Thursday, January 26, 2006

Hariri in US: What will he Get?

Here is a tough condemnation of Syria by Bill Frist, (copied below) the Senate majority leader. He wants more action from Europe to force Syrian influence from Lebanon.

Part of the reason for Frist’s tough words is that Saad Hariri has been in Washington to meet President Bush. Yesterday he spoke at the Woodrow Wilson Institute in Washington DC. I couldn't make his talk as I was speaking at the Middle East Institute in DC at the time and then at Georgetown University with many other Syrianists, in what turned out to be an interesting series of panels organized by Michael Hudson and the Arab Studies Center.

One reporter told me that Hariri had asked George Bush for weapons and equipment to build up the Lebanese military. (A Daily Star article says he may get it.) Hariri spoke about Democracy and how important it was for Washington to support him and the Future Movement if it hoped to make any progress with its Reform of the Greater Middle East project. Hariri wants to go back to Beirut. He will need Bush's help to do it, unless he is to accept the Jeddah formula and make peace with Bashar al-Asad and Hizbullah, which seems to be off the table for now. Junblat undercut that move quickly, but it looked as if Saad Hariri was ready to sign onto the Saudi deal and bow to Hizbullah.

So Hariri came to Washington after Junblat and Dick Cheney scuttled the Saudi attempt to broker a truce between Shiites and Sunnis in Lebanon. Saad wants to know what George can do for him. He gets Frist's article for his troubles. And a nice statement by Rice -- see this: Rice vows to keep pressure on Syria. Rice said: "We will continue to make sure there is no intimidation of the Lebanese people."

Frist blames the Europeans for going soft on terror. He is asking the Europeans to get tough on Syria and Hizbullah. I guess America feels it has done about as much as it can in the way of unilateral sanctions, although I am sure it will find a few more measures to add to the long list it has already come up with to squeeze Syria and Hizbullah. Maybe Washington will give Hariri more arms so he can fight Hizbullah? What else can US authorities do other to send Hariri back empty handed. I guess it can ask Europe to get with the sanctions train. Good luck. A sad day for Saad. Saudi and Egypt have been running interference for Syria with the UN and the Hariri investigation.

There seems to be a consensus in the Middle East that Syria should be forced to pay a price - such as cutting loose a few security chieftains such as Ghazale - but that it shouldn't be destabilized by having the Asad family targeted, which Asad has made clear would lead to a direct confrontation with the international community. Europe has not declared Hizbullah a terrorist organization, which Frist is quick to point out in his finger-wagging article.

The fact that regional sentiment is blowing in Asad's direction was made clear by the Saudi attempt to broker a sulha between Syria and Lebanon. It was confirmed by General Aoun's recent statement that "his Free Patriotic Movement's closest ally in Lebanon was Hizbullah, as the two held similar views with regards to reform and other internal issues."

This statement by the most powerful Christian in Lebanon drove supporters of the Future Movement crazy. See Michael Young's recent op-ed in the Daily Star, in which he lambastes Aoun for all sorts of sins. It is a good example of the ire Aoun has stirred up. Aoun's biggest sin is clearly that he believes that the international community is going to hang the anti-Syrian Lebanese out to dry. I guess Aoun has some experience with the fickleness of the international community when it comes to supporting Lebanon against Syria. Aoun wants to be president of Lebanon, not to join Saad in exile. I guess Aoun is saying to himself - "Been there. Done that. Hariri, you take the high road this time and I will take the low road. Your dad was PM for over a decade. It is my turn before I join him in the great Baabda in the sky.

Aoun confirmed his stand on Thursday when he said the government should resign if it was unable to end a political crisis that has paralysed decision-making. Here is Reuters quoting Aoun:

"The government crisis ... is building up and we do not feel it is being remedied in a way that can bring results," Aoun said in an interview at his home in the hills above Beirut.

"What does a government do in this situation? If you ask me what I would do, I would resign."

Lebanon's government, dominated by anti-Syrian politicians who won a majority in parliament in elections last year, has been in crisis since five Shi'ite Muslim ministers began boycotting sessions last month. The boycott began after the cabinet voted for an international trial for suspects in the killing of former Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri last February.
You can be sure that Bashar is enjoying the Lebanese mud fight. He is also enjoying the Hamas victory in Palestine even if it means one more secular nationalist movement loses to Islamists. Like Mubarak, Asad will be smirking at US discomfiture as Washington sees its desire for democracy fulfilled. But Asad better not smirk too long, for the Hamas win also underscores what will happen to him should real elections be allowed in Syria.

Rice, speaking of a possible Hamas win, said last week, "there should be no place in the political process for groups or individuals who refuse to renounce terror and violence, recognize Israel's right to exist, and disarm." Now Washington will have to add the PA on its growing list of governments to sanction and call evil.

So what did Saad Hariri get from Washington that may permit him to return to Beirut? It doesn't seem like much besides words - and perhaps some arms. My guess is that Washington will have to start sending arms to show that it is willing to support Hariri with more than words. He has to be able to deliver something to his supporters to prove that Washington hasn't abandoned him. What will Washington do about Hizbullah if it won't let Hariri compromise with the militia backed party? Building up the Lebanese army is a risky strategy, but one that will have to be undertaken if Washington is going to fight "terror."


Meanwhile, Asad is making a number of smart economic moves. Syria has recently announced a few new large development contracts meant to boost tourism and investment.
Investors from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Syria received Wednesday an official approval to build a resort in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo with a total cost of $140 million. According to Kuna, the resort which includes three, four and five star hotels containing 900 beds. Recently, the largest tourism project in Syria was launched by Kuwaiti’s Mohammad Abdul-Mohsen Al-Kharafi Company and Syria’s InterContinental Hotel with a total cost of $236 million.
Dardari opened the Audi Bank main Branch in Syria. He also announced that several new Islamic banks would be opening shortly.

Syrian authorities also announced that the economy grew by %4.5 in 2005, which was slightly faster than expected and pulls Syria out of its recession, but isn't near the %7 figure needed to begin reducing its widespread unemployment.

Syria's three main ports in Banyas, Tartus and Latakia have seen increases in tonnage on the order of 25% this year. Tartus and Latakia are the big winners. The overland trade to Iraq is driving it. In 2004, Syria transported half of all the grain imported into Iraq though the Tartus port. A special WFP program managed by my brother-in-law, Mohamed el-Kouhene, was responsible for that.

The big economic news this past week, however, is that gas and cement prices were dramatically increased.
Syria raised the price of gasoline 24 percent on Thursday, largely to counter smuggling to neighboring states, the official Syrian Arab News Agency reported.

SANA said the price of a liter rose from 24.35 Syrian pounds (48 US cents) to 30 pounds (60 US cents). However, at 60 US cents a liter, Syrian gasoline is still relatively cheap. In Lebanon a liter costs 70 cents and in Turkey US$1.72. In Jordan a liter sells for 61 cents, almost the same as in Syria.
This hike in basic commodity prices has caused an uproar by Syrians. See the blogs and comment section of Syria-news. Readers of Syria Comment have been reporting on this in the comment section. But raising prices of gas and cement are necessary, if painful, adjustments Syria must make if it wants to balance its books, slow smuggling, and rationalize its economy. It is a sign that Asad is finding some political courage on the economic issues. These price hikes will certainly increase the gap between rich and poor and will spark some inflation in the short run. But in the long run, they should help reduce government expenditures and promote growth. They are long overdue.

Syria's new five year economic plan was officially launched this week. World Bank people that I have spoken to, who were involved in its gestation process, say it is a good plan if it is implemented. We will see.

Here is the Frist article:

Moving Toward Democracy

Washington DC, January 26, 2006/The New York Sun -
By Bill Frist, Majority leader of the US Senate

A year ago this month, a car bomb killed the former Lebanese prime minister, Rafic Hariri. An ongoing U.N. investigation has implicated the Syrian government in the murder. The Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad, may have played a personal role. Several additional high-profile bombings have occurred in the last several months.

Enough is enough: Syria's actions in Lebanon have proven that it has no desire to play by the rules of civilized nations. Now, the United States and its partners need to ramp up the pressure on Damascus. We need to push Syria away from its homegrown brand of Arab fascism and toward democracy, peace, and an authentic end to its interference with Lebanon's affairs. We should start by increasing and expanding our funding for prodemocracy groups in Lebanon and Syria. In the coming Congress, I plan to support legislation that will do just that.
During my travels in Lebanon last year, I visit the late prime minister's grave and met with many of the political opposition leaders who rallied to end the overt Syrian occupation of Lebanon. These leaders have the support of the Lebanese people and at least some Syrians. Now, they need assistance from the international community.

Those who favor Syrian democracy have a difficult task. Since it invaded Lebanon in 1976, the government in Damascus has earned a place for itself on the roll call of the world's most dangerous regimes. The Assad regime funds terrorists, supports groups seeking to undermine the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, seeks weapons of mass destruction, and maintains a domestic police state based on the same fascist Baath ideology that animated Saddam Hussein's regime. Along with its ally in Iran, Syria funds Hezbollah bases in Southern Lebanon that the terrorist group uses to launch rocket attacks against Israel. Syria has also allowed Al Qaeda fighters to enter Iraq through its territory.

Despite the withdrawal of its regular military forces last year, Syrian intelligence agencies remain deeply involved with Lebanon's government, banks, and commercial enterprises. Prime Minister Hariri worked hard to end this interference in his nation's affairs. Like many others, he paid for these efforts with his life.

To honor his memory and restore full Lebanese sovereignty, the U.S. has to broaden its efforts in Syria. Since 2003, we have maintained a tough set of sanctions and restrictions on Syria that have helped isolate the nation. Increased funding for pro-democracy groups isn't enough by itself, however, and sanctions work best when they involve more than one country. To begin with, we need to redouble our efforts to force Syrian cooperation with U.N. investigators and bring Hariri's murderers to justice. And if Syria fails to respond and won't comply with U.N. Security Council resolutions, we need to press our allies to also place tough sanctions on Damascus.

Our allies in Europe have a stake in this effort, and the Bush administration should look for ways to strengthen our partnership with them. The European Union remains Syria's largest trade partner, sends foreign aid to Syria, and has yet to label Hezbollah a terrorist group. The Assad regime interprets this sort of half-hearted diplomacy as a sign of weakness: It's unlikely to modify its behavior as a result.

In the long term, I am convinced that the Syrian and Lebanese population will move their own nations toward democracy if given the chance. Without strong international backing, it may take decades for real change to happen. With support from the international community, however, we can compel Syria to disentangle itself from Lebanon's affairs, move toward democracy, and eventually take its rightful place in the community of nations.

Dr. Frist is majority leader of the United States Senate.


At 1/27/2006 01:01:00 AM, Blogger Pascal said...

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At 1/27/2006 01:02:00 AM, Blogger Pascal said...

The Assad regime funds terrorists, supports groups seeking to undermine the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, seeks weapons of mass destruction, and maintains a domestic police state based on the same fascist Baath ideology that animated Saddam Hussein's regime.


A paraia regime.

But I van sense a great happiness in Mr. landis heart. The assad family according to his calculations won't be targeted. That is the main objective of Joshua landis.

Will a psychic come forward and explain to us why? Why is this Liberal American in love with the thug family of Assad?

At 1/27/2006 01:15:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

What can I say? God Bless America.

At 1/27/2006 01:17:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"One reporter told me that Hariri had asked George Bush for weapons and equipment to build up the Lebanese military."

Iranian agents will shit in their pants soon.

At 1/27/2006 01:33:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"There seems to be a consensus in the Middle East that Syria should be forced to pay a price - such as cutting loose a few security chieftains such as Ghazzali - but that it shouldn't be destabilized by having the Asad family targeted, "


By 'giving Ghazale', I suppose that you mean that Ghazale will have to be tried and will be judged guilty. A new 'suicide' will be totally unconvincing here.

The problem is that this is a non-solution. I mean do you seriously think that people will buy the fact that Ghazale is guilty but that his Bashar has nothing to do with this? What about the Syrian/Arab public opinion? I mean until know they believe the Syrian line which is 'we are totally innocent'. Do you think that anybody will seriously believe that Bashar has nothing to with this if Ghazale is judged guilty? Do you think that the world can allow a dictator to suppress the PM of its smaller neighbour?

