماء إلى تيارات إسلامية أو متهمين ب¯"الإرهاب". وأشارت المنظمة إلى حالة سراج خلبوص الذي "أصبح بوضوح في حالة صحية حرجة نتيجة للتعذيب الذي تعرض له أثناء احتجازه بمعزل عن العالم الخارجي (ابتداء) من 12 سبتمبر 2005 في شعبتي المزة والفيحاء للأمن السياسي في دمشق".

وأكدت المنظمة أن المواطن خلبوص "تعرض للضرب وللدعس بالأحذية, فضُرب بعصي كبيرة وهُدد بالاغتصاب, وأُخضع لدرجات شديدة البرودة والحرارة بالتناوب, وحُرم من النوم, وأُجبر على مشاهدة آخرين وهم يعذبون, بما في ذلك بالصعقات الكهربائية". وقد سلم خلبوص بعد نقله إلى المشفى في حالة حرجة.

وكانت منظمات حقوق الإنسان في سورية قد ذكرت أن خلبوص اعتقل ضمن مجموعة من الشبان "على خلفية دينية" في دمشق.

كما أشارت منظمة العفو الدولية إلى "تعاون واضح من جانب وكالات استخبارية غربية" لإرسال معتقلين "ممن يشتُبه بقيامهم بأنشطة إرهابية" إلى سورية حيث تعرضوا للتعذيب. وأكدت المنظمة أن "سورية هي إحدى الدول التي توفر مراكز اعتقال تقوم الولايات المتحدة الأميركية بنقل مشبوهين مزعومين بممارسة الإرهاب إليها, دونما تقيد بأية إجراءات قانونية (ممارسة تعرف باسم "تسليم المطلوبين") وذلك لاستجوابهم, وغالباً ما يتم ذلك تحت التعذيب وسوء المعاملة" وفق تأكيد المنظمة.

وتحدثت المنظمة عن أربع حالات اعتقل أصحابها بزعم تورطهم بأعمال "إرهابية" أو تم ترحيلهم إلى سورية بالقوة. وقد "احتُجزوا جميعاً لفترات طويلة في زنازين قسم فلسطين للاستخبارات العسكرية في دمشق, المعروفة بظروفها اللاإنسانية والضيقة والقذرة والأشبه ب¯"قبور" تحت الأرض", حيث تعرضوا للتعذيب وسوء المعاملة.

 
At Sunday, December 25, 2005, Landis Illegitimate Child said...

أكبر شبكة دعارة وخطف أطفال في سورية

ايلاف 23/12/2005 :

كشفت ضحية مغتصبة لـ "ايلاف" اكبر شبكة للدعارة وخطف اطفال في بلدة جرمانا بريف دمشق ، واكدت انها استدرجت واغتصبت وعذبت بالضرب والحرق والربط بالسلاسل لأنها كانت ترفض ان تعمل ضمن افراد الشبكة ، واشارت الى تورط أسماء امنية وقضائية وقانونية، اضافة الى اطباء اختصاصيين في الأمراض النسائية . والغريب أن لمحامية الضحية برنامجاً أسبوعياً على التلفزيون السوري عرضت خلاله قضية الضحية المغتصبة ناريمان حجازي لكن أحدا لم يحرك ساكنا، رغم ان ناريمان أكدت على القناتين الرسميتين في سورية الفضائية والارضية تورط عناصر من الأمن الجنائي في القضية ، وانهم كانوا يمدون أعضاء الشبكة وقواديها بمعلومات عن عمليات الدهم ومواعيدها .

وأجرت المحامية ميساء حليوة محامية ناريمان اتصالا هاتفيا بالمحامي العام في الحلقة التلفزيونية نفسها وسألته عن سبل تأهيل عناصر الأمن الجنائي وعناصر الضابطة العدلية للتعامل مع ضحايا الدعارة ولا سيما القصّر منهن ، فأجاب "ان الدعارة ليست ظاهرة في سورية ، لكنها موجودة وليست كل اصابعك متشابهة، وان هناك بعض الفاسدين ". ولدى سؤالها "ما دوركم وماذا فعلتم للاقتصاص من عناصر الأمن الجنائي الفاسدين ؟"، قال "ان ناريمان لم تقدم لنا اسماء المتورطين "، فقالت له المحامية "وهل تحل المشكلة بتقديم اسماء؟ "، أجاب " نعم" ، فردت: "الاسماء تكون لديك غدا " . على الأثر قال المحامي العام: "عندما نعلم بأن ثمة عناصر من الامن الجنائي متورطين فسيكون عقابهم عسيرا ."

