Friday, January 27, 2006

Hariri in US: What will he Get?

Here is a tough condemnation of Syria by Bill Frist, (copied below) the Senate majority leader. He wants more action from Europe to force Syrian influence from Lebanon.

Part of the reason for Frist’s tough words is that Rafiq Hariri has been in Washington to meet President Bush. Yesterday he spoke at the Woodrow Wilson Institute in Washington DC. I couldn't make his talk as I was speaking at the Middle East Institute in DC at the time and then at Georgetown University with many other Syrianists, in what turned out to be an interesting series of panels organized by Michael Hudson and the Arab Studies Center.

One reporter told me that Hariri had asked George Bush for weapons and equipment to build up the Lebanese military. (A Daily Star article says he may get it.) Hariri spoke about Democracy and how important it was for Washington to support him and the Future Movement if it hoped to make any progress with its Reform of the Greater Middle East project. Hariri wants to go back to Beirut. He will need Bush's help to do it, unless he is to accept the Jeddah formula and make peace with Bashar al-Asad and Hizbullah, which seems to be off the table for now. Junblat undercut that move quickly, but it looked as if Saad Hariri was ready to sign onto the Saudi deal and bow to Hizbullah.

So Hariri came to Washington after Junblat and Dick Cheney scuttled the Saudi attempt to broker a truce between Shiites and Sunnis in Lebanon. Saad wants to know what George can do for him. He gets Frist's article for his troubles. And a nice statement by Rice -- see this: Rice vows to keep pressure on Syria. Rice said: "We will continue to make sure there is no intimidation of the Lebanese people."

Frist blames the Europeans for going soft on terror. He is asking the Europeans to get tough on Syria and Hizbullah. I guess America feels it has done about as much as it can in the way of unilateral sanctions, although I am sure it will find a few more measures to add to the long list it has already come up with to squeeze Syria and Hizbullah. Maybe Washington will give Hariri more arms so he can fight Hizbullah? What else can US authorities do other to send Hariri back empty handed. I guess it can ask Europe to get with the sanctions train. Good luck. A sad day for Saad. Saudi and Egypt have been running interference for Syria with the UN and the Hariri investigation.

There seems to be a consensus in the Middle East that Syria should be forced to pay a price - such as cutting loose a few security chieftains such as Ghazzali - but that it shouldn't be destabilized by having the Asad family targeted, which Asad has made clear would lead to a direct confrontation with the international community. Europe has not declared Hizbullah a terrorist organization, which Frist is quick to point out in his finger-wagging article.

The fact that regional sentiment is blowing in Asad's direction was made clear by the Saudi attempt to broker a sulha between Syria and Lebanon. It was confirmed by General Aoun's recent statement that "his Free Patriotic Movement's closest ally in Lebanon was Hizbullah, as the two held similar views with regards to reform and other internal issues."

This statement by the most powerful Christian in Lebanon drove supporters of the Future Movement crazy. See Michael Young's recent op-ed in the International Herald Tribune, in which he lambastes Aoun for all sorts of sins is good example of the ire he has stirred up. Aoun's biggest sin is clearly that he believes that the international community is going to hang the anti-Syrian Lebanese out to dry. I guess Aoun has some experience with the fickleness of the international community when it comes to supporting Lebanon against Syria. Aoun wants to be president of Lebanon, not to join Saad in exile. I guess Aoun is saying to himself - "Been there. Done that. Hariri, you take the high road this time and I will take the low road. Your dad was PM for over a decade. It is my turn before I join him in the great Baabda in the sky.

Aoun confirmed his stand on Thursday when he said the government should resign if it was unable to end a political crisis that has paralysed decision-making. Here is Reuters quoting Aoun:
"The government crisis ... is building up and we do not feel it is being remedied in a way that can bring results," Aoun said in an interview at his home in the hills above Beirut.

"What does a government do in this situation? If you ask me what I would do, I would resign."

Lebanon's government, dominated by anti-Syrian politicians who won a majority in parliament in elections last year, has been in crisis since five Shi'ite Muslim ministers began boycotting sessions last month. The boycott began after the cabinet voted for an international trial for suspects in the killing of former Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri last February.
You can be sure that Bashar is enjoying the Lebanese mud fight. He is also enjoying the Hamas victory in Palestine even if it means one more secular nationalist movement loses to Islamists. Like Mubarak, Asad will be smirking at US discomfiture as Washington sees its desire for democracy fulfilled. But Asad better not smirk too long, for the Hamas win also underscores what will happen to him should real elections be allowed in Syria.