Not to mention that the allegation that the Hariri family is ready to make a deal with Rafic's blood is totally unsubstantiated. What's the evidence on this?

The truth is that there can't be any deal, even if all parties wanted one. Either Syria will totally win and get away, either it will lose. There can't be any half-solution here. It's too late, we have reached the point of non return.

At 1/27/2006 02:00:00 AM, Blogger Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Thank for for this very detailed analysis, Josh.

At 1/27/2006 02:01:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

Hariri wants to use the new Americanized Lebanese army of sissies to crack down on Hizbullah. Brilliant.

As for the price hikes in Syria, I don't think that's a very wise decision. The new price is equivalent to that of the US. How is that possible??? US gas travels the world to get where it needs to, Syrian gas goes from the North to Homs to Damascus...

Syrian gas is leaded and worse, US gas is unleaded and clean as can be.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia and UAE don't have any problems with their gas being smuggled, so why do we???

this is pure BS, and I didn't know that the gov. subsidizes gasoline for its citizens??? unless you mean the army/gov subsidies, which are the essence of corruption. As they say, the last act of any government is to loot its people...

At 1/27/2006 02:05:00 AM, Blogger Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Oh, look at this. Egypt to mediate Syrio-Lebanese crisis. Omar Sleiman, will be the go-between for Beirut and Damascus. He doesn't seem too interested in Hizbullah...he's focusing on the Palestinians.

At 1/27/2006 02:26:00 AM, Blogger Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Here's a question: Who has more power? A billionaire neophyte in exile or Prime Minister Siniora. This is what Siniora said today [L'Orient-Le Jour]:

When asked about Hezbollah, the Prime Minister underscored that the Party of God played an essential role in the liberation of South Lebanon and it represents a large part of the Lebanese population, but "we do not wish to see the arms of the Resistance employed in the liberation of the occupied territories (Shebaa Farms). Israel must withdraw." Siniora was also conciliatory towards Syria and underscored Lebanon's Arab identity.

It looks to me that Siniora as well as Hariri Jr. have pushed back against mush US involvement in Lebanon. I note that a Pentagon team turned up during the summer, and were talking about the Army of Lebanon taking over from the UN contingent in southern Lebanon. And of course, the US military running their officer academies.

At 1/27/2006 03:41:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...


I am not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic in your first question because the answer is a given. Hypothetically speaking of course, if there was to be an election between Hariri Jr. or Seniora today Hariri would win hands down. In whatever way you twist, switch or flip it one is the other’s master.

Damascus would not share your view in how Hariri & Co. are resisting US pressure. Like the story of the man crying while butchering a sheep: You should judge the man’s actions not what his feelings appear to be. And so Seniora can sound as conciliatory as he likes but when Hariri Jr. is seen getting lovey dovey in Washington rest assured that it will not be taken lightly by the Syrians


At 1/27/2006 03:46:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...


Isn't that exactly what Syria and Hizbullah have been warning against all along: Lebanon becoming a US/French client/dependent state?

I don't know, maybe Lebanon is like a person with brain damage who cannot survive unless someone from the outside keeps him on life support? I mean, the country doesn't have much infrastructure with regards to energy or cost-effective agriculture, most of which (used to?) come from Syria at deeply discounted prices. Of course, the 'hip' and 'cool' and 'civilized' Lebanese are fast to forget such amenities. They'd rather lose their electricity, heating gas, gasoline, and veggies for the sake of keeping McDonald's, KFC, and Pizza Hut open to give them the 'civilized' facade.

That, and we haven't even started to discuss how the $45 billion debt is going to be repaid to the IMF. Usually, when a Banana Republic with a debt 5 times its GDP defaults on its loans (and it eventually certainly does), it has to give very painful concessions to the US and the World Bank,

Here's a quote from Forbes 2 days ago about Lebanon's economy:

real GDP growth slowed to below 1% last year from around 6% in the previous year; the Lebanese government's gross general debt stock climbed to 727% of government revenue in 2005, the highest level of any rated sovereign globally.

Furthermore, this year's Debt Service (amount needs to get paid to the IMF) is $6.5 billion. The Central Bank of Lebanon says that it MAY be able to cover 1/2 of that amount (very optimistic).

Basically, Lebanon is in deep trouble financially. Meanwhile, the Lebanese government is squabbling about Hariri Sr.'s killers and the 'mubadaraat', not to mention that the Lebanese people are really interested in the most important issues: Super Star and Star Academy, as well as Nancy's latest video clip.

Really pathetic, and what more, you cannot blame this on Syria. The real culprit of your near-future suffering has already left the building...

At 1/27/2006 04:18:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

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At 1/27/2006 04:20:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...


You are an embarrassment so just shut it. Are you trying to mock Lebanon's open and party-loving society as some kind of disadvantage? You are joke because that’s the biggest asset we Syrians need to learn from them. The way you mock and stereotype all Lebanese makes you no better than the Lebanese that make fun of Syrians. You come off as a bitter Syrian who is pissed off of how Syria lost its influence over Lebanon and more importantly you sound sad and pathetic. You are damaging any miniscule amount of sound argument you might have with your hate. So I repeat…S H U T – I T


At 1/27/2006 05:03:00 AM, Blogger t_desco said...

Aljbaili and Ghadry excluded from Syrian National Council conference:

Concern Mounts on Syria As Opposition Gathers
NY Sun

At 1/27/2006 05:27:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Don't worry DB, nobody will crack down on the Hezbollah because the army will implode.

But a will allow us to secure the border (BOTH borders) and to crack down on Palestinians.

At 1/27/2006 06:04:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Syria and Lebanon have a huge opportunity. Unfortunately, both countries never lose an opportunity to lose an opportunity.

The oil prices have been surging and our dear camel err Arab brothers of the Gulf have been drowning under mountains of petro-dollars.

According to the Economist, the oil income for this year alone will be around to $340 billions.

The thing is that this amount of money vastly exceeds the investment opportunities available in the Gulf countries. The Gulf cannot absorb all that money. So the rest of the money will have to be invested elsewhere. Some of this money will be invested in the region.

Now this post said that the Gulfies are going to invest in Syria because Bashar is a genius who knows how to attract the investors.

Actually it's the opposite. There's investment in Syria because there's too much money in the Gulf, not because Bashar is a genius. In fact, this investment should be higher, but corruption, bureaucracy and nepotism have considerably diminished the amount of investments. The numbers of project are limited, because the regime needs to take its share on each of these projects. Therefore, Bashar shouldn't be thanked because he's attracting investments, Bashar should be criticized because he's making the investors flee.

Twisting the truth about Bashar is not uncommon on this blog. I can't say that I am surprised.

Syria and Lebanon need these Gulfy brotherly investments. Remember people, your country is experimenting a demographic explosion and your oil is going to end soon. The Lebanese also have their share problems (the debt). We need growth. It is imperative that we don't blow this last opportunity. Money doesn’t grow on tree (except if you’re a Saudi)!

I am not saying this because I love Syria, I am saying this because Syria and Lebanon's economy are natural partners and there are natural synergies between the two countries. People are hungry. Let’s face it, Khaddam was right and some people need to search their foods from the garbage. Other people are dying because they can't afford to pay their doctors or buy their medication.

Joshua's article also implies that Syrian couldn't care less about the Americans, because the salvation will come from our Gulfy bros. This is what the regime want the citizens to believe. This is utterly wrong. Economy 101 tells you that investors are very sensible about the safety of their money. Just imagine what would happen if one tomahawk exploded in Syria or if one American plane ‘banged’ over Damascus. In our globalized world, you need 5 seconds to transfer the money to the other side of the planet.

At 1/27/2006 06:26:00 AM, Blogger zadigvoltaire said...

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At 1/27/2006 06:32:00 AM, Blogger zadigvoltaire said...

Joshua "I love Assad" Landis wrote: "Part of the reason for Frist’s tough words is that Rafiq Hariri has been in Washington to meet President Bush. Yesterday he spoke at the Woodrow Wilson Institute in Washington DC. I couldn't make his talk as I was speaking at the Middle East Institute in DC at the time and then at Georgetown University with many other Syrianists, in what turned out to be an interesting series of panels organized by Michael Hudson and the Arab Studies Center."

Dear Josh,

Although Rafiq Hariri is dead and the person who was in Washington and at the Woodrow Wilson Institute was his son Saad, your Freudian slip makes perfect sense.
Maybe the Syrian regime should adopt your line and not only deny that they killed Hariri but also deny that he is dead.
The Syrian mukhabarat should start spreading rumours that Rafic Hariri was seen eating falafels at Sahyoun in downtown Beirut.
And he was even seen in Israel at Lahd's restaurant.
Josh you are a genius. Bashar Assad should have invited you to attend the Arab Lawyer's conference. You could have clapped for him in Damascus instead of Washington DC and shouted at the top of your voice "I saw Rafic Hariri in Washington...He ain't...Assad you're a can bring back people from the dead".

Take Care

At 1/27/2006 08:09:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


I Just read the subtle subconscious messages that Josh is shooting his American readers with, to help his friends (the Assads he loves) in Syria. He does not stop trying to tell the US reader that pushing for democracy will mean Muslim Brotherhoods, and that the only alternative to the terrorist Assad regime is an even worse terrorsit regime in Syria. He tries that in so many forms, and he is a genius indeed in spreading rumours and spreading false information to suit his goal. I realize how it is not easy for many readers to see this man's evil defense of the criminals he is in love with.

The question that I keep trying to find an answer for is "Why is he in love with the thugs in the first place?". Those thugs are not even progressive in their thinking, and they represent truly retarded minds.

Josh tried so hard to give hints to the Syrian regime in many of his advices and analysis here on this blog, but he should see that his very smart defense and advices to them were ignored, - Because - the men of the regime are truly retarded, and can not read your subtle messages.

Few weeks or days ago, just at the so called
"defection" of Khadam, Josh tried to tell the world, and he was sending his message to Bashar Assad at the same time, (Bashar who never reads a thing, that there was a struggle between Assad and his vice president for the past 5 years), and that that "struggle" should be used by you (bashar) to tell the peple that you were on the good side while Khadam was responsible for imprisonning the innocents, etc..., the bad side! But it did not take long to see that what this genius called Josh does for the Assads is ignored by them, because they can not read nor understand. their actions that followed that advice reflected how stupid they are and like any criminal, they keep making mistakes and leaving themselves more exposed and more traceable. In that same line of subtle smart advices to the Assad, Josh tried to tell his US readers, and teach Assad that Assad was pre-occupied with his internal fight with Khadam that he neglected his foreign team and syria appeard as Anti-West, or Anti-US because of that, but from now on, the Assads, because they have finally won the battle with Khadam, will be more good with US policies . It was a message the Assads , once again ignored from their dear friend, Josh. Does that make Hosh furious that these retarded brains are not listening to him?

I personally took a rest, and decided to wait a little and see who was really responsible for imprisonning the Damascus Spring people (that Josuha and Bashar's parliment accused Khadam of doing), but the retadred Bashar's group minds could not even be consistent in their defense of themslves, and could not follow Joshua's advice to them, and this lie was soon verified to be just another lie, for it was Bashar Assad himself that has been in real control of Syria for the past 5-6 years, and it was Bashar himself that had imprisonned those people.

Lies after lies, Joshua is not being listened to by his beloved Assad family, and their crimes will not be easily defended by their lover, Joshua Landis.


At 1/27/2006 08:15:00 AM, Blogger Inverse constant said...

I'm sorry Mr Landis is no expert in Lebanese afairs. One only has to lightly read a cross section of the world's press to see that to see his facts are based are almost entirely based on nonsense hearsay. Very very poor indeed. Syria need less not more expert like this.

At 1/27/2006 09:14:00 AM, Blogger ugarit said...

Ok here's syria's current constitution. Let's work on a new one. I would delete Article's 3 and 8 and take out the word socialist. There is a lot to change.