وذهبت ناريمان في اليوم التالي وقدمت قائمة من الاسماء التي تضم قضاة وعناصر في الأمن الجنائي ومستشارين قانونيين ومحامين متورطين واطباء اختصاصيين في الأمراض النسائية كانوا يعالجون الضحايا لدى اصابتهن بامراض تناسلية او يسقطون أجنتهن في حال حملن سفاحا ، اضافة الى اطباء اسنان وعاملين في صالونات حلاقة للسيدات ، ولكن للاسف لم يحدث شيء حتى هذه اللحظة ولم يتحرك احد.

وقالت ناريمان حجازي (22 عاما) لـ"ايلاف" انها استدرجت في مطلع أيار/ مايو 2004 من حديقة تشرين وسط العاصمة دمشق ، واوضحت انها كانت جالسة تبكي على أحد كراسي الحديقة بعدما مرت بظروف نفسية صعبة اثر فسخ خطوبتها .

فرأتها احدى النساء وشدت من ازرها ثم سألتها ماذا تعملين؟ فقالت لها اعمل اعمالا مختلفة على تقطع ، مرة سكرتيرة في معمل ومرة مدرسة لاطفال صغار ، فقالت لها السيدة : انت ابنة حلال لا يجب ان تتوقفي عن العمل ، اليوم رأيت اعلانا لاحدى الشركات تطلب سكرتيرات ومدرسات ، وقادتها الى احد المكاتب وتم الاتفاق ان تعمل ناريمان مدرسة اطفال خاصة لدى عائلة ، وذهبت معها السيدة ثم دفعتها عندما وصلت الى احد المنازل وقام باغتصابها رجل ثم عبر لها عن رغبته في ان يرسلها للزبائن، فرفضت مما عرضها للتعذيب والضرب وقام بحرقها مرارا وربطها بالجنازير من معصميها ولا تزال آثار التعذيب على جسدها.

واكدت ناريمان ان احد الزبائن الذي يحمل جنسية عربية قام بتهريبها فاشتكت لدى الأمن الجنائي ولدى اقتيادها الى المنزل للتعرف إليه قامت الشرطة باستدراجها، ونتيجة تواطؤ الامن الجنائي مع العصابة تم اقتيادها ايضا وسجنت ثلاثة شهور في سجن النساء .

واعتبرت ناريمان "المحجبة " ان لرجال الشبكة نفوذا كبيراً لدى الامن وإلا لما سجنت، واشارت الى انها عندما سألت القاضي لماذا تسجنوني وانا الضحية ؟ قال لها "حتى نحميك".

كلام ناريمان مدعوم بوثائق تحتفظ بها المحامية حليوة. وقد أصيب أخو ناريمان بانهيار عصبي وساءت نفسية والدها الذي يعمل سائقا وهو يرى انهيار مستقبل ابنته بينما يحاول تبرئتها امام مجتمع لا يرحم يحرضه على قتلها.

ناريمان تقول ان شبكة الدعارة مؤلفة من عشرات النساء واكثر من 30 رجلا وهناك اكثر من مئتي فتاة بعضهن قصر يتعرضن للاغتصاب يوميا وبعضهن يتم تزوجيهن رغم اعمارهن الصغيرة ليقوم ازواجهن "بالاشراف على عملهن " باستمرار، وهناك طفلة رأتها ناريمان عمرها سبع سنوات اختطفتها الشبكة وهي في ملابس المدرسة ورحلتها الى اللاذقية دون ان تعلم مصيرها.

الغريب في الامر ان الرجل الذي اغتصب ناريمان يحاكم امام القضاء وهناك ستة رجال وعدد من النسوة تم القبض عليهم وهناك رجال يعملون في شبكة الدعارة قبض عليهم ايضا ثم افلتتهم قبضة العدالة ولا احد يعلم السبب ؟ واشارت ناريمان إلى ان الفساد استشرى والا لما جرى تهديدها ومضايقتها في كل الاماكن التي تكون فيها حتى في قصر العدل وامام محاميتها وعلى الملأ . وأشارت الى ان قضيتها باتت قضية مئات الفتيات وانها ليس لديها ما تخسره فقد خسرت كل شيء ، لذلك ستحاول ان تقف بوجه هؤلاء رغم كثرة عددهم ونفوذهم ورغم كونها وحيدة من غير سند .