Rice, speaking of a possible Hamas win, said last week, "there should be no place in the political process for groups or individuals who refuse to renounce terror and violence, recognize Israel's right to exist, and disarm." Now Washington will have to add the PA on its growing list of governments to sanction and call evil.

So what did Saad Hariri get from Washington that may permit him to return to Beirut? It doesn't seem like much besides words - and perhaps some arms. My guess is that Washington will have to start sending arms to show that it is willing to support Hariri with more than words. He has to be able to deliver something to his supporters to prove that Washington hasn't abandoned him. What will Washington do about Hizbullah if it won't let Hariri compromise with the militia backed party? Building up the Lebanese army is a risky strategy, but one that will have to be undertaken if Washington is going to fight "terror."

Economy

Meanwhile, Asad is making a number of smart economic moves. Syria has recently announced a few new large development contracts meant to boost tourism and investment.
Investors from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Syria received Wednesday an official approval to build a resort in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo with a total cost of $140 million. According to Kuna, the resort which includes three, four and five star hotels containing 900 beds. Recently, the largest tourism project in Syria was launched by Kuwaiti’s Mohammad Abdul-Mohsen Al-Kharafi Company and Syria’s InterContinental Hotel with a total cost of $236 million.
Dardari opened the Audi Bank main Branch in Syria. He also announced that several new Islamic banks would be opening shortly.

Syrian authorities also announced that the economy grew by %4.5 in 2005, which was slightly faster than expected and pulls Syria out of its recession, but isn't near the %7 figure needed to begin reducing its widespread unemployment.

Syria's three main ports in Banyas, Tartus and Latakia have seen increases in tonnage on the order of 25% this year. Tartus and Latakia are the big winners. The overland trade to Iraq is driving it. In 2004, Syria transported half of all the grain imported into Iraq though the Tartus port. A special WFP program managed by my brother-in-law, Mohamed el-Kouhene, was responsible for that.

The big economic news this past week, however, is that gas and cement prices were dramatically increased.
Syria raised the price of gasoline 24 percent on Thursday, largely to counter smuggling to neighboring states, the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported.

SANA said the price of a liter rose from 24.35 Syrian pounds (48 US cents) to 30 pounds (60 US cents). However, at 60 US cents a liter, Syrian gasoline is still relatively cheap. In Lebanon a liter costs 70 cents and in Turkey US$1.72. In Jordan a liter sells for 61 cents, almost the same as in Syria.
This hike in basic commodity prices has caused an uproar by Syrians. See the blogs and comment section of Syria-news. Readers of Syria Comment have been reporting on this in the comment section. But raising prices of gas and cement are necessary, if painful, adjustments Syria must make if it wants to balance its books, slow smuggling, and rationalize its economy. It is a sign that Asad is finding some political courage on the economic issues. These price hikes will certainly increase the gap between rich and poor and will spark some inflation in the short run. But in the long run, they should help reduce government expenditures and promote growth. They are long overdue.

Syria's new five year economic plan was officially launched this week. World Bank people that I have spoken to, who were involved in its gestation process, say it is a good plan if it is implemented. We will see.

Here is the Frist article:

Moving Toward Democracy

Washington DC, January 26, 2006/The New York Sun -
By Bill Frist, Majority leader of the US Senate

A year ago this month, a car bomb killed the former Lebanese prime minister, Rafic Hariri. An ongoing U.N. investigation has implicated the Syrian government in the murder. The Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, may have played a personal role. Several additional high-profile bombings have occurred in the last several months.

Enough is enough: Syria's actions in Lebanon have proven that it has no desire to play by the rules of civilized nations. Now, the United States and its partners need to ramp up the pressure on Damascus. We need to push Syria away from its homegrown brand of Arab fascism and toward democracy, peace, and an authentic end to its interference with Lebanon's affairs. We should start by increasing and expanding our funding for prodemocracy groups in Lebanon and Syria. In the coming Congress, I plan to support legislation that will do just that.
During my travels in Lebanon last year, I visit the late prime minister's grave and met with many of the political opposition leaders who rallied to end the overt Syrian occupation of Lebanon. These leaders have the support of the Lebanese people and at least some Syrians. Now, they need assistance from the international community.