Anyone know where one can find online the older constitutions?

Does the MB believe that only a Muslim can be the president? What of women's rights according to the MB? Any links?

At 1/27/2006 09:21:00 AM, Blogger ugarit said...

Of course we should use as many liberal democratic sources for the new constitution. I'm troubled with MB's

"والقرآن دستورنا"

According to

At 1/27/2006 09:22:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...


Try this

At 1/27/2006 09:22:00 AM, Blogger why-discuss said...

Mr Landis, thank you foe sharing your views with you. Whether I agree or not, I think you support your opinions with facts and references while many commnentators, instead of doing their research homework, prefer to attack your personnaly if they disagree with you. This only reconfirm to me the lack of political maturity and absence of large regional view that has poisonned the history of Lebanon since its creation.
Thank you again

At 1/27/2006 09:24:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Did the MB provide a procedure for constitutional amendments? It would be useful!

At 1/27/2006 09:28:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 1/27/2006 09:30:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Syria's problem is never the constitution. For even this constitution that is tailrored to the Assads themselves, they do not respect their constitution themselves, and do everything they wish regardless of the said constitution.

The problem is that Syria is governed by a family thugs called Assad. Whether there is a constitution or not. You are trying to trick the world by talking about a piece of paper that is worthless to the ones who created it.


At 1/27/2006 09:33:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

The Mukhabarat calling himself "why-discuss", your bureau keeps creating new poster names, and now the latest is you, trying to praise an sob as having facts under his belt, when he is using all bluff tactics, but your tricks are evident, and your attempts to raise the status of your friend, josh will fail.

God bless those who want to defend human rights.

At 1/27/2006 09:34:00 AM, Blogger why-discuss said...

"Billionaire Hariri Seeks U.S. Help For Lebanon"
FORBES 25 january 2006 article..

At 1/27/2006 09:37:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

The fuckers could not chop up Syria and install a puppet Kurd as the President of the Kurdish oil region and a Moslem Brotherhood shit-ass as the head of oil-less Syria. Now the Jews pushed the American to give them a consoling prize (Lebanon). This way, they can achieve dual purpose of igniting a Civil War again to destroy thriving Lebanon, and hoping that Iranian backed Hizbullah influence will be diminished. For as long as Hizbullah is armed with 12000 missiles and have 5000 suicide bombers, Israel can not risk attacking Iran nuclear installation.

Aoun, as Josh said, been there done that know the best course of action to survive in this game, which any experienced politician knows the Americans, the West and Israel have already lost. But DESPARODS keep on trying.


De Javue

Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe
Syrian Republican Party
Syrian-European Nationalist COmmittee

At 1/27/2006 09:38:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Vox is some how trying to support Josh's view or those that speak of a constitution problem by, abain, making syria's problem as one between assad and the MBs.

MBs are not the only opposition in Syria. MBs represent a portion of the Syrian people, but trying to fight us by representing the opposition as made of only MBs is an old trick the regime and his thugs assucoates such as landis continue to stress to scare every body.

As I said : We accept the present constitution, but will they respect their own tailored constitution? evidently, they don't. The EX Soviet Uninion had a great constitution , defending human rights, etc...but what the reality was?

Even Mughabe has a nice constitution on a piece of paper.

You know Mghabe, right?


At 1/27/2006 09:52:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 1/27/2006 09:57:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I never heard of this commentator that Metaz has included in his above post as a reference supporting his words, that who is called "De Javue".

Next time, try to bring more credible witnesses.

At 1/27/2006 10:04:00 AM, Blogger ugarit said...


"We accept the present constitution, but will they respect their own tailored constitution? "

How can you support the current constitution? At least Article' 8 and 3 are problematic. Who's going to decide who is a Muslim? Sharia could be an option but people should be given the choice to have a secular court of law.

I agree, having a good constitution is not sufficient, but it is a necessary condition. One should not only rely on the good intentions of leader but we must build and fight for a system that will not permit the violations of civil and political rights of the Syrian peoples.

At 1/27/2006 10:05:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

"....Hariri in US: What will he Get?...."

A shaft up his ass, what else can Washingtom offer? another Iraq?

ARMS....and a huge bill, that no one in Lebanon can afford to pay for AK47's and lesser grade weapons that anyone can call the local arm dealer and get it for one tenth of Washington bill. The thing is, Arm dealer wants cash upfront, Washington, will extend Credit, knowing that it will never see a Penny paid back. Just the initial Hariri cash down payment (deposit) into someone Swiss Bank account. GAMES RICH PEOPLE PLAY, AND POOR SOULS PAY.

At 1/27/2006 10:12:00 AM, Blogger ugarit said...


"We accept the present constitution, ...."

How could you support the current constitution?

Article 8 says:
"The leading party in the society and the state is the Socialist Arab Baath Party."

Having a good constitution is not sufficient condition but a necessary one.

Where are MB's and other parties proposals for a constitution?

At 1/27/2006 10:24:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

What Imeant Ugarit, is that our problem is not the constitution. Syria had excellent constitutions before, and that did not prevent it from falling in coup d'etat after another. In fact, when i spoke about Syria's constitution of 1920, I gave it as an example that can be emitated, and which was far superior to anything I have read in other Wesern constitutions themselves. France occupied Syria back then, and destroyed that constitution. Syria also had a good start after France left it, and our 1946 parlimantary elections did not last because of the well known CIA plot back then that brought a pumped up general called "Hussni Zaiim" who could not see farther than the edge of his nose. From then, military people tried one coup after the other, which in a way was probably what the CIA wanted in the first place, and which lead at the end to the coming of th eperfect dictator in 1970 who could do more damage to Syrians than the French occupation itself.

When i say : We accept the Assad constitution, I am saying it is not reallly what is written on a paper that is Syria's problem. Even this fucked up constitution as you are saying is good if it can be respected. Let the regime respect this constitution which is its own, but it does not. If this constitution that you are describing as bad can be respected by the gang that put it on paper, we can be happy, and that is a big improvement on the coditions that Syrians find themselves sunk in.So,, you create aq wonderful so called constitution and do not allow it to exist in reality, what good does it do for us? Nothing.

I said: look at the ex soviet union constitution, you will see the most wonderful words and respect for human rights, as well as if you examine Mughabe's consitution, and what his real pracitise in governing his people is.

Yes, let them respect their own constitution to start with, and that is in my opinion a big step forward.


At 1/27/2006 10:25:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

No one wants Washington to get involved. No one wants the U.N. to get involved. The call is for outsiders to leave us alone. Leave us to our own devices. Leave us so that we can continue sinking into our black holes. Leave us to manage our affairs by ourselves so that we can drive as many of our people as possible into poverty.

I have a pretty good idea what the response is likely going to be:

We are in this desperate situation because of the Neocons and George W. Bush. If it were not for them, we would be the next Norway. Yes, ladies and Gentlemen, the blame game, our favorite past time.

Get ready now....EHSANI2 is a Jew. He is a Mossad/CIA agent.

At 1/27/2006 10:27:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Kamal labwani created a good liberal consitution. Did that change anything in Syria?

We need to look at how we can get this gang out first and before anything slse!


At 1/27/2006 10:38:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

A new constitution for Syria has already been written. I think it is an excellent template.

The problem is who is going to tear up the current one and adopt this one?

Mr. President:

Could you do this please? We said....Please!

At 1/27/2006 10:51:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

what is happening to posts here?

At 1/27/2006 10:59:00 AM, Blogger majedkhaldoon said...

increasing the price of Oil and Cement , will not decrease goverment expenditure, but rather, it will increase goverment income, it definitely cause inflation, which by time will increase goverment spending.
this move was intended to cut down on smugling gas from syria to lebanon, the syrian people are right to complain, since it will make it difficult for the poor people to catch up, it must be followed by increasing salaries, the average salary in syria, is less than $150.

At 1/27/2006 10:59:00 AM, Blogger Lebanese Pride said...

Great post landis...ahahaha! you fucking dick head! are you still sucking assads dick? you fucking homo! How much where you made fun of in high school? college? these days? I can tell by your look and your follower artciles that you are a geek who got picked on alot (and still does) and now tries to suck cock to make people like him! your a fuckin homo just like that jaska ass bashar and ALL syrians who agree with your dumb ass posts! i hope one day i run into you! GO FUCK YOUR SELF AND FUCK SYRIA!


At 1/27/2006 11:11:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

hey majed aka DB... cool it down. I know how the Assad troops come here and pretend to be Islamic fanataic against him, so they can scare others of the opposition to the criminal regime.

At 1/27/2006 11:33:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Let me offer my good friends on this forum a reality check. This includes Dr. Landis of course:

Dictatorships don’t usually change and reform if left to their own devices. Moreover, when a minority rules a dictatorship, it becomes even less likely that it will risk changing anything in the status quo. Allow me to briefly elaborate:

Minority ruled dictatorships know that they are in office against the will of the majority. To survive, they have to mistrust the majority, which they deem is after one thing: to dethrone them from power. By definition, for such minority dictatorships to rule, they have to resort to ultra levels of internal security to ensure survival. Bashar and his advisors hear the calls for reforms and democracy. They know that they are way short on delivering or meeting the demands of their people. But, in their book, more reforms and more democracy carry massive risks. They are nothing but a slippery slope. They are nothing but tools designed and concocted to change the status quo and ultimately lead to the dictatorship’s overthrow. We can cry human rights all we want. Bashar and his inner circle have a job to do; they have to keep their seats and survive. This is not a beauty contest for them. Being a minority, they know what is going to happen next. The very people that they supposedly should give more democracy to, will come back to kick them out of power. Their brains and DNA has been programmed to think this way since they took over some 36 years ago. Ironically, their survival thus far has reinforced in their minds that by doing it their way, they have survived this long and nothing will convince them otherwise.

Saddam Hussein played by the same rules if not more ruthlessly. Calls for reform and more democracy were also prevalent there. It is rue that another Joshua Landis was not around to start but similar calls for change were also widespread. Did Saddam oblige? Did he institute reform? Did he open up the economy to the forces of open markets? Did he sit and listen to opposition parties and changed his own constitution?

Just like Bashar, Saddam knew that his only hope was to convince his subjects that foreigners were the real enemies. He knew full well that only the U.S. had the power to dispose him, and how true that proved to be. Had it not been for the U.S. army to invade the streets of Baghdad, nothing would have changed Saddam’s dictatorship. I do not want to get into an argument about post Saddam Iraq. I merely want everyone to be realistic:

This Syrian regime will stay in power for the next 36 years and far beyond unless help is sought from outside. The vast majority on this forum is clearly opposed to this step.
They seem to feel that the regime can and will change if the “people” kept pushing for democracy and reforms. Regrettably, they will be utterly disappointed. In a nutshell, you cannot have your cake and eat it.

At 1/27/2006 11:49:00 AM, Blogger Pascal said...

""""""""" This Syrian regime will stay in power for the next 36 years and far beyond unless help is sought from outside. The vast majority on this forum is clearly opposed to this step. """"""""""

That is very true, but why is landis defending the regime? I think this question that Jam asked should be answered.

I am hopingg that President George W. Bush will accomplish his mission to liberate Syria too. His legacy very much depends on liberating Syria, because liberating Syria will ensure his permanent success in Iraq and lebanon too.

At 1/27/2006 11:55:00 AM, Blogger I RATHER BORN IHSANI2 JEW-DOG said...

Ehsani2 that fucking Jewish CIA/Mossad agent wants Neo-con scamster to help him free Syria.

Who you are fooling fucker.We know you are as Syrian as Jesus was a SUN/SON of god. A big lie and scam of the mellenias, Neo-con scamster underling.

Your plans are busted. Keep on barking in English and and that ape language called Hebrew.

If you are Syrian, you would ask why America are not helping Syrian Democracts free their country. Instead, we get you human scum, wanted to send American Citizens and Mossad Agents to do the work for ya, all awhile you enjoying your Mossad smuggled Soviet whores in New York and making a living as X Mossad agent, spying on American Commercial concerns and sell the info to Israeli companies.

How about asking Bush to Pass that ancient Syria Liberation act. How about you volunteering to fight for your country!