واكدت المحامية ميساء حليوة لـ"ايلاف" صحة ما قالته ناريمان، وانطلقت من الخاص للعام ، فتحدثت عن الدعارة كظاهرة يجب الا ندفن رؤوسنا في الرمال ازاءها ، وأضافت:"لا احصائيات لدينا لا في سورية ولا في العالم العربي عن حجم شبكات الدعارة المتنامي يوما بعد يوم، لذلك اضطررت إلى ان أقدم احصائيات منشورة وصادرة عن الامم المتحدة والانتربول الدولي ومنظمة العمل الدولية ومكتب العمل الدولي واليونيسيف". واشارت الى احصائية لليونيسيف مفادها أن ما لايقل عن 20 مليون طفل ذكورا واناثا قد بيعوا خلال العشر سنوات الماضية من اجل الاتجار بأعضائهم وأجسادهم .

ونددت محامية ناريمان بمعاقبة الجلاد والجاني بحكم الدعارة نفسه وهو ثلاث سنوات سجناً تُنزل بالمرأة المسوقة عنوة الى بيوتات الدعارة ، مثلها مثل القواد مدير شبكات الدعارة ورئيسها.

 
At Monday, December 26, 2005, norman said...

Merry christmas and happy new year to all of you.

 
At Thursday, December 29, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At Thursday, December 29, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Here is an article by a Westerner who was able to feel the real people's opinion regarding the Assad Regime, exactly as I have been telling mr. Joshua Landis for so long. Mr. Landis spent one year in Syria, and insisted in telling us that Syrians are in love with Queen Mary Antinette and her husband , his majesty, King Bashar Assad "the heriditary President".

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PRESSURE ON SYRIA
The next shove into democracy?

By Scott MacMillan
a freelance writer who lives in Cairo
Published December 18, 2005


As the United Nations puts Syria back in the hot seat, pay close attention to what American leaders say on the subject of democracy in Syria. The administration has made far-reaching demands of Damascus, but until recently, it had stopped short of suggesting Syria become the Arab world's latest experiment in democracy.

Last month, President Bush demanded for the first time that Syria "stop exporting violence and start importing democracy." Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice then spoke of "the Syrian people's aspirations for liberty, democracy and justice under the rule of law." These are subtle but significant shifts in the way Washington talks about Damascus: It seems we might want a democratic Syria after all.

Last week, UN special investigator Detlev Mehlis delivered his final report implicating high-level Damascus officials in the February assassination of former Lebanese leader Rafik Hariri. The same day, another anti-Syria voice in Lebanon, writer and editor Gibran Tueni, was killed by a car bomb.

The nuances of American rhetoric resonate powerfully on Syria's streets. I spent two weeks there in October, after the release of Mehlis' interim report. In conversations, it was clear that few Syrians, including those who opposed the regime and looked up to America, saw Bush as their liberator.

Make no mistake: Syrians are in denial about their government's likely role in the Hariri assassination. When the subject comes up, they respond almost reflexively: "The UN report is politically motivated. It is only an excuse to interfere in Syria's internal affairs."



Scratch beneath the surface and people will start to tell you what they really think. Many will speak disdainfully of Bashar Assad's dictatorship, and some will freely admit that government officials are probably guilty of the Hariri assassination. Eager for a sound bite, Western reporters often fail to get past the standard response.


I met a local business executive who initially gushed about the Syrian president. He spoke of Assad as reformer of a system mired in corrupt socialism and railed against American neoconservatives. After the better part of an hour, I pressed him on whether Assad's reforms would lead to free elections. He conceded that only outside pressure would push the government toward democracy.

`No loyalties, just Syria'

Later, I received an unexpected invitation to a demonstration by students at Damascus University. I had read many reports of angry demonstrations of Syrians defending their government against a perceived American smear campaign. Yet what I found surprised me: This was a pro-Syria demonstration, yet explicitly not a pro-regime one.

Nobody waved pictures of Assad, itself notable in a country where the president's portrait is ubiquitous. The national flag was the only emblem on display. "No loyalties, no slogans," one student told me. "Just Syria."

After much small talk, people began to speak openly.

"I think people in the government are probably guilty of the Hariri murder," said one young protester. "The biggest crimes of our government have been committed against the Syrian people. So why does America want to punish the people of Syria, rather than the government?"

The Assad gang has succeeded in making U.S. "interference" the main topic of conversation. The twist, of course, is that it was Syria's meddling in Lebanon that set off the current crisis. In coming months, U.S. leaders must refocus Syrians' attention on the Assad regime's thuggish rule.