Those who favor Syrian democracy have a difficult task. Since it invaded Lebanon in 1976, the government in Damascus has earned a place for itself on the roll call of the world's most dangerous regimes. The Assad regime funds terrorists, supports groups seeking to undermine the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, seeks weapons of mass destruction, and maintains a domestic police state based on the same fascist Baath ideology that animated Saddam Hussein's regime. Along with its ally in Iran, Syria funds Hezbollah bases in Southern Lebanon that the terrorist group uses to launch rocket attacks against Israel. Syria has also allowed Al Qaeda fighters to enter Iraq through its territory.

Despite the withdrawal of its regular military forces last year, Syrian intelligence agencies remain deeply involved with Lebanon's government, banks, and commercial enterprises. Prime Minister Hariri worked hard to end this interference in his nation's affairs. Like many others, he paid for these efforts with his life.

To honor his memory and restore full Lebanese sovereignty, the U.S. has to broaden its efforts in Syria. Since 2003, we have maintained a tough set of sanctions and restrictions on Syria that have helped isolate the nation. Increased funding for pro-democracy groups isn't enough by itself, however, and sanctions work best when they involve more than one country. To begin with, we need to redouble our efforts to force Syrian cooperation with U.N. investigators and bring Hariri's murderers to justice. And if Syria fails to respond and won't comply with U.N. Security Council resolutions, we need to press our allies to also place tough sanctions on Damascus.

Our allies in Europe have a stake in this effort, and the Bush administration should look for ways to strengthen our partnership with them. The European Union remains Syria's largest trade partner, sends foreign aid to Syria, and has yet to label Hezbollah a terrorist group. The Assad regime interprets this sort of half-hearted diplomacy as a sign of weakness: It's unlikely to modify its behavior as a result.

In the long term, I am convinced that the Syrian and Lebanese population will move their own nations toward democracy if given the chance. Without strong international backing, it may take decades for real change to happen. With support from the international community, however, we can compel Syria to disentangle itself from Lebanon's affairs, move toward democracy, and eventually take its rightful place in the community of nations.

Dr. Frist is majority leader of the United States Senate.
[end]

39 Comments:

At Friday, January 27, 2006, Pascal said...

This post has been removed by the author.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Pascal said...

The Assad regime funds terrorists, supports groups seeking to undermine the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, seeks weapons of mass destruction, and maintains a domestic police state based on the same fascist Baath ideology that animated Saddam Hussein's regime.

"""


A paraia regime.

But I van sense a great happiness in Mr. landis heart. The assad family according to his calculations won't be targeted. That is the main objective of Joshua landis.

Will a psychic come forward and explain to us why? Why is this Liberal American in love with the thug family of Assad?

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Vox Populi said...

What can I say? God Bless America.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Vox Populi said...

"One reporter told me that Hariri had asked George Bush for weapons and equipment to build up the Lebanese military."

Iranian agents will shit in their pants soon.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Vox Populi said...

"There seems to be a consensus in the Middle East that Syria should be forced to pay a price - such as cutting loose a few security chieftains such as Ghazzali - but that it shouldn't be destabilized by having the Asad family targeted, "

Joshua,

By 'giving Ghazale', I suppose that you mean that Ghazale will have to be tried and will be judged guilty. A new 'suicide' will be totally unconvincing here.

The problem is that this is a non-solution. I mean do you seriously think that people will buy the fact that Ghazale is guilty but that his Bashar has nothing to do with this? What about the Syrian/Arab public opinion? I mean until know they believe the Syrian line which is 'we are totally innocent'. Do you think that anybody will seriously believe that Bashar has nothing to with this if Ghazale is judged guilty? Do you think that the world can allow a dictator to suppress the PM of its smaller neighbour?

Not to mention that the allegation that the Hariri family is ready to make a deal with Rafic's blood is totally unsubstantiated. What's the evidence on this?

The truth is that there can't be any deal, even if all parties wanted one. Either Syria will totally win and get away, either it will lose. There can't be any half-solution here. It's too late, we have reached the point of non return.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Thank for for this very detailed analysis, Josh.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, DamasceneBlood said...

Hariri wants to use the new Americanized Lebanese army of sissies to crack down on Hizbullah. Brilliant.

As for the price hikes in Syria, I don't think that's a very wise decision. The new price is equivalent to that of the US. How is that possible??? US gas travels the world to get where it needs to, Syrian gas goes from the North to Homs to Damascus...