You are not Syrian, you are a fucking low life Zionist.

At 1/27/2006 12:07:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Here we go. My earlier post precisely predicted the above response. Thank you SRP and I am honored to have you sign under my new name.

Our very good friend asks, “Why America are not helping Syrian democrats free their country”. Instead it is EHSANI2 (human scum) “that wants to send American citizens and..... yup...Mossad agents do the work.

How profound !

At 1/27/2006 12:12:00 PM, Blogger t_desco said...

Brammertz reportedly has evidence to identify those involved in Hariri killing

Judge Serge Brammertz, the newly appointed head of the UN investigation into the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri, has informed Lebanese officials that the dossier handed over to him by his predecessor Detlev Mehlis contains enough information enabling him to identify those responsible for the murder and demand they stand trial.

Meanwhile, diplomatic sources at the UN headquarters have indicated that the investigation team “has recovered the voice recordings of Syrian officials that include threats to Prime Minister Hariri. These recordings are one of the most important pieces of evidence in the investigation that [Former investigator] Detlev Mehlis wanted to keep confidential.”
Asharq Alawsat

The focus is back on Asef Shawkat, according to the article:

"What is required is an answer to whether President Bashar Assad will allow the probe team to meet Foreign Minister Faruq al Sharaa and question his brother-in-law Asef Shawkat, head of military intelligence”, the sources added."

At 1/27/2006 12:25:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Did we hear a pig calling us! We like pigs, especially when they are pink. But what we don't like is real pigs like EHASI2 spicie calling us put of the blue.

Someone, a poster here (could be his mother that was born in wedlock near Warsaw) asked him a question that put this pig on the dotted spot. and the only answear he can provide is HOW PROFOUND!!!!!. What a KHKHAAA, KHKHAAA, KHAAA pig. He smell like one and talk like one, he must be one.

Answear the question the poster asked you ideot and ugly pig, stop bringing SRP into your PIGS corral.

At 1/27/2006 12:49:00 PM, Blogger Karakuz said...

Yeah, that's what America needs to do. Arm more Arab states. Why didn't we think of that before?

At 1/27/2006 12:50:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

You want the pig to answer the question?

No problem Sir.

To suggest that I want the Americans and the Zionists (I think people prefer to use the more fancy Neocons) to invade Syria is simply ignorant and silly. What I am saying that that we as people either accept:

America, France and the U.N. continue to pressure the regime till it collapses under the ongoing investigation.


Reject any foreign interference in our affairs and accept this regime for the next 36 years or beyond. There is, in my opinion, no conceivable internal group that has the capability of changing this regime or forcing it to reform and democratize.

Thankfully, America and co. does not seem to be willing or capable of invading the country. Instead, they have used the Hariri investigation to significantly alter the regime’s methods, or as I suspect, to even go further by pushing the regime hoping that it falls under its own weight. Thus far, everything is working in that direction. Push with the investigation till the inner most circle of the President, if not him, is found guilty.

One last time:

If it were not for this U.S. pressure and if it were for the Syrian people alone, an Assad will rule this country for the next 336 years.

Now, it is time for you to EHSANI2..You pig...Your mother is a whore.....You Jew...

Please try to be more innovative and less predictable in the future.

At 1/27/2006 01:12:00 PM, Blogger Nafdik said...

I agree with Ehsani, opposition forces should ride the waves of history and get rid of this monarchy once and for all.

The regime is at its weakest in decades and if we can't get rid of it now, we deserve another generation of Assad rule.

At 1/27/2006 01:17:00 PM, Blogger zobahhan said...

Inverse constant is a retard. Id like to see your expertise on the subject or any subject for that matter including "inverse constants." If you are unhappy with mr landis, take your grudge elsewhere, get your own fullbright and study what you want. Until you do that, shutup and get lost.

As for everyone else, I dont see how attacking landis has to do with anything. If you are unhappy with his statements and commentary, there is no reason to personally attack him and call him an agent or "having his head up assads ass."

What im trying to say is we all have different opinions and that should be respected.

With regards to the post, the lebanese military will never attack hizbullah or the palestenians no matter what weapons are given to them. Nor will the palestenians sit and watch while they get chopped. The iranians wont be shitting in their pants...soon to have nuclear weapons i wonder what an army of 3000000lebanese (men and women -total pop?) armed with rifles and smgs would do to challenge a single warhead. Does lebanon even have a missile system?

Hariri wants assurances. Continued pm'ship and some business deals..all normal in the region but theres nothing concrete he will get in return. He will not return to lebanon anytime soon because this allows him to maintain the notion of "syria is still after me" and international pressure continues. IF he were to come back and nothing happen to him, well no need for pressure. Just accountability and game over.

As for the economy, demand/supply is what decides prices and subsidies should be removed on all but essential industries (if there are any in syria). As for the person who questioned saudi arabia and kuwait oil smuggling, why would you smuggle oil to bahrain or kuwait or another oil-rich nation? Geographically speaking, syria is more prone to smuggling than the other would also take forever to go from any inhabited area with oil in saudi arabia to another country making it infeasible.

I question sometimes whether people think before they write or simply do to get their names out there.


At 1/27/2006 01:43:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

This (I RATHER BORN IHSANI2 JEW-DOG) said... Is the Syrian Republican Party,
Look.. Ehsani2 has a good point (Dictatorships don’t usually change and reform if left to their own devices).
I would prefer NOT having US or any other outside powers to come into the stage and pull the plug on the current Syrian dictatorship.. But it may not be an option any more, and the outside power already working to rack havoc on Assad & company IN..

At 1/27/2006 01:48:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

One liter of diesel costs 7 Syp. The same liter costs 70 Syp in Turkey and close to 30 in Lebanon. The Syrian government decided to leave this hot potato alone. If you thought Benzene and cement caused uproar, wait for diesel (mazot) to start losing its subsidy. In economics, subsidies cause a misallocation of resources. In socialist Syria, the whole economy suffers from an inefficient allocation of resources. Every public sector company/factory loses money year in year out. All the resources allocated to this sector from capital, labor to raw materials are going to waste, plunder and outright theft. The Baath party and the regime continue to cling to these public sector dinosaurs. They continue to subsidize commodities that get loaded up on trucks and head for our neighboring countries. Consider this, if you smuggle a truck of mazot to Turkey, you stand to make 10 times what you paid. The government treasury ends up losing massive sums of money that get transferred to the smugglers. It is insane. Why continue? Because shutting losing public sector companies means asking millions of Syrian employees to join the ranks of the unemployed. Lifting subsidies will also mean that the cost of living will go up further while incomes stagnate. The Baath party is unwilling and incapable of embracing a full-fledged market economy. Only when the massive share of the public sector gives way to a flourishing Makhlouf-free competitive sector will this economy have a chance of turning around. In the interim, the bleeding will continue.

At 1/27/2006 01:58:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

EHSANI2 ..Good analyses, I hope your predictions will come true. We all know Syria can't advances or move forward without getting rid of this regime forever..

At 1/27/2006 01:58:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

What an absurd logic EHSANI2 promoting. It shows the lack of sincerity and the ingenious deception and cunning of this poster that claims to be Syrian. But as other posters have mentioned, most likely a neocon underling Jew, working for the CIA or Mossad.

His twisted logic, does not show him to be inexperienced or politically not savvy, just a cunning con artists that sees his Syrian and Lebanese victims in the Judeo-Christian eye as gullible and stupid, the way George Bush and Company sees them.

He denies that he wanted to see the Americans Omaha Marines boys taken away from their loved one at home and be sent in harms way to free Syria and bring Democracy to Syrians, on orders issued not by the Commander in Chief in Washington but from the self appointed Elites in Israel Likud and the neocons in Washington.

He claims that he only wanted the pressure to be mounted, continued and intensified on President Assad, so that he can be forced or coerced into reform.

The cunning and deception in Ehsani2 demand is not fully observed by the emotionally and irrationally driven Syrian Oppositions. It is deceitfully packaged with relevant arguments, motives and end goals. When in fact a cursory analysis of these will prove that it is all nothing but a big lie. His argument ignore the following:

-The pressure excreted on Bashar is not only not to overthrow the regime, or even to destabilize it, but to force it to comply with Washington and Israel demands.

Those pressure demands has nothing to do with bringing freedom or democracy to Syria
And everything to do with giving up officially the Golan Heights, paying Three plus Billion Dollars of Saddam cash out to someone (few bucks for Iraqis for cover). Disarming Hizbullah, sending Syrian army to work under U.S. Occupation army, so the U.S. army will not be blamed for all bad deeds. Cutting relation with Iran and helping the U.S> in the fight against Iran. Arresting all Palestinian fighters and non-Israeli agent one, liquidating them and all those protecting the Palestinian refugee camps in Syria and Lebanon. Housing the Palestinian in Syria and Lebanon and closing all refugee camps. Cooperating with U.S. Petro plan for the region. And finally, after abandoning the rights to the Golan, making peace with the Zionist /Jewish enemy. Not only they don’t giva a damm about Syrians, but not even Iraqis or Lebanese interest either.

So here IHSANI2 is deceiving is all by saying that this pressure is an opportunity to force President Assad to reform. Who the fuck pressured him to do that in the first place? Bush? France? European? Asian? Arabs? Moslems?

Or do you think that if he to reform the neocon will actually let him do that. Even to forget about all those other pressure demand list they handed to him repeatedly though married of venues, including various Congressional delegations.

Have not President Assad proved that he does not bow to pressure! And rightly so, in the National interests of Syria. Didn’t his excellency released all the Damascus spring persons except the one that count the most and the one that met Washington Officials as a show that pressure do not work, and he do not give a dam about Washington pressure.

Has he not refused to work with Mehlis and this FONY U.N. Circus that they bill as investigation and refused to allow high level official to be interrogated, and rightly so, in the name of Syrian Sovereignty.

Has anyone in Washington or the worlds demanded reforms from him and his father at anytime in the past 36 years. Anyone ever demanded that he releases the political prisoners in the past 36 years other than the 3 time recently made by Washington after they felt embarrassed by the lack of demand and the brut list of demands that everyone knows it has nothing to do with the Syrians and everything to do with the fucking Jews interests.

In what way this investigation / Jews Pressure will get Assad to bend over. Assad and his government has a formidable WMD force and a strong kin-sect related man power than can put fear in Israel army, let alone a U.S Army that is incapable of winning a small conflict against Iraqi insurgent.

Considering all these facts, one can only assume that anyone that is begging for pressure on Assad is in fact begging for the list of Jewish demands that Washington Congressmen is handing President Assad out to be implemented and nothing else.

These Jewish demands including cooperation with this sham investigation into Mobster Hariri’s death are totally against the interests of Syrians, regardless if they are oppositions or not and against the Syrian National Interests.

We support President Assad in his steadfastness and are always ready to provide any aid required by us to protect Syria and Syrian National Interests.

A Jew name Ihsani2 barking all over the blog-sphere will not deter nationalist Syrians movement and parties, such as the Syrian Republican Party or the Syrian Nationalist Party or the Syrian-European nationalist Committee from standing side by side with President Assad in defense of Syria’s sovereignty and National interests, rights to the Golan and the Right of Return for the Palestinian People, despite the fact that these movement and the Baath party and its leadership are at odd over domestic policy and the political and economic goals for the Syrian Nation.

The Syrian Republican Party will object and will fight any attempt to have the President, his ministers or especially Mr. Asef Shawkat be investigated or their reputation violated
In anyway in the course of this Joke-Sham-Circus investigation by The imbecile at the United Nations, that are nothing but stooges and the Ranch hand of the Bush administration Petro-Zionist plotters.

At 1/27/2006 02:00:00 PM, Blogger Pascal said...

{{{{{{{ The Syrian Republican Party }}}}}}}}}


At 1/27/2006 02:05:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

All attempts to have bashar the President, his low life ministers or especially Head of the Mafia protections Mr. operation Shawkat be investigated or their reputation violated will be excreted. Time is up.
Got Milk !!

At 1/27/2006 02:06:00 PM, Blogger Pascal said...