The "realists" will point out that our beef with Damascus has nothing to do with democracy: The U.S. wants the Syrian government to stop allowing insurgents to cross the eastern border into Iraq, to end its support for Hezbollah and Palestinian militant groups and to quit interfering in Lebanese affairs.

In fact, these demands are unlikely to be met until democratic change comes to Damascus. Assad will not "do a Qaddafi"--the words of Syria expert Joshua Landis, who blogs at SyriaComment.com--and suddenly become the kind of dictator America likes, namely, Libya's Moammar Gadhafi.

Political opposition weak

Many will argue that the reluctance to push for a democratic revolution in Syria is an exercise in pragmatism. Right now there appears to be no viable alternative to Assad's dictatorship: Even opposition figures, such as the former political prisoner Riad al-Turk, admit that Syria's weakened and fragmented opposition is in no place to topple the regime via Kiev- and Beirut-style mass demonstrations.

It would be wise to read the words of another former political prisoner: In his 1978 essay, "The Power of the Powerless," Vaclav Havel, then a dissident Czech playwright, wrote of the totalitarian regime in which "all genuine problems and matters of critical importance are hidden beneath a thick crust of lies."

When that crust is broken in a single place, "the whole crust seems then to be made of a tissue on the point of tearing and disintegrating uncontrollably."

Right now, the weakest point in the Assad gang's crust of lies is its involvement in the Hariri assassination. If the worst of the accusations is shown to be true, Assad will appear as a liar before his own people.

If this happens, the crust will start to break and anger in Syria will turn away from the U.S. and toward the regime itself.

 
At Thursday, December 29, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I just watched a documentary from North Korea. The secret film whcih came out of NK showed executions of dissidents where some people young and old were invited to watch. I couldn't but remember Syria, and the Hafez Assad regime. The things that this regime did resembled so much what NK did. I remember in 1971 when my uncle, a military officer at the time was invited to watch an execution party back then. He wondered then why he was among the invitees, and was very concerned that they might have invited him to watch the executions of people he might have known. That wasn;t the case, but the execution acts took place. Mustafa Tlas, the Minister of Arabic Cuisine (Defense) also admitted in his interview to a German Newspaper that he was signing 150 execution orders a week, in Damascus alone. The world speaks about North Korea, but never about the friend of the NKorean leader, Hafez Assad, and when Assad died, he was given the honour he never deserved and the world, especially the Western World did not care about how bad this dictator was to the Syrian people, and that is something I can not accept nor understand.

The State of North Korea is built on a culture of personality cult, and so was and is Syria.

JAM

 
At Thursday, December 29, 2005, patriot2sy said...

Very good article, but I have a question JAM
Do you think that the current US administration is genuine about democracy in Syria, or is it just a political act to put more pressures on the Syrian regime.
Do you thinks that US admin cares about Syrians???

 
At Thursday, December 29, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

""" Do you thinks that US admin cares about Syrians???
"""

Only God can tell what is the real intention inside a man's heart.

But, the US looks for its interests, and so should the Syrians do.

The Interests of the Syrian people should be to seek freedom, democracy, creating economic opportunities, and stop the theivery of their country.

When the regime denies Syrians all of the above for 40 years, and at the same time concentrates the country's wealth in the hands of the few while filling its prisons with Syrians who dared to breath, doing so I am sure, with help and support from Russia and America at the same time and for that long to serve some foreign interests, do we say: let this game continue for ever, and let us stay at the bottom "not serving the foreign interests" while the regime is doing so, and prospering at the people's expense?

If America or Israel are getting what they ant from Syria by supporting and having this regime thrive for that long, and now America thinks that it can change its policies and support the people of Syria, provided that the peoples of Syria do not act as its enemies, do we say NO, and let this regime survive and continue its oppression for more years?

The Syrian opposition groups served the regime so much by keeping their old rhetorics of the cold war, and declaring themselves anti Americans to the depth of their hearts. That surely makes any one trying to support the reversal of fortunes in Syria think twice. The Syrian oppositions groups decided that they wanted the Regime to continue serving the foreign powers/forces/etc... the old secret ways it has been doing for 40 years, and declared openly that they are anti US, anti West, etc... a language that makes me sick.

JAM

 
At Thursday, December 29, 2005, patriot2sy said...

JAM, Thanks a lot for your comment.
You made very good points.
But, don't you think that in order to work with the amercians, you have to be ass licker. Take gulf states, jordan, ....
Do you think that it is possible to serve your owen interests while working with people whose final goals are way far from yours?