Syrian gas is leaded and worse, US gas is unleaded and clean as can be.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia and UAE don't have any problems with their gas being smuggled, so why do we???

this is pure BS, and I didn't know that the gov. subsidizes gasoline for its citizens??? unless you mean the army/gov subsidies, which are the essence of corruption. As they say, the last act of any government is to loot its people...

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Oh, look at this. Egypt to mediate Syrio-Lebanese crisis. Omar Sleiman, will be the go-between for Beirut and Damascus. He doesn't seem too interested in Hizbullah...he's focusing on the Palestinians.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Here's a question: Who has more power? A billionaire neophyte in exile or Prime Minister Siniora. This is what Siniora said today [L'Orient-Le Jour]:

When asked about Hezbollah, the Prime Minister underscored that the Party of God played an essential role in the liberation of South Lebanon and it represents a large part of the Lebanese population, but "we do not wish to see the arms of the Resistance employed in the liberation of the occupied territories (Shebaa Farms). Israel must withdraw." Siniora was also conciliatory towards Syria and underscored Lebanon's Arab identity.

It looks to me that Siniora as well as Hariri Jr. have pushed back against mush US involvement in Lebanon. I note that a Pentagon team turned up during the summer, and were talking about the Army of Lebanon taking over from the UN contingent in southern Lebanon. And of course, the US military running their officer academies.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Innocent_Criminal said...

Nur,


I am not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic in your first question because the answer is a given. Hypothetically speaking of course, if there was to be an election between Hariri Jr. or Seniora today Hariri would win hands down. In whatever way you twist, switch or flip it one is the other’s master.

Damascus would not share your view in how Hariri & Co. are resisting US pressure. Like the story of the man crying while butchering a sheep: You should judge the man’s actions not what his feelings appear to be. And so Seniora can sound as conciliatory as he likes but when Hariri Jr. is seen getting lovey dovey in Washington rest assured that it will not be taken lightly by the Syrians

Tarek
http://innocent-criminal.blogspot.com

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, DamasceneBlood said...

Nur-Al-Cubicle

Isn't that exactly what Syria and Hizbullah have been warning against all along: Lebanon becoming a US/French client/dependent state?

I don't know, maybe Lebanon is like a person with brain damage who cannot survive unless someone from the outside keeps him on life support? I mean, the country doesn't have much infrastructure with regards to energy or cost-effective agriculture, most of which (used to?) come from Syria at deeply discounted prices. Of course, the 'hip' and 'cool' and 'civilized' Lebanese are fast to forget such amenities. They'd rather lose their electricity, heating gas, gasoline, and veggies for the sake of keeping McDonald's, KFC, and Pizza Hut open to give them the 'civilized' facade.

That, and we haven't even started to discuss how the $45 billion debt is going to be repaid to the IMF. Usually, when a Banana Republic with a debt 5 times its GDP defaults on its loans (and it eventually certainly does), it has to give very painful concessions to the US and the World Bank,

Here's a quote from Forbes 2 days ago about Lebanon's economy:

real GDP growth slowed to below 1% last year from around 6% in the previous year; the Lebanese government's gross general debt stock climbed to 727% of government revenue in 2005, the highest level of any rated sovereign globally.

Furthermore, this year's Debt Service (amount needs to get paid to the IMF) is $6.5 billion. The Central Bank of Lebanon says that it MAY be able to cover 1/2 of that amount (very optimistic).

Basically, Lebanon is in deep trouble financially. Meanwhile, the Lebanese government is squabbling about Hariri Sr.'s killers and the 'mubadaraat', not to mention that the Lebanese people are really interested in the most important issues: Super Star and Star Academy, as well as Nancy's latest video clip.

Really pathetic, and what more, you cannot blame this on Syria. The real culprit of your near-future suffering has already left the building...

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Innocent_Criminal said...

This post has been removed by the author.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Innocent_Criminal said...

Damascenblood,

You are an embarrassment so just shut it. Are you trying to mock Lebanon's open and party-loving society as some kind of disadvantage? You are joke because that’s the biggest asset we Syrians need to learn from them. The way you mock and stereotype all Lebanese makes you no better than the Lebanese that make fun of Syrians. You come off as a bitter Syrian who is pissed off of how Syria lost its influence over Lebanon and more importantly you sound sad and pathetic. You are damaging any miniscule amount of sound argument you might have with your hate. So I repeat…S H U T – I T

Tarek,
http://innocent-criminal.blogspot.com

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, t_desco said...