Do they know as much good Arabic as they know Good English, those memebers of the "Syrian Republican Party"?

I bet DB is inventing those posters names with perfect grammar and great structural English they are using, "I RATHER BORN IHSANI2 JEW-DOG , ... ", and so on...hehhehehe

At 1/27/2006 02:10:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...


At 1/27/2006 02:11:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

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At 1/27/2006 02:12:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

Got Milk!
No we got guns, a lot of it

what the fuck you got other than your barking!

At 1/27/2006 02:16:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

Dude ..What's Bush talking about!!
the UN team has been doing a full investigation for over 7 months...!! Hummmm Come-on Mr Bush..

Bush calls for full probe of Hariri's killing
181 words
27 January 2006
WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 (Xinhua) -- U.S. President George W. Bush said on Friday that there should be a full investigation over the killing of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri and bring those responsible to justice.

"We expect there to be a full and firm investigation. The people who are responsible for your dad's death need to be held to account," Bush said during a meeting with Saad Hariri, the son of the slain former Lebanese prime minister and also the head of the majority bloc in Lebanon's parliament.

Moreover, Bush said a Lebanon that is "free of foreign influence, free of Syrian intimidation, free to chart its own course" remains a priority for the United States.

Bush also said they discussed putting together a global donor's conference to raise funds to help Lebanon, but he gave no specific date.

The United States has been accusing Syria of blocking the investigation to the murder case of Hariri. Syria has denied it has any links to the killing of Hariri.

Friday, January 27, 2006

At 1/27/2006 02:18:00 PM, Blogger ugarit said...


You're right about applying the constitution that Syria even has now. So how do the people make sure that the constitution is applied? How do we make the public and the government respect the constitution? I don't know the answer to these questions

BTW, where can I find the 1920 constitution online?

At 1/27/2006 02:20:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

you will soon say
BY OUR HEART, BY OUR SOULS WE WILL DEFEND YOU freedom, form the weak and cowards,
form the Assad Mafia and others like them.
freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom freedom
Got Milk !!

At 1/27/2006 02:24:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

Some ideot from my Arc-enemy Attasi clan said.

All attempts to have bashar the President, his low life ministers or especially Head of the Mafia protections Mr. operation Shawkat be investigated or their reputation violated will be excreted. Time is up....."

I have made my mind that this investigation is a Fraud and it is a mean to transgress on Syria's National interests and nothing else.

The gods of heaven can bark all they want, and order their attassis, Ehsannis and all mankind to bark. This investigation is going one way, and only one way, DOWN. The trasgression on Syrian National Interest are going one way, DOWN. Israeli attempt at igniting a Civil War in Lebanon and pushing Lebanon into surrogate of Israel rather than Syria is going one way and only one way, DOWN. IT IS FINAL

Keep on barking and tell your gods to keep on hawling.

At 1/27/2006 02:34:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Yeh Atassi dumb dude, you read this out the paper trash, but we got intelligence of what Bush Congressional delegations and other secret emessaries are saying to Bashar privately. Like "what do you care about the Syrian People, just supports aus and meet our demands and we will support you back uou up"

At 1/27/2006 02:40:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

Wishful thinking SRP.. Wishful.
It's in the final chapter of my book, Syria will not be harmed, Syria will be a proud, She will have a new wedding, Will sing and Dance ( Debbka for sure) .. New light will shin and the dark side and painful days will disappear forever.
Biladi Biladi Biladi . Syrian ( Sunni, Allwai, Christince, other.. ) will be one hand one nation

At 1/27/2006 02:40:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

"BTW, where can I find the 1920 constitution online?"

You can;t. I have the booklet in the English Language that I bought from a used books store, long ago. I don't even have it where I am located now, but I read it, and I have it where I store my books.

At 1/27/2006 02:46:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...


This was way too deep for me, and is way over my head. I am a simple man who loves his country. I am not smart enough to understand all this Iran, Hezbollah, Neocon, Golan, Lebanon, White House, Zionism, Africa and Scandinavia link. All I know is that my country has been living way below its potential for decades. All I know is the leadership of the country is in the hands of an incapable group of people that are driving us all over a cliff. They cannot get the Golan back EVER. They have not even capable of firing a single bullet in the direction of our stated enemy. When an Israeli plane recently invaded our airspace and came close to the heart of Damascus, how did our brave leader respond? Lay low and pretend it did not happen. Smart move, I give him that. This charade that we are fighting Israel and that we will the Golan back is a lie. Our previous leaders made a mistake, attacked, and lost miserably. Since then, generations have been asked to sacrifice everything in order to get back the land. 20 million people have to endure emergency laws, arrests, poverty and wasted chances to improve their standards of living, and for what?

As to your so-called intelligence sources, Colin Powel had reportedly mentioned this to Bashar and it was all over the news at the time.

At 1/27/2006 02:50:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

Yea. I bet Bashar believed the intelligence of what Bush Congressional delegations and other secret emissaries
right !!!.. They done the same trick with Saddam, Look at Saadam now !!
Got Milk !!

At 1/27/2006 02:51:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Oooohhh now that SRP shut your fucking deceptice mouse up. All the sudden you are a fucking simple man HA!!

Simple man my ass, more like a dumb shit lier that got caugt lying.

Still waiting for your fucking qualifications and now waiting for an answear about how Pressure of this U.N. investigation on Assad )taking into account the above) will bring reforma nd democracy to Syria and not just a huge loot
to your fucking jews.

At 1/27/2006 03:00:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

The way to get the Golan back is to strengthen our civil society, improve our economy, raise the standards of living of our people, improve our relations with our neighbors, start to earn the respect of the international community and change our overall direction. Only then sir will you have a chance to negotiate and get your land back. The current strategy and path you have been advocating has been a massive loser and will continue to drive us into the abyss. Cut your nonsense please. My qualifications and intellect far exceed yours, I humbly predict.

At 1/27/2006 03:17:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Oh ya, your qualified for sure.
Qulified for Master in Deception degree from Harvard, oh no YALE, that is where you learn to say things like "Read my Lips" there are no new taxes, and then shaft them.

Jews that are gobbeling up the whole planet and enslaving all it's residents into commerical numbered beast, that can not buy or sell said he that doen not have the mark, name or number of the beast, are just going to abandon the Golan Heights, which they already annexed and officially part of the Zionist state to have good relation with the Syrian people. If you belive this shit, then you are not just simple man, but ...

And how do you get to that Civil
Society from here? by supporting the Jews in bringing preasure on President Assad. Taking into account the information given to you above, how do you forsee this presure working to the advantage of this goal you aspire?

"Current strategy a massive looser" you mean Syrians got to loose more than the little we got left.

Why don't you stop thinking as a Jew for a second and start thinking as Syrians, you will understand and write better posts that does not look obvious that you are a Jew after Jewsih Zionist interests and nothing of the interests of Syrians aothern than empty deceptice fancy words.

At 1/27/2006 03:37:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I laugh when I read the word "Zionists".

I mean, if the Zionists planned anything, and did anything right to advance their long term plans in the ME, they couldn't have done any better than to plant those who keep the heads of the people down all of the time, oppressing them, and scaring them of "zionists" in a way that has drained the area's natural human and potential energies and resources. Wasting 66% of Syria's economy over 60 years just to fight this Zionism (not counting all of the commissions made by the few in the billions and billions of US dollars and deposited in Zionist Banks), in addition to the pittiful status of the countries in that area such as Syria in terms of developpment, education, freedom, etc...If zionists release these people from the sickness of "hating" them, they would do themselves a great misdeed and lose the battle for sure.

So, I personally do not hate zionists, nor zionism, but that should not stark a reaction and more plans by them and consider this as a potentially dangerous situation for their plans, for they know as much as I do that the regimes that are in the area will never relinquish their excuse of governing and oppressing their country men and women in the name of Zionism, and that these smart-idiot regimes will always make commissions from bying useless amrmements and wasting their human potential along with material wealth of their countries...anything else is deposited in their Swiss accounts.

God bless you Zionists.


At 1/27/2006 03:48:00 PM, Blogger said...

A Moron said:

"they couldn't have done any better than to plant those who keep the heads of the people down all of the time,"

They did just that. Who the hell brought these ME regimes to power, the ballot boxes? Who keeps this regimes in power, the people and the voting power? Who forgive these regime for such acts as killing 5000 kurds by nerve gas, starting a war killing 1 million soul, killing 80,000 in Hamma, and interfering in U.N. Murder investigation to gain on some of the demand they have given the killer, when they have said they know, and have evidense.

You see JAM, you answeared yourself, a brainless moron, that is ashame to Alawis

At 1/27/2006 03:56:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

At 1/27/2006 03:56:00 PM, Blogger Freedom For Syria said...

That is exactly the problem JAM. They are the one (Zionists) preventing teh Bush Administration from providing support to Syrian Oppositions. They kept this Assad regime for decades and are the one fighting so hard to keep it.

At 1/27/2006 04:06:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

They just want to keep it stable but weak. Very weak, so it can be apuppet regime, one that will do according to the Zionist will, submit to Jewish hegemony, and fulfil teh list of demands. That is why they fabricated all this nonesence U.N. Investigation and keep that as a threat over President Assad and his regime head as a threat. But in fact when they reliazed that he could be distabilized, they backed off and made a deal. Got quite.

Now, that President assad got smart, understood the game plan and relized that the people behind him, he stoped dealing and now they are threatning and barking again, awaile they are secretly trying to deal.

Unfortunatly to them, the game is clear. Everyone knows teh end game and that is why we all back President Assad.

At 1/27/2006 04:07:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Freedom For Syria;

So , how do you plan to win?

That is the question that needs a good answer. It is not enough to feel powerless in the face of their good planning, and their imposition of these regimes on the people.

At 1/27/2006 04:15:00 PM, Blogger Lebanese Pride said...

WHO the fuck is this panzee Syrian Republican Party prick?! I am surprised being syrian that he can even read and write, you fuckin monkey. Bashar (yes, that Bashar that you love) the fuckin FAGGOT is goign to rot in hell with his other syrian regime monkeys. And as usual you syrians talk a big fight ("Bashar by our heart and souls we will defend you bla bla")but when it comes down to it you will roll up in the corner shitting bricks. (maybe Landis will be there also since he's a pro syrian faggot like u) know it and i know it eventually the americans will bomb your dirty syrian asses and rid the world of scum like you and Bashar the rat, and other filthy syrians)

Go fuck yourself Syrian Republican Party, next time you think of your "wonderful syria" just think Iraq cuz syria will be the next iraq soon...moooo??!! LOL u f'n dumb syrians and FUCK JOSHUA LANDIS, DORK FAGGOT!


At 1/27/2006 04:42:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...


Ok I though about it as you suggested "Iraq"

400,000 Iraqis dead, 35,000 tortured and incarcerated, 9500 American dead 20,000 injured, the entire U.S. forces are stretched to the limit and the cost is nearing One 1 Trilion Dollar. They could have just used one of Orontes anti-personnel weapon and spent $3 on a dozen bullets to effect regime change and saved the remaining Trillion for Education, roads and job training in America.

In the meantime, Syria ridding high and strong, no one can touch it, Lebanon is still in Syria's Pride (thanks to Asef Shawkat), Jews can only stand and watch teh huge development from afar, not daring to step a foot inside, that will get the real power of Lebanon, no, not the faggot like you and your Christian army, I mean the real power "HIZBULLAH" the Shia pride of Lebanon. ANd to top it all, IRAN is getting the nuke soon. HURRAY Mother Fucker Lebanese Pride, Get back to what Lebanese like you are good at, the business of providing WHORES to the Arabian Bedouins.

At 1/27/2006 08:54:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...


The Palestinian branch of the MB has just won the elections. Everybody thought that Fatah would win.

The MB won the egyptian elections in the districts where it was allowed to present candidates.

The MB won in Jordan in the districts where it was allowed to present candidates.

So you dismiss the possibility of MB winning elections in Syria.

At 1/27/2006 08:56:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"So you dismiss the possibility of MB winning elections in Syria. "

And no, I don't think like Joshua. I am not afrait of an MB empowerment. If this is the price for throwing Assad to the lions, so be it.