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At Friday, December 30, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Patriot2Sy:

Thanks, and in response to your latest question, this is my views:

I worked with Americans most of my life. I love Americans. They are the most practical people on Earth. They like to find efficient and fast solutions to any problem. I understand their frustrations when they have to deal with backward people, but let me say this:

It is either you be the ass licker if that is true, or let the regime be that, and stay under the control of the regime for ever.

Which is better?

Thanks

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

Nice article JAM and comments,

I would like to point out that Americans and American politicians are not monolithic. In particular, there is a large distinction between the current people in charge of American foreign policy and the rest of Americans.

In other words I think there is a happy medium in between 'ass licking' and staying under the regime's control forever. I think it is important to wait out Bush's last term because most of his foreign policy team is more concerned with Israel's well being than America's. A different administration might have more guts to demand Israel also comply with Security Council resolutions and give back the occupied Golan Heights to Syria. Then the Syrian regime will have no excuse for lack of change and the excuse for the state of emergency laws will disapear.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, shamee27 said...

Thank you for your comment engineer,
Let's differentiate between Americans and American government, I lived among Americans and generally speaking they are nice people, ignorant but no one is perfect.
JAM America killed thousands of our brothers and sisters in Iraq how do you want us to ignore this fact and work with them.
I agree with patriot that its almost impossible to find common ground with America they are after their own interests in the region they couldn't care less about the Syrians , Iraqis and the rest of the Arab world..
I don’t think as licking is one of our attributes as Arabs , i am sure you will say many Syrians are licking the regime’s ass which might be true but I can assure you many more refused and still refusing to be ass lickers to anyone.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, patriot2sy said...

“It is either you be the ass licker if that is true, or let the regime be that, and stay under the control of the regime for ever.”
I think JAM brought very controversial comment.
Would the cause you believe in justify your acts.
Is it justifiable for Syrians to lick the ass of the west in order to get the Syrian regime out(which is also an ass licker but secretly).
You accuse the regime of being an ass licker, and yet, you may accept the same act, if done by other people.
Would you steel from the rich to feed the poor, without being a thief??

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Innocent_Criminal said...

Just noticed below, it includes comments from Josh.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/july-dec05/syria_12-29.html

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, ActiveListener said...

I've just read the PBS piece and thankyou for posting it Mr Innocent C.

When I read it I think Dr Josh needs rescuing, maybe by his parents.

Did he realise he was going to be singing a role in the latest rubbish propaganda musical written by and starring Bouthaina Shabaan?

His comments are probably sincere and reasonable on their own, but here it is made to look like he and the wicked witch BS have the same scriptwriter.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At Friday, December 30, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

You probably found it!

Is Mr. Landis, the scriptwriter for Butheina Shaaban, or is it vice versa?


There is no person I ever despised more than this whore, Butheina Shaaban. (There was Shuebi who had the rank before her until she showed up).

Both Shaaban and Landis are lying when they tell the world that the people of Syria are rallying behind the regime against the US. No Syrian dares to speak their mind to regime spies anyway.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Vox Populi said...

Elaph has published pictures of a man present at the crime scene of George Hawi, who was killed on 21 June. Elaph pretends it's Husam Husam. Husam is the witness who recanted his testimony to the UN probe, claiming he was tortured and bribed by Saad Hariri. Here he is on the day of car bomb that killed Hawi, wearing a red shirt and standing very close to Hawi's family. Husam approached the UN commission in June and signed his testimony in September. He claimed he was held in captivity, drugged and threatened. You judge.

http://beirutbeltway...husam-exposed-in-pictures.html

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

Nice find Innocent_criminal!

I don't see what is the bid deal with his comments? I don't know about his comparison with the 1980s, but he said the people regard the regime the lesser of two devils when compared to current american foreign policy. I think thats a very accuarate statement. Its something a lot of us either agree with or believe is a hindrince to progress in Syria.

Shaaban is overly inflating Bashar's credentials and is being overly optimistic and simplistic. She could be more honest, but her statements are short of criminal for me--in fact the way she talks is basically the same style that Rumsfeld or Cheney talk. She is simply doing her job playing the propaganda game. I would rather all sides really be honest, but thats not the way it works right now.

Here's a link from a David Ignatius Brooking Institute hearing from a last june, I had missed it and it is interesting read after all this time has passed.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

http://elaph.com/ElaphWeb/Politics/2005/12/116823.htm


The above link speaks of a Syrian citizen, married and has 8 children, working as a Gas Station Attendant in Lebanon was killed today.