Aljbaili and Ghadry excluded from Syrian National Council conference:

Concern Mounts on Syria As Opposition Gathers
NY Sun

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Vox Populi said...

Don't worry DB, nobody will crack down on the Hezbollah because the army will implode.

But a will allow us to secure the border (BOTH borders) and to crack down on Palestinians.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Vox Populi said...

Syria and Lebanon have a huge opportunity. Unfortunately, both countries never lose an opportunity to lose an opportunity.

The oil prices have been surging and our dear camel err Arab brothers of the Gulf have been drowning under mountains of petro-dollars.

According to the Economist, the oil income for this year alone will be around to $340 billions.

The thing is that this amount of money vastly exceeds the investment opportunities available in the Gulf countries. The Gulf cannot absorb all that money. So the rest of the money will have to be invested elsewhere. Some of this money will be invested in the region.

Now this post said that the Gulfies are going to invest in Syria because Bashar is a genius who knows how to attract the investors.

Actually it's the opposite. There's investment in Syria because there's too much money in the Gulf, not because Bashar is a genius. In fact, this investment should be higher, but corruption, bureaucracy and nepotism have considerably diminished the amount of investments. The numbers of project are limited, because the regime needs to take its share on each of these projects. Therefore, Bashar shouldn't be thanked because he's attracting investments, Bashar should be criticized because he's making the investors flee.

Twisting the truth about Bashar is not uncommon on this blog. I can't say that I am surprised.

Syria and Lebanon need these Gulfy brotherly investments. Remember people, your country is experimenting a demographic explosion and your oil is going to end soon. The Lebanese also have their share problems (the debt). We need growth. It is imperative that we don't blow this last opportunity. Money doesn’t grow on tree (except if you’re a Saudi)!

I am not saying this because I love Syria, I am saying this because Syria and Lebanon's economy are natural partners and there are natural synergies between the two countries. People are hungry. Let’s face it, Khaddam was right and some people need to search their foods from the garbage. Other people are dying because they can't afford to pay their doctors or buy their medication.

Joshua's article also implies that Syrian couldn't care less about the Americans, because the salvation will come from our Gulfy bros. This is what the regime want the citizens to believe. This is utterly wrong. Economy 101 tells you that investors are very sensible about the safety of their money. Just imagine what would happen if one tomahawk exploded in Syria or if one American plane ‘banged’ over Damascus. In our globalized world, you need 5 seconds to transfer the money to the other side of the planet.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, zadigvoltaire said...

This post has been removed by the author.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, zadigvoltaire said...

Joshua "I love Assad" Landis wrote: "Part of the reason for Frist’s tough words is that Rafiq Hariri has been in Washington to meet President Bush. Yesterday he spoke at the Woodrow Wilson Institute in Washington DC. I couldn't make his talk as I was speaking at the Middle East Institute in DC at the time and then at Georgetown University with many other Syrianists, in what turned out to be an interesting series of panels organized by Michael Hudson and the Arab Studies Center."

Dear Josh,

Although Rafiq Hariri is dead and the person who was in Washington and at the Woodrow Wilson Institute was his son Saad, your Freudian slip makes perfect sense.
Maybe the Syrian regime should adopt your line and not only deny that they killed Hariri but also deny that he is dead.
The Syrian mukhabarat should start spreading rumours that Rafic Hariri was seen eating falafels at Sahyoun in downtown Beirut.
And he was even seen in Israel at Lahd's restaurant.
Josh you are a genius. Bashar Assad should have invited you to attend the Arab Lawyer's conference. You could have clapped for him in Damascus instead of Washington DC and shouted at the top of your voice "I saw Rafic Hariri in Washington...He ain't...Assad you're a saint...you can bring back people from the dead".

Take Care
ZadigVoltaire

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

LOL

I Just read the subtle subconscious messages that Josh is shooting his American readers with, to help his friends (the Assads he loves) in Syria. He does not stop trying to tell the US reader that pushing for democracy will mean Muslim Brotherhoods, and that the only alternative to the terrorist Assad regime is an even worse terrorsit regime in Syria. He tries that in so many forms, and he is a genius indeed in spreading rumours and spreading false information to suit his goal. I realize how it is not easy for many readers to see this man's evil defense of the criminals he is in love with.