At 1/27/2006 09:09:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"No one wants Washington to get involved. No one wants the U.N. to get involved. The call is for outsiders to leave us alone. Leave us to our own devices. Leave us so that we can continue sinking into our black holes. Leave us to manage our affairs by ourselves so that we can drive as many of our people as possible into poverty.

Ehsani, you cannot avoid an internationalization of the crisis because, well, the crisis between Lebanon and Syria is international by nature (because we always were and we will always be two different nations).

I understand that you want to avoid internationalization because it can destabilize Syria but it was Syria that brought this crisis on itself. internationalization is not something that can be changed, it's a fixed constraint.

Anyway, the Lebanese will continue to push for internationalization because we are too weak to negotiate with Syria from-little bro-to-big-psycho-sister. It's an efficient tactic that breaks the assymetry of power.

Internationalization is a very easy thing to achieve, we just have to shout our griefs in Paris, Washington, Riyadh and London. All these people dislike Bashar and are more than willing to instrumentalize Lebanon which is a good thing for once.

At 1/27/2006 09:25:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

WASHINGTON, DC, United States (UPI) -- A confidential Saudi report prepared just weeks before the Palestinian elections predicted a Hamas victory in Gaza and the West Bank and puts the blame on the United States: 'By failing to strengthen (President Mahmoud )Abbas`s position, the U.S. has paved the way for a Hamas victory,' states a document prepared by the Saudi National Security Assessment Project.

Are there anything that Washington can do right? Congrat to Hamas and smart supporters. It is no wonder why Iran is rapidly becoming the call card for many in the Middle East. Iran is for sure the new center of power in the region. All the U.S. care about now is how to bail out of the region.

At 1/27/2006 09:35:00 PM, Blogger why-discuss said...

LEBANESE PRIDE you should call yourself LEBANESE SHAME!, JOSEPH ALI MOHAMMED, you have to make up your mind if you are a jew, a christian, a shia or a sunni! Don't try to fool us with your ambiguous nickname!
If all you can say are vulgarities to hide your incapacity to answer as a decent educated person, then please shutup!

At 1/27/2006 09:52:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


Why-discuss aka DB, aka Criminal, claims that I am that Lebanese

what a bunch of amateurs trying to defeat me by equating me to new names every day.



I am happy that Hamas won. What do you expect from Palestinains who were given by force people to govern them who came from outside of the terrorories callling themselves socialists, and revolutionaries to act as superior to those locals, and to steal their resources and oppress their people?

Arafat and his people were not any different than Saddamists or Assadists. These people all came from poverty to a great wealth through revolutionary slogans calling for equality, socialism, etc...They have proven to be worthless human beings interested only in enricging themselves at the expensee of others. Those socialists who became the new billionaires despised other poor and refused to associate with them.

Islamists at least are more decentm though they may be a little fanatic in their understanding of the role of religion, but we should understand why Hamas won the elections and the corrupt arrafatists and communists billionaires lost.

I am happy at the results, and may be now peace has a better chance after all. We shall see.

At 1/27/2006 09:53:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

enricging = enriching


At 1/27/2006 10:05:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

أبدى الاخوان المسلمون في سوريا على لسان مراقبهم العام علي صدر الدين البيانوني استعدادهم لتقاسم السلطة مع الحركات المعارضة الأخرى في الحكومة المقبلة

Alhoukoomeh Almoukbeleh!! boy, this kurd Ghadri and the CIA really brainwashed this Mayeshi, MAheyoshi Yogi Bayanooni brain.

If there will be a Alhoukoomeh Almoukbleh, it will be that of Bashar Assad and the Nationalist coolitions, not someone that takes order from Washington and bound by his aleigance to Saudi Arabia. But only those that worship Syria and are devout Syrians not Moslem merceneries. Keep on dreaming Mahishi Yogi Bayanooni

At 1/27/2006 10:32:00 PM, Blogger Nur-al-Cubicle said...

The boyz can always be relied up for a raucous discussion on these threads.

At 1/27/2006 10:36:00 PM, Blogger Pascal said...

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At 1/27/2006 10:38:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

As an Alawi, I am looking forward to the day when the Muslim MBs take power in Syria, and bring back morality to its people and its rules of law.

we have had enough not only of ocrruption that is the way of life in Syria for the past 36 years, but also other moral standards are getting lower, and prostitution has become a disease in Syria, where people exploit other people using the sex industry.

MBs will help take Syria back to its glory days.


At 1/27/2006 10:48:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

The reasons why Zionist Plotters and the Americans support and hoping that the Moslem Brotherhood will someday (in a dream world by DESPERADOS) will actually rule in Syria, is so they can claim that Alqaida is in control of Syria and expand the war on terror to Syria. Another back door for teh Zionist to control Syria nd divided into oil parts and secterian parts. With the south portion given to Israel.

That they could not accomplish under the front door that is blocked by our stubburn President Bashar Assad. Not even the U.N. was able, nor will be able to move him around.

Another reason, is to trash Syria, by raging secterianism.

At 1/27/2006 11:28:00 PM, Blogger why-discuss said...

Joseph Ali Mohammed, I have not mistaken you for Lebanese Pride. My message was just adressed to both of you.
Thanks for informing us that you are an Alawi.

At 1/27/2006 11:44:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

"But Asad better not smirk too long, for the Hamas win also underscores what will happen to him should real elections be allowed in Syria."

To Josh and others who think that Hamas represents a simple victory of an Islamic party:

I think you really need to look into the details of this particular case here. Hamas is no MB---Hamas have incredible credibility as fighters of Israeli occupation. They have fought and they have suffered. They have martyrs in Sheik Yassin. They already run a successful string of charities.

And they ran their campaign lambasting Fatah on corruption and lack of any results/concessions from Israel. Add to that the surprise that Fatah felt and the motivation of Hamas activists to get out the vote and you get a huge Hamas victory. That does not so much signify a victory for Islamicist party in my view, but rather it is a rejection of corruption and cooperation with Israel.

So really I believe Hamas is a special case and cannot be generalized to MB in Syria. No way they are anything close to being similiar. hizballah may be a better comparison.

At 1/28/2006 12:20:00 AM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

Sometimes I really wonder why you waste your time responding to some of the idiots/idiotic comments on this site. I think you are a very valuable asset to Syria, and its a shame having you wasting your energy and time with such nonsense. Just my two cents.

Myself, I am saving time and energy by completely skipping idiotic commenters. This is easy to do using a simple mouse with a 'scrolling' mechanism. A couple of rolls of this scroller is all it takes. Its also pretty fun actually and gives my fingers some exercise as well. Just thought I might as well share this discovery with others. And if your mouse doesn't have a scroller, I think the resulting peace-of-mind it brings is definitely worth the $25 investment.

At 1/28/2006 12:23:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

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At 1/28/2006 12:24:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...


I am not happy that Hamas won, but I am very happy that Fatah was screwed.

Now Hamas will screw the Palestinians and in 5 to 10 years, Palestinian will have had enough and begin to consider voting for a democratic alternative that will be neither Hamas nor Fatah.

At 1/28/2006 12:32:00 AM, Blogger ActiveListener said...

“Jews that are gobbeling up the whole planet and enslaving all it's residents into commerical numbered beast...” SRP

I really laugh when I read things like this. Yes, go on tell us the Jews are so unbeatably brilliant, successful and mighty, they have the world paralysed in awe, with anyone opposing them left eating their dust. They can do magic... they win by cheating, sneaking and hypnosis. The evidence is everywhere. Even here –if anybody writes anything sophisticated and original in this comments section, well then, that proves they must be Mossad. Never a Syrian, no way! Surely a real Syrian must only think and write like SRP.

You read statements like SRP and co and you see who is paralysed in awe, who believes and spreads the propaganda that the “Zionists” are all-powerful and invincible, who chooses to bark furiously in an echo chamber and chase their own tails until they fall down exhausted, then stagger up and spend all their energy and resources, turbopowered by hatred, chasing their tails again.

Meanwhile out there in the real world Israel’s supporters never miss a chance to push at every front door, back door and window they can, relentlessly lobbying, publicizing and tirelessly strategizing to persuade everyone and anyone to support their cause.

SRP team, ever thought of pulling your heads out of the echo chamber, studying the way they do things and trying it yourself to see if it pays off?

At 1/28/2006 12:35:00 AM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...


I admire your compassion for the palestinian people. The same goes for the Syrian people.

But here's a scenerio. Hamas is saying it wants to take care of the people before dealing with Israel. What if Hamas proves not to be corrupt and installs a government of technocrats? (yes muslims can be efficient and the roster of Hamas includes many prominent professionals) What if Hamas gets the job done well?

I myself am happy Hamas won so that it forces Fatah to modernize and reform itself. And I am counting down the days for Marwan Barghouti to be released to lead back the Palestinian people. But I think Hamas may surprise a lot of people with their ability to get things done. I welcome that since I think the Palestinians have been 'screwed' enough over the years. I hope the Hamas victory does not cause more suffering for them.

At 1/28/2006 12:47:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...


Amen, people here are going crazy with paranoia and insults. We really do deserver democracy...

and according to JAM, I just told myself to shut up (courtesy of Innocent Criminal, WTF?)

At 1/28/2006 12:52:00 AM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

DB, I agree with many of your sentiments and well-spoken words--Must be the fine California air and UC education. Ignoring is the best policy, but we need to remember it only works best in the long run and when you actually don't even read idiot commenters, lest you are tempted to respond.

So anyway, keep up the quality comments. The same applies to idaf and activelistener as well--other commenters whose comments I look forward to.

At 1/28/2006 01:54:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

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At 1/28/2006 02:03:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

Thanks EngChange, Ehsani, ActiveListener, Idaf and Vox(Sometimes) for posting some very good comments most of the time. Keep it up and try to lower the noise/signal ratio here.

Of course, the crazies will now accuse me of being all of the above. c'est la vie.

At 1/28/2006 02:04:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...


1°Hamas has almost no technocrats, this is already a big problem for a party who wants to govern a people

2°The AP funding comes mainly from international donors such as the US and the EU, and both consider Hamas to be a terrorist organization. I wonder if they are going to finance an organization that they consider to be terrorist.

The rest of the financing comes from Palestinian taxes that are collected by Israel and givent back to the PA. Israel will problably block this money now. It is quasi-certain that the result is going to affect the PA's income. So even if Hamas actually wanted to help the people, well there's no money to do that.

3°Even if there was money, I remind you that the Palestinian are under occupation and that the AP needs an Israeli authorization, even for the most trivial projection. The Israeli government already anounced that it was going to freeze cooperation, so basically, Hamas will not even be able to grow flowers on the street.

So no, I don't think that the Hamas is going to improve the situation of the Palestinian. I think that this vote is sterile and that the Palestinians are going to suffer even more because of it.

It's not that I blame the Palestinians for their stupid choice. I mean they had to chose between islamic terrorists and corrupt thiefs. Stupid choices lead to stupid answers.

By the way, Hamas' program included the reestablishment of the jizya on the people of the book, aka Palestinian Christians because the Israelis aren't likely to accept any Islamic protection. Hamas added the jizya to their program because they are demagogist like the Hezbollah and didn't expect the Palestinians to be stupid enough and vote for them. But now that they have won, I am curious to know if they are going to apply their program or if they are going to expose themselves as typical politicians who make empty promises. I am really happy about this Jizya thing because, of all the Christian communities in the Middle East, Palestinian Christians were the one who fought the most for this stupid Arab nationalist cause. Maybe that these Christians dhimmi will finally in understand that they can lick as much Arabist ass as they want, but in the end it won't change shit for them. I do pity them, even though they deserve their fate. They bet on the wrong horse.

At 1/28/2006 03:29:00 AM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...


Before your last paragraph you make valid points. Israel and the US may very well try to sabatoge the Hamas-led government if for any reason to simply prove that Islamistist governments do not work. I wonder out loud whether Israeli leaders had this in their plan all along. Let Hamas run for elections, let Palestine become the enemy in the eyes of the West aka Political Islam, then the US would back off Israel. Its a bit far-fetched but who knows.