I persoanlly think that the responsible party which killed him is the Syrian Mukhabarat in Lebanon, and that is to rally Syrians behind the Assad Regime, and present the Freedom Fighters in lebanon as killers and Syrians haters.


JAM

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

in response to Vox's post:

"The Boudreaux story illustrates, once again, the emerging weakness of photography in a digital age. There was a time when photographs were synonymous with truth -- when you could be sure that what you saw in a picture actually occurred. In today's Photoshop world, all that has changed. Pictures are endlessly pliable. Photographs (and even videos) are now merely as good as words -- approximations of reality at best, subtle (or outright) distortions of truth at worst. Is that Jane Fonda next to John Kerry at an antiwar rally? No, it isn't; if you thought so, you're a fool for trusting your own eyes."

We need to be very careful with photographs that are released after the fact to serve a political purpose. Jane Fonda/John Kerry famously taught us this lesson.

Bloggers can serve a great service to society by either debunking or verifying such photographs. We should dig deeper and not accept things at face value even if it serves your own political agenda.

The fact is these photos could have been easily doctored by competent engineer that does his or her work in the digital arts. So questions to ask are what is the source of these photos? Why are they released only after 6 months? You can see what looks like a reflection of a white shirt in his glasses. Is that a real reflection or something the doctors of this phot tried to insert to show authenticity? Why is Hussam looking seemingly disinterested in the proceedings and not interacting with anyone? Rather he almost appears as a pasted 'layer'?

I can not tell whether these photos are real or not from my naked eye. I hope bloggers will answer some of these and other questions to shed more light on these photographs.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Vox Populi said...

Guys, watch Khaddam on Arabiyya, it's an atomic bomb! He sold everybody!

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, EHSANI2 said...

Khaddam delivered a devastating blow. It was long overdue. This is the start of the endgame. There is no question that he tried to paint himself as a saint. Having said this, he sounded credible.
Bashar will regret not having him assasinated earlier.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Laughable!

Khadam speaking about the poor? About the rich?

but never mind, let them uncover each other!

I only read few lines about what he said. I have not seen his interview, and am searching to find it. However, what he has uncovered about himself is the real SYRIAN PERSONALITY..., a personality that lives multiple lives, a personality of lies, and of hypocracy. Next we will hear of people like Shiekh Bouti who put Assad in the company of God, who will reverse his words and deny that he ever said so, and will present himself as the one who "protected" ISlam from those Alawi infidels, and since he is a Sunni, the Sunni population will protect him, and deny all of his past. Such is the Syrian personality, and such people deserve the Assad Regime..

Even if Assad is ousted, with such mentality, there is no hope for Syria, for we will only be changing dictators, and people will always welcome the Powerful new comer!!

JAM

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

Some overlapping stories about the Khaddam development for those without Arabbiye tv:

Is the video feed available anywhere?

By the way, I think this is an excellent development. Let us hope internal change and reform is on the way.


AP Story

Haaretz via AP

AP

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, ActiveListener said...

Thanks for those postings EngineeringChange. You raise some good points. I hope somebody in Lebanon is trying to get those photos verified by people who were at the scene.

It was interesting to read the Brooking piece – what a difference 6 months makes.

I don’t agree that Dr BS is harmless as you suggest. She is a ruthless part of the mechanism for creating confusion and intimidation for Syrians, who to survive have adopted the personality JAM just described. The best comparison would be her counterparts in Iraq in Saddam’s regime, not in America.

Here is what Dr BS says on PBS about Bashar, a man who has power only because his first and last recourse is to kill and keep killing, like his father before him. Leave that out of a description of him and you are left with 5% of the story.

“He is the first democratic, humble, young, hopeful leader for his country. I think the West doesn't know him, doesn't know what kind of man he is. If they know him, and they know what kind of person he is, and if they truly want democracy and freedom in our region, this is also a very important question. If they truly want peace in our region, they couldn't have a better partner than President Bashar.”