The question that I keep trying to find an answer for is "Why is he in love with the thugs in the first place?". Those thugs are not even progressive in their thinking, and they represent truly retarded minds.

Josh tried so hard to give hints to the Syrian regime in many of his advices and analysis here on this blog, but he should see that his very smart defense and advices to them were ignored, - Because - the men of the regime are truly retarded, and can not read your subtle messages.

Few weeks or days ago, just at the so called
"defection" of Khadam, Josh tried to tell the world, and he was sending his message to Bashar Assad at the same time, (Bashar who never reads a thing, that there was a struggle between Assad and his vice president for the past 5 years), and that that "struggle" should be used by you (bashar) to tell the peple that you were on the good side while Khadam was responsible for imprisonning the innocents, etc..., the bad side! But it did not take long to see that what this genius called Josh does for the Assads is ignored by them, because they can not read nor understand. their actions that followed that advice reflected how stupid they are and like any criminal, they keep making mistakes and leaving themselves more exposed and more traceable. In that same line of subtle smart advices to the Assad, Josh tried to tell his US readers, and teach Assad that Assad was pre-occupied with his internal fight with Khadam that he neglected his foreign team and syria appeard as Anti-West, or Anti-US because of that, but from now on, the Assads, because they have finally won the battle with Khadam, will be more good with US policies . It was a message the Assads , once again ignored from their dear friend, Josh. Does that make Hosh furious that these retarded brains are not listening to him?

I personally took a rest, and decided to wait a little and see who was really responsible for imprisonning the Damascus Spring people (that Josuha and Bashar's parliment accused Khadam of doing), but the retadred Bashar's group minds could not even be consistent in their defense of themslves, and could not follow Joshua's advice to them, and this lie was soon verified to be just another lie, for it was Bashar Assad himself that has been in real control of Syria for the past 5-6 years, and it was Bashar himself that had imprisonned those people.

Lies after lies, Joshua is not being listened to by his beloved Assad family, and their crimes will not be easily defended by their lover, Joshua Landis.


JAM

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Inverse constant said...

I'm sorry Mr Landis is no expert in Lebanese afairs. One only has to lightly read a cross section of the world's press to see that to see his facts are based are almost entirely based on nonsense hearsay. Very very poor indeed. Syria need less not more expert like this.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, ugarit said...

Ok here's syria's current constitution. Let's work on a new one. I would delete Article's 3 and 8 and take out the word socialist. There is a lot to change.

Constitution

Anyone know where one can find online the older constitutions?

Does the MB believe that only a Muslim can be the president? What of women's rights according to the MB? Any links?

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, ugarit said...

Of course we should use as many liberal democratic sources for the new constitution. I'm troubled with MB's

"والقرآن دستورنا"

According to http://www.jimsyr.com/

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Vox Populi said...

Ugarit,

Try this
link

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, why-discuss said...

Mr Landis, thank you foe sharing your views with you. Whether I agree or not, I think you support your opinions with facts and references while many commnentators, instead of doing their research homework, prefer to attack your personnaly if they disagree with you. This only reconfirm to me the lack of political maturity and absence of large regional view that has poisonned the history of Lebanon since its creation.
Thank you again

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Vox Populi said...

Did the MB provide a procedure for constitutional amendments? It would be useful!

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

This post has been removed by the author.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Syria's problem is never the constitution. For even this constitution that is tailrored to the Assads themselves, they do not respect their constitution themselves, and do everything they wish regardless of the said constitution.

The problem is that Syria is governed by a family thugs called Assad. Whether there is a constitution or not. You are trying to trick the world by talking about a piece of paper that is worthless to the ones who created it.


Jam

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

The Mukhabarat calling himself "why-discuss", your bureau keeps creating new poster names, and now the latest is you, trying to praise an sob as having facts under his belt, when he is using all bluff tactics, but your tricks are evident, and your attempts to raise the status of your friend, josh will fail.


God bless those who want to defend human rights.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, why-discuss said...

"Billionaire Hariri Seeks U.S. Help For Lebanon"
FORBES 25 january 2006
http://www.forbes.com/facesinthenews/2006/01/25/saad-hariri-lebanon-cz_ms_0125autofacescan13.htmls article..