But there is a flip side to this. "Hamas may form technocrat gov't to relieve int'l pressure"
There will be many competent people very willing to get a chance to get things done for an honest governement. People like
Saadeh Shalabi. Muslims all around will give money to a Hamas government to prove that an Islamic led government CAN work. To prove that Saudi and Iran are not examples of Islamic governments, they are only examples of mistakes. Indeed, this vote is truly historic .

So again I think Hamas will surprise many including you. They will find a way I think. I could very well be wrong, Israel can easily provoke Hamas and all hell could break loose as a result, but only time will tell.

The funny thing is that Damascus now hosts THE legitimate Palestinian representative. And now Syria has greatly increased its sway on the Israel/Palestine conflict. Add another card in Syria's deck. It seems Bashar's stubborn refusal to back down from America's demand to kick out Hamad will pay off. Bashar now will have Khaled Mashal on speed dial for sure now. Bashar should be given some credit for this foreign policy victory as Palestine has now officially entered the Syria sphere of influence.

Your last paragraph is your usual anti-muslim bigotry that I have come to expect. Its become quite common in the US, so it doesn't really surprise me much. So I to put it lightly, I don't agree with a single thing with your last paragraph. I will leave it at that.

At 1/28/2006 03:54:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"Israel and the US may very well try to sabatoge the Hamas-led government if for any reason to simply prove that Islamistist governments do not work. "

Israel and the US won't have to do anything. From the Saudis to the Iranians, Islamist governments have a well-documented history of failure.

" I wonder out loud whether Israeli leaders had this in their plan all along. Let Hamas run for elections"

That's the best joke ever. Israel hesitated for months before letting the Hamas participate, only because Abbas threatened to cancel the elections and the polls said that the Fatah would win. Your explanation is typically Arab: when your ashamed by Arab behavious, invent a conspiracy theory that will put the blame on somebody else (in this case: the US).

"Muslims all around will give money to a Hamas government to prove that an Islamic led government CAN work."

This is what the Hamas is trying to sell to its voter but this allegation is seriously flawed. Arab governments promise and promise money, but the truth is that less 10% of the promised sums have been delivered to the Palestinians. Unless the Arabs change their behaviour (LOL) the PA will have to rely on Western funding.

And there's nothing wrong in my lass paragraph by the way. I say that people in the Hamas are talking about imposing the jizya and you say that I am an anti-Muslim bigot? That is so lame.

But it's better to have a Hamas majority than a strong Hamas minority. Let's see how they can handle the situation. Fatah seems to oppose a coalition government, they don't want to be Hamas' political cover.

At 1/28/2006 05:21:00 AM, Blogger t_desco said...

The US is trying to impose de facto economic sanctions on Syria. Why wait for the UN Security Council if you can bully other countries?

U.S. tells India to back off Syria oil deal

NEW DELHI: Taking strong exception to India's recent decision to buy a Syrian oilfield in partnership with China, the United States has asked the Manmohan Singh Government to "reconsider" its proposed investment.

A demarche to this effect was made earlier this month and an aide memoire outlining Washington's objections handed over to the Ministry of External Affairs by senior diplomats here.

The U.S. aide memoire, a copy of which is in the possession of The Hindu, says: "The United States strongly opposes such investments in Syrian resources."
The Hindu

At 1/28/2006 05:23:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

EngChange brings up a very important point which eludes many: the PA is now and all of the sudden, a very close ally of Syria with many of its leadership actually residing in Damascus. This is indeed a victory for Syria in a way.

The Syrians lost a lot of influence on the Lebanese track in their negotiations with Israel, but they've gained the more important Palestinian track. This completely changes the balance of power in the region, and could possibly lead to the Israelis finally agreeing to negotiate seriously with Syria.

At 1/28/2006 06:48:00 AM, Blogger Abu Kais said...

For a commentary on this commentary, go here.

At 1/28/2006 08:03:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...


I did waste a lot of time in the past. My goal was to expose the complete idiotic and embarrassing comments by few people on this post. Having said this, the vast majority of participant here are clearly very thoughtful and intelligent.

I will promise to save my energy from now on and restrict my discussion to issues of substance. Scrolling is on. Wasting time is out.

At 1/28/2006 08:15:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 1/28/2006 08:22:00 AM, Blogger t_desco said...

Is Brammertz going to sign a memorandum of understanding in Damascus?

De sources officielles syriennes, on indique que le chef de la commission d’enquête internationale sur l’assassinat de Rafic Hariri, le juge Serge Brammertz, devrait se rendre très prochainement à Damas. L’objectif de cette visite, selon ces mêmes sources, est de signer un protocole de coopération avec les autorités syriennes. On sait cependant que la communauté internationale, notamment les États-Unis, est opposée à la signature d’un tel accord entre la Syrie et la commission Brammertz, estimant que Damas n’a qu’à se conformer aux textes des résolutions internationales la sommant de coopérer sans condition avec les enquêteurs de l’ONU.
L'Orient-Le Jour

A few days ago, the Daily Star had reported that Brammertz refused to sign such a memorandum:

Damascus had declared more than once that it will cooperate with the UN probe, but holds on to the condition that Brammertz signs a memorandum of understanding with Syria, which would limit the jurisdiction of the international investigations.

The sources ruled out the possibility that Brammertz would sign such a memorandum "because he sees that there is a UN Security Council resolution [1636] which is clear about Syria's role and its obligation to extend full cooperation to the UN probe."
Daily Star

At 1/28/2006 09:07:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Kais chose to respond to Josh and his Baathy students, by writing his reply in his own blog, and I find that wonderful.., and also find his comments to be very worthy. Keep it up, Kais.

One can not but notice how the (known) 5 posters above always and without exception come at the same time, and --- one of the first thing they do is to circulate their praises to each other and make themselves "credible" to the innocent ( may be not that innocent) readers.

They are now looking at how the corrupt Arrafatists who were enemies to the corrupt Assadists in the past have now become allied, and considered that to be victory to Syria (Assad)..LOL, what can one do when the choices offered him are so limited, between two dvils? The two devils in this instance, the Arraftists and Hamas are both supported by Assad, the bigger devil!

Like it is really "written" that the Arab nation(s) will, for ever suffer, and the ones who seem "most educated", and better users of "English" are in fact the biggest cause for this 'for ever' sufferings of the poor uneducated Arabs. I see some of these "most Educated", and "best English users" such as DB still insist on defending the dictatorship in Syria, and the thugs in the Pleastinain territories, but of course I know why as do most oppressed Arab people. The so called "Elites" belong to the class of thieves that has every thing under its nose to pursue haigher education, and to spend the trillions of dollars the Arab oil has produced for them alone.

Saudi Arabia, being the leader of those thugs, from Syria to Moroco, is rich beyond reason, and its wealth, divided among the Royal fanily and the few servants to them in it and around the Arab world spends good money to maintain the defense of the thugs all over the Arab world. If there is anything I like about the Neocons in the US, it is that they have figured out the right equation, and that is to liberate the world from the danger of terrorism by bringing democracy to those areas dominated by Saudi Arabia. the problem is, how ever, is that brining democracy to a part of the world that has for long been corrupted where even a "visitor" who spent one year there, and got married with a local belonging to that "elite" class, can not resist the bribes offered to him by the servants of the Saudi Royal Family, and became the hardest defender of them all to keep the status quo.

It is a problem among the "elites". Elites that would have been NOTHING had it not been for this Special Education they have been given by that Corrupt stolen money from the Saudi people themselves or the Syrian in our case.

Yes, the people are turning to Islamic ideologies to protect themselves against money, power, and those "elites", but what else can the poor people do? The only alternative to the corrupt long standing thugs of the Saudis, the Assadists, and so on is being the Ben Laden Ideology of suicide bombings, to kill and be killed, and people choose it because they know they are being killed anyway, so they think that taking some one else with them is the only thing they can do to respond to the ones who forced them to choose that alternative in the first place.

May the almighty God bless the Neocons in their Just quest to liberate the Arab world!!!


At 1/28/2006 09:12:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Nationalism Eternally said...

Like the Syrian Say:
Al jamal elli fi berakbtou messelleh btenaarou.

That was for those jews: Ehsai, Active listner and Engineering change, hey dim witted jew EC, you will need to go back to the drawing board and quickly sketch out new blue prints for the Middle East other than the one misrably failed. This time get less high on dope and come up with a real world sketch, one that take Iran, the new powerhouse of the Middle East and the preimminent regional, military and economic power into account.

Forget about this miniscule COMATOSE HAARETZ ISREAEL.
This whole in the dirt, the one that has the record of having the lowest point on earth (approprietly so, considering the morality of its people and god YEHWE) got no chance of making it past 2025 dude. HAMAS will slowley, but surely run it over, yard by yard, until they squeexe the life of teh last Jew in Palastine. Why can't you and your buddies ignorant ideots see that?

At 1/28/2006 09:16:00 AM, Blogger ugarit said...

Let's assume for a moment that the US' foreign policy in the ME is actually based on rational thought.

The facts:
Iraq - Islamist state via elections
Palestine - Islamist state via elections
Jordan - Significant Islamist power due to election results
Egypt - Significant Islamist power due to election results
Lebanon - Seamingly secular but moderno-tribal
Syria - Seamingly secular but run by a weakening authoretarian regime

What should the US and the EU do?

Help Lebanon and Syria reconcile and promote their fragile secularism.

What should democracy seeking and secularist Syrians and Lebanese do?

Pressure their governments to reconcile and to democratize

But yet again GWB and Co. are not rational.

At 1/28/2006 09:29:00 AM, Blogger I rather born Syrian or a dog said...

Yep, in 2025 it will be called officially (Southern Syria), and Palestine will finally join the union of Fertile Crescent States, headed of course by our King Bashar Assad and his Visroy Asef Shawkat.

All the Jews will be in COMA. What is his name that Jewish Prophet, I think it is ISEA or naybe another said : "Behold I saw the new Jerusalem, and a new sky, and a new constallation of stars in the sky and in it dwell the remenant of Israel that were raptured by the Lord YEHWE"

So dude here is the short end of this story: Jerusalem is going to be on another planet man, and the Alien that used Jews to accomplish the dasderly deed on mankind will come here and pick up 12,000 from each Hebrew tribe (except DAN) and cargo ship them to a new Jerusalem, somewhere in the fucking gallaxy. YEP, they gonna fuck up another planet, after they trash this one.

Dude, That is in your Bible, Christian and Hebrew, so don't call me insane and nut.

At 1/28/2006 09:30:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

I have long come to the conclusion that barring a miraculous turnaround in our people’s standards of living, Islam will continue to make huge inroads into our societies. The banner of “Islam is the solution” during the Egypt election is a case in point. As long as economies falter and people grow more desperate, Islamists will fill the void. The people of the Middle East will be led to believe that if only if they were to adopt political Islam, they will be able to turn their lives around and put an end to the embarrassing state of affairs that they find themselves in. This is a race. It is a race between liberals who need to cease power and the moment by embarking on bold programs of free markets that convinces the populace of better days ahead and Islamists who want you to believe that Islam is the only solution. I am going to assume the worst and hope for the best. My assumption is that the Middle East will follow the Islamists. Perhaps this is an inevitable step that we must go through. Iran is 30-40 years ahead of us. They wanted to try Islam. They did. The day will come when they officially realize that this was one big mistake. When that day comes, Iran would have turned the corner. The country would be in the frame of mind of “been there, done that and it does not work”. The Palestinian elections show that the Palestinian people are now ready to conduct the same experiment. Now the Islamists have to deliver not just promise dreams. My suspicion is that they will fail miserably. Societies in the Middle East will conduct those experiments one by one. Regrettably, they would have wasted 40-50 years before they conclude that this was a very dumb mistake. Free marketers and liberals have their work cut out for them. America and the west need to understand how critical it is to ensure that they succeed. America must only support regimes that can deliver economic growth rates of 6% and over. They must support them with everything they can. The long-term benefits to the region will be enormous. I suspect that America understands this. In spite of the all skepticism by many on this forum, I do believe that America has understood that this region was/is heading into the abyss. Somebody must do something about it. I know that the CD of Israel and the Neocons will immediately start to play in many heads once they read this. Cries of America the Satan that hates the Arabs and want their demise will be the immediate response. I say enough. Let us stop the blame game. Let is look at us in the mirror. Let us admit that our leaders have failed us. America did condone them in the past and did turn a blind eye. The world has changed now. America has realized that the Middle East cannot be left to its devices. It has realized that leaders that push their population into despair and poverty is not a solution that can be tolerated any longer.