Then read David Ignatius in the Washington Post this month after the death of Tueni:

"Amid the Bush administration's mistakes and lies about Iraq over the past three years, it's easy to lose sight of what is at stake in this battle. But this week brings it back to square one: It's about breaking the power of the assassins.
The Baath Party in Iraq ruled by its sheer brutality. I gathered reports from Iraqi dissidents and human rights workers in the early 1990s, when I was researching my novel about Iraq, "The Bank of Fear." These stories are sickening to recount, even now: The children of Shiite rebels in southern Iraq, dropped from helicopters to terrify the parents; dissidents who had nails driven into their heads; and prisoners beaten with metal cables until they collapsed or died. At Saddam Hussein's trial last week, a woman was speaking about how she had been beaten with those cables. Watching his arrogant scorn for the testimony of his victims, I remembered what the war is about.
THE BAATH PARTY IN SYRIA HAS GOVERNED MUCH THE SAME WAY, THOUGH IT SAVED ITS WORST BRUTALITY FOR NEIGHBORING LEBANON. The Syrians maintained their mandate by demonstrating that they were prepared to kill anyone who got in their way: a president, a prime minister, a religious leader, a journalist. The price of speaking out was death. That was the message: This is the land of death. Enter into this theater of violence and we will swallow you up."

Sure, Dr BS, to know Bashar is to love him.

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, Vox Populi said...

Yes it made me laugh to see Khaddam portray himself as a good man. But whatever. The important thing is that he sold Bashar against a guarantee that he will not be turned to the future MB government (it's only an assumption of course).

 
At Friday, December 30, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

well put activelistener, very powerful contrast.

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

http://www.alarabiya.net/Articles/2005/12/31/19936.htm#2



Anyway, what I laughed about most is when he described Ghazali as "corrupt"!

We shall not forget your love for the Syrian land by bringing Nuclear and Chemical wastes to be burried in the land of Syria for few millions dollars...

By the way, Khadam was referred to the corruption court when he was the governor Of Latakia before Assad saved him back then with the so called correctional movement!


JAM

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, EHSANI2 said...

Regardless of what people think about Khaddam's past, the interview was an incredible blow to Bashar. The man is his father’s close comrade. He completely decimated Sharaa’s foreign policy (or lack thereof). He took one stab after another at the President’s relatives (i.e.: Makhlouf) mentioning a net worth in the Billions of Dollars (his is not too shabby admittedly). Bashar was implicitly accused of the Harriri murder even though he urged everyone to wait for the completion of the investigation. Mehlis was described as a professional who has done a very good job. In sum, the interview will have far reaching implications. Khaddam has made his first attempt to present himself as a credible alternative to Bashar. He went to great lengths to present himself as an economic reformer to his Syrian listeners. He also positioned himself as a friend of all the Lebanese factions but for LaHood and his security apparatus.

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, ActiveListener said...

I agree, there's a stench of endgame about Khaddam's tactics.

Dog eat dog eat dog.

Bashar's regime are so stupid and inept they couldn't even let this guy suicide.

How many others have quite the dog pack to spring out and start menacing the others.

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At Saturday, December 31, 2005, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Wait until Shehabi speaks also. He kept his silence to protect the billions he also stole, but now he may speak up.

The regime couldn't kill either one of them because they are Sunnis, and it did not want to take a chance similar to the one it took with Mahmoud Al Zo'ubi. Syrians are eaten up with sectarian divisions. The Syrian personality is born with the complex of sectarianism, and Assad had the chance to transform Syria into a modern state not unlike Switzerland or the Singapore with 35 years of total stability and billions of foreign aid, yet, he chose to enhance the Syrian sickness of sectarian divisions, and instead of making institutions, he created his personality cult, and man worship!


JAM

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, ActiveListener said...

And voila - note it's the French who are giving this flea-ridden dog a safe kennel to bark from.

They should be more careful, they might find they have imported rabies to Paris, the type of rabies that sets off car bombs.

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

"Democracy is rooted in the impertinent belief that our rulers are no better than we are and that they are answerable always. We're occasionally amazed to discover that people who are used to power forget that. That's why, every now and again, we have to remind them."

This quote is from an excellent opinion piece from Time on accountability of leaders people today--its is a very good read that shows the absolute beauty of accountability in action:
The Year We Questioned Authority

The author could have easily added that this was the year the Assad dynasty realized its hold on power in Syria is not automatic. That laws cannot be flaunted by people in power and corruption and bullying cannot be accepted.

I agree that Khaddam may be building himself as a credible alternative to Bashar, and Bashar's own "accountability moment" has arrived. If you do not perform, you may very well be ousted. Without any democratic mechanisms in place in Syria, Khaddam's interview is the best way to get this message accross.

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, EHSANI2 said...

Khaddam would not take this risk if he has not already received the backing of a number of key players. Saudi Arabia is an obvious first candidate judging by the historical relationship. Saad Harriri must have already presented his viability to France and the U.S.
Jumblat’s recent attacks now also make more sense. In sum, this interview must be seen as an opening salvo to a well-coordinated and organized move. It has just become more interesting.