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

The fuckers could not chop up Syria and install a puppet Kurd as the President of the Kurdish oil region and a Moslem Brotherhood shit-ass as the head of oil-less Syria. Now the Jews pushed the American to give them a consoling prize (Lebanon). This way, they can achieve dual purpose of igniting a Civil War again to destroy thriving Lebanon, and hoping that Iranian backed Hizbullah influence will be diminished. For as long as Hizbullah is armed with 12000 missiles and have 5000 suicide bombers, Israel can not risk attacking Iran nuclear installation.

Aoun, as Josh said, been there done that know the best course of action to survive in this game, which any experienced politician knows the Americans, the West and Israel have already lost. But DESPARODS keep on trying.

WE TRUST THAT PRESIDENT ASSAD AND Mr. SHAWKAT INVISION's THIS PLAN AND CONTINUE TO BE THE NATIONALIST LEADER FIGHTING TO PROTECT THE NATIONAL INTERESTS OF SYRIA AND LEBANON.

De Javue

Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe
Syrian Republican Party
Syrian-European Nationalist COmmittee
www.ssprs.com
web-media@ssprs.com

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Vox is some how trying to support Josh's view or those that speak of a constitution problem by, abain, making syria's problem as one between assad and the MBs.

MBs are not the only opposition in Syria. MBs represent a portion of the Syrian people, but trying to fight us by representing the opposition as made of only MBs is an old trick the regime and his thugs assucoates such as landis continue to stress to scare every body.

As I said : We accept the present constitution, but will they respect their own tailored constitution? evidently, they don't. The EX Soviet Uninion had a great constitution , defending human rights, etc...but what the reality was?

Even Mughabe has a nice constitution on a piece of paper.

You know Mghabe, right?

Jam

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

This post has been removed by the author.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I never heard of this commentator that Metaz has included in his above post as a reference supporting his words, that who is called "De Javue".

Next time, try to bring more credible witnesses.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, ugarit said...

JAM:

"We accept the present constitution, but will they respect their own tailored constitution? "

How can you support the current constitution? At least Article' 8 and 3 are problematic. Who's going to decide who is a Muslim? Sharia could be an option but people should be given the choice to have a secular court of law.

I agree, having a good constitution is not sufficient, but it is a necessary condition. One should not only rely on the good intentions of leader but we must build and fight for a system that will not permit the violations of civil and political rights of the Syrian peoples.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Syrian Republican Party said...

"....Hariri in US: What will he Get?...."

A shaft up his ass, what else can Washingtom offer? another Iraq?

ARMS....and a huge bill, that no one in Lebanon can afford to pay for AK47's and lesser grade weapons that anyone can call the local arm dealer and get it for one tenth of Washington bill. The thing is, Arm dealer wants cash upfront, Washington, will extend Credit, knowing that it will never see a Penny paid back. Just the initial Hariri cash down payment (deposit) into someone Swiss Bank account. GAMES RICH PEOPLE PLAY, AND POOR SOULS PAY.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, ugarit said...

JAM

"We accept the present constitution, ...."

How could you support the current constitution?

Article 8 says:
"The leading party in the society and the state is the Socialist Arab Baath Party."

Having a good constitution is not sufficient condition but a necessary one.

Where are MB's and other parties proposals for a constitution?

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, EHSANI2 said...

No one wants Washington to get involved. No one wants the U.N. to get involved. The call is for outsiders to leave us alone. Leave us to our own devices. Leave us so that we can continue sinking into our black holes. Leave us to manage our affairs by ourselves so that we can drive as many of our people as possible into poverty.

I have a pretty good idea what the response is likely going to be:

We are in this desperate situation because of the Neocons and George W. Bush. If it were not for them, we would be the next Norway. Yes, ladies and Gentlemen, the blame game, our favorite past time.

Get ready now....EHSANI2 is a f....ing Jew. He is a Mossad/CIA agent.

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Kamal labwani created a good liberal consitution. Did that change anything in Syria?


We need to look at how we can get this gang out first and before anything slse!


JMA

 
At Friday, January 27, 2006, EHSANI2 said...

A new constitution for Syria has already been written. I think it is an excellent template.
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/research_topis/research_topics_show.htm?doc_id=321392


The problem is who is going to tear up the current one and adopt this one?

Mr. President:

Could you do this please? We said....Please!

 

Post a Comment

<< Home

OU Home | Disclaimer | Copyright | Equal Opportunity | OU Web Policy