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, EngineeringChange said...

"Rustom Ghazaleh behaved as if he had absolute power"

Here's one thought that just occurred to me:
Could this Khaddam interview be merely a setup to Ghazaleh being blamed for the Harirri assassignation? Maybe Khaddam is in cahoots with Bashar and Bashar will claim that Ghazaleh conceived and carried out the Harirri murder all by himself.

I think this scenerio is unlikeley be must be considered to be a possibility.

(I realize Khaddam also said in contriction that
"We must await the results of the investigation, but no Syrian security service could take such a decision unilaterally,")

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, DamasceneBlood said...

Interesting developments indeed. Khaddam has been hiding in France and conspiring with Shihabi and Rifaat for months now. I guess he worked out a deal to become the next prez? ot maybe it's gonna be Rifaat?

Either way, this is a deadly blow to Bashar and his minions.

But you know what's sad about all of this? it's that we will no longer be able to eat at La Noisette or Opaline :)

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, ActiveListener said...

Interesting, very interesting indeed, Ehsani2, Engineeringchange and Damasceneblood.

But could you imagine such players pulling Syrians out of their current unstable, corrupt, underprivileged dungeon into the daylight of freedom, justice, hope and vision?

Khaddam's past will always be the main part of his body. His reinvented future no bigger than his dirty little toes.

If it's the endgame,it's slower and less revolutionary than it looks. Read this from the Middle East Intelligence Bulletin in 2000:

"With the Syrian occupation of Beirut in 1990, Khaddam worked assiduously to solidify Syrian control over successive Lebanese governments. In particular, his relationship with former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri was very close. Several years ago Khaddam told Lebanese officials that Hariri was "here to stay until 2010," adding that "we in Syria have had no change (in regime) since 1970. Continuity leads to stability."

Ironically, Khaddam's close association with Hariri marked the beginning of his political demise. Bashar Assad, the son and heir apparent of Syrian President Hafez Assad, took control over Syrian policy in Lebanon in 1998, fearing that Khaddam might use Hariri, his money and his Saudi connections to challenge his ascension to the presidency. Syrian policy in Lebanon under Bashar took advantage of widespread disaffection with Hariri and his failed economic policies to bring the Lahoud-Hoss government to power. Hariri has spent his days since then trying to rub shoulders with Bashar Assad and distancing himself as much as he can from Khaddam and former Syrian army Chief of Staff Hikmat Shihabi, another loser as a result of Bashar's ascendency. Hariri is no longer offering his private plane, his mansions in Europe or his boat to accommodate and entertain the Khaddam and the Shihabi families.

Perhaps the best indication of Khaddam's political eclipse was the reaction in Lebanon to the death of his grand-daughter last month. In Lebanon, when the relative of an important Syrian official passes away, it is front page news and Lebanese politicians line up to attend the funeral or issue scores of statements and poems for the occasion. The only coverage given to Khaddam on this occasion was a brief paragraph in Hariri's newspaper, al-Mustaqbal, and Hariri was virtually the only political figure to pay his condolences to the Syrian Vice-President.

Khaddam's role within the Syrian regime has become largely ceremonial: paying condolences and carrying messages to the leaders of Sunni regimes in the Arab world. He is unlikely to contest this demotion, knowing that any overt signs of dissatisfaction will encourage the ostensibly reform-minded Bashar to expose details of the well-known indulgences of Khaddam and his sons in corrupt activities inside and outside Syria (e.g. Khaddam and his sons, along with the Shihabi family, used their political influence to involve themselves heavily in the cellular telephone business in Lebanon, which has earned them tens of millions of dollars in the last few years). Although officially Khaddam is still a vice-president, his political wings have been clipped and he will most likely slip graciously into a comfortable retirement."


(Full article - http://www.meib.org/articles/0002_med.htm)

 
At Saturday, December 31, 2005, EHSANI2 said...

People should not underestimate a long time Sunni survivor widely known as a “fox” in the inner circles of Syrian politics over a period spanning close to 40 years. Being Saudi’s man is a perfect place to start. He made a number of very interesting remarks about Sunnis and Shias. At one point, he said Harriri was accused of having all of the Lebanese Sunnis behind him. He reportedly countered with the suggestion that Nasarallah enjoys the same status with the Shias, so what is the problem. In effect, he is presenting himself as a Sunni candidate, which should go well in the White House. The Middle East is slowly but surely in the direction of majority rule. Iraq was firs