The race is on.

At 1/28/2006 09:35:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

One thing I laugh most about is when a poster pretends to have the facts and write it down in the "undisputable" form like this:

The facts:

yeah yeah...the facts contain in them one big fact: "Th esyrian regime is """sucular""" while the Saudi for example, "is not".. LOL

Like any one of these regimes gives a shit about Secularism or Religiousness!!

Like it is really that the arab problem is such: "secularism" versus "Religiousnism"!!! who are you trying to fool but yourselves when you present the fundemuntally a prblem of equity and justice to be that of "Religionism" and "secularism"?

For both sides laugh at you and the Arab people, and both sides (The Saudi religionsts??? hahaha), and the Assadists (Secularists hahah) are one and serving the same master any way!!!


At 1/28/2006 09:55:00 AM, Blogger The Rise of The Beast Amen / Marduk said...

Well DAN is only one that got brain out all the Jews. The rest are dumb shit that are chosen, manipulated and used by the ELOHIM (EL) chosen to carry out a dastardly plan on mankind to enslave and number them as ADA MU (Primitive Worker). That is why when the Hebrew tribes started taking census and statistics, numbering the livestock, someone got upset and send a space ship to kill all, telling the Hebrew leader that this is GOD property and that you have no right to number people and animal, they are not your property. That is also the reason Jews were numbered in Auschwitz and other concentration camps, but it look like they never learned from that experience anything.

P.S. look up your bible for names and event detail please.

At 1/28/2006 10:07:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

A heavy dose of brain washing from EHSANI, he did not need to sign his post, his CD is well heard over and over again. He come here and play his CIA/Mossad supplied CD to counter the irrefutable case about the truth. His song is the same and he sing it in fresh voice every day, usually after long meetings with his boss and experts, who aids him and compose the new lyrics and keep the same tune: (the real problem in the Middle East are Islam and dictatorships, bad Arab ruler, not Jews and not Israel. Then he presents himself as Syrians or Arabs and confirms that it is (WE) the Arab or Syrians that are at fault, we are bad.

At 1/28/2006 10:29:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

An Alawite idiot said: ( yes this sect got 4 or 5 of them, personally I don't know of any, except JAM, but one has to account for Mathematical probabilities).

The idiot said:

"....May the almighty God bless the Neocons in their Just quest to liberate the Arab world!!!......"

First I want to ask, did you get paid by EHSANI or his agent to say that. Second, you really think the neocon artists are after liberating the Arab World? they are after creating a greater Israel. Show me one evidence that you know about as a fact, other than rhetoric’s that they really wants to liberate the Arab World. Idiot, that was just a scam flag they raised while invading Iraq, they left that flag on the first Iraqi oil field they ceased and start dancing with the Saudis lovers and business partners.

Here is a link for dumb people like you to read about Iraq oil:

At 1/28/2006 10:50:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Just look at that chart pie, and you know why the U.S. and U.K. gone to war and killed all those people on both sides. They chosen Iraq because it is a strategic area, not only it has the world's second largest reserves, but it sits smack in the middle of the whole region or Arabia and Iran.

So dumb Alawi #1-5.. JAM, glad U used those dumb people names for ya than something a smart Alawite will use like “KHODR”, a smart and well enlightened Ancient Syrian spiritual man with a quite history behind him and so much visions he had for genuine spiritual living for mankind, not a fake alien inspired shit like those u used the names thereof.

Look at that chart pie and see the combined Saudi, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE and Venezuela reserves. Now you understand better why there is a conflict called Iran, Iraq, Venezuela and SEP11, you dumb shit. That fucker Bin Ladin was operating right under the U.S. Intelligence Agencies eyes, you moron. He was financed for decades by the CIA and watched like a hawk by Mossad. You believe that he contrived that plan for years and executed without anyone knowing about it. Idiot. I doubt he conceived the plan, I will be looking for a mole that did.

IT IS OIL AND NOTHING ELSE. And when you understand the relation between the financial situations of various countries and oil, you will understand that this is even more important than Nuclear weapon to them. They supplied Saddam with all the WMD, that is not something they giva a fuck about. And they allowed Israel, China, India and Pakistan among many others to have Nuclear weapons without any fuss, that is also is not threat to them, because they have the largest arsenal, only a fool and mentally insane will consider dropping one or a dozen, on the United States, risking getting a single warhead carrying 12 of them.

That is all smoke screens, a cause to rally the public. The real goal, is control of oil.

At 1/28/2006 11:04:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 1/28/2006 11:09:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

You crack me up!!

That was the funniest post I have read on this blog!

Hey you, SRP..and all of the magic ungramtaical names; Bashar Assad is Alawi too, didn't you know?

I bet you are working for the Mukhabarat as your other friends who you attack and call Zionists for both of you try hard to defend the Assad regime.

But frankly, your last post was so funny that I was laughing so loud!

Keep it up, SRPPP.


Imagine, just imagine what a fool I might have been when just prior to 2 Months Ago, I thought you were against the Assad Regime and thought we were on the same side, imagine that I confided in you and gave you information about myself!

How glad that this didn;t happen, but frankly: I have experience with Syrians like you, who change so abruptly from one position to another, based on a sudden finanicial offer they get...., or a position the regime offers them!

Wasn't that the main reason how Hafez Assad uncovered all of his those who were thinking of organizing to topple his regime? No one trusts any one, because, and we have see that few times: Syrians switch sides with the speed of light!

Have a wonderful baathy day!

At 1/28/2006 11:32:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

One of the courses required for extensive study by SSPRS T&I members and higher ranking is 30 pages document-class about How to be like an American Politician and Pentagon Spokesman.

We study very carefully hundreds of video footages and statement and learn, practice how you could stand up in front of a Billion people and say to them with a straight and sincere face:

"I NEVER HAD SEX WITH THAT WOMAN" I was just shoving a cigar up her juicy pussy, and that is not sex, that is a mechanical movement.

Or "READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES" and then bang it to them saying that this is not new taxes, this was old taxes.

And the list go on....war on terror and all, till you get to the one you, the stupid Alawites, a unique Alawi man, one of Six dumb Alawites in the world, or even perhaps the only one around, that the NEOCON SCAM ARTISTS are going to liberate the ARAB world.
No JAM, I hate that fucking name JAM, reminds me with things I despise. I will call you KHODR from now on. KHODR, being a vegetarian, he is my prophet, and he is Syrian.

You see KHODR, you need to get a political science books from YALE and read about how they prepares you to be able to stand up straight face and tell a big lie, be loved for it and forgiven, and have millions elect you and worship you.

The problem with President Bashar Assad, is he is too straight forward, honest man, never studied political science at Yale, and never been members of the SCULL and BONE SECRET SOCIETY. Naturally, everything he does, comes out abrasives.
In my case, I studied the shit and despise it, in fact rebel against it and that is why me too is very abrasive in my conduct.

At 1/28/2006 11:45:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

So, when it comes to "democracy", those who shout the loudest for spreading it seem at loss with words, and plenty of actions to fight its results when it does not suit them. We have seen how a democratically elected group in Algeria was overturned and the elections declared invalid, with the "silence" of the rest of the world, and more than a decade of killings afterward to keep the status quo on, and we have seen this elsewhere, and particularly in Syria where the fear of Islamists win makes those 'democracy lovers" scared to death and becoming more supportive of thugs in a cruel regime, that of Bashar Assad. Now, the world is turning to the Palestinians where elections were observed and declared clean, and the people have voted for an Islamist party. We are seeing now the nervousness of all 'democracy lovers', and the thugs of the PLO carrying arms and threatening to beat up or beat down the results of this election.

Those PLO members holding arms in the most disgusting way are not considered terrorists any more since Arafat made his famous Oslo deal. Now the "democracy lovers" want those thugs to win and are sad that they did not win, and I will bet you that the 'dmocracy lovers' will support the thugs in the PLO to use force and change the results of the Elctions as what had happened in algeria before.

What the world really needs is consistency, holding up human principles to a higher degree...we need human beings to evolve away from narrow special interests and see that we are all brothers and siisters, and that our life and fate are one. Let us all enjoy the short life we all have to live, and at the end we shall all die, of course, each one of us dies and whether he/she has lived so luxuriously or so poorly that at the end this will all be meaningless even when there is not an after life.

We shall all be equal in death, anyway,... but criminals and thugs think that this short life is evrything and also that it is worth destroying others for their own prosperity. Let them know that all of this is just a mirage for they too and their luxury will be gone to no return.


At 1/28/2006 12:08:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Mr. Haddad, we are not agents for President Assad and for sure the number one hater of Baathism, Socialism and Arab Nationalism.

In fact we know exactly were you are, but don't worry, we will not send a report to Damascus and you can be sure that not even that geeky Ambassador of Bashar will ever accept our calls.

We have explained to you and others, that we are neither pro-nor con for Bashar Assad as a President. It makes no difference to us if Bashar got elected as President. We would much rather have him as President than a Sunni Moslem like Khaddam, Atassi, Shihabi and others. Why are you not appreciating our honesty and straight forwardness?

Do you wants us to run a YALE routine on ya?

The neocons and their Israeli masters changed the game plan. So we changed our game plan accordingly, it is that simple. We are committed to bringing economic, social and political development to Syria and the Fertile Crescent Region, they are committed to destroy our countries just like they did in Iraq.

If Bashar Assad feels that he wants the same future for Syria as the one we aspire, so we will join him. Being Alawites means a shit to us, he could be even Green colored skin, having bright purple long hair and 5 yellow eyes.

You can go ahead and listen to the YALE GRADS CD’s of Ehsani and company. Get cheated, lied to, conned and fooled big time or you can take our straight word for it.
We have evaluated and digested thousands of report for you and came up with a reliable strategy. NEVER EVER TRUST THE WESTERN POWERS ANYMORE, EVER, EVER. NEVER TRUST JEWS, NEVER TRUST A YALE GARD.

Hamas, understood this long time ago, and they are the winners.

We listened to Baathists CD’s in our youth, thinking this is all brain washing, how disappointing to find out in your 50’s after living in America, befriending Jews and believing in W, that the Baathist CD’s were really the truth. They got it right all the way back in the 50’s. Jews, Israel and it’s Petro-Zionist masters are the real problems to our Middle East countries.

Your opinion simply don’t matter.

At 1/28/2006 12:26:00 PM, Blogger Alawites for Syria said...

بغداد (رويترز): قالت الشرطة ان مسلحين قتلوا أكاديميا عراقيا بارزا ومحللا سياسيا بالرصاص في سيارته في أحد شوارع العاصمة العراقية بغداد اليوم. وأضافت الشرطة أن عبد الرزاق النعاس وهو وجه مألوف على قناة الجزيرة الفضائية القطرية كان قد غادر للتو مكتبه بكلية الاعلام في جامعة بغداد وسط العاصمة العراقية. واعترض مسلحون سيارته بسيارتهم ثم فتحوا النار ليقتلوه في الحال.

وكثيرا ما ندد الاكاديمي العراقي الذي ينتمي للعرب السنة باستمرار وجود القوات الأمريكية في العراق وانتقد الحكومة التي يهيمن عليها الشيعة والاكراد قائلا انها غير قادرة على ادارة البلاد. وقالت جبهة التوافق العراقية أكبر تجمع سياسي للعرب السنة في العراق ان النعاس دفع ثمن مواقفه المشرفة.

Now we get EHSANI2 playing his cd that Shiat Iraqis did this killing.

At 1/28/2006 12:27:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

Ehsani you may be right. I am probaly biased because I hope you will be wrong, that countries will learn from the mistakes of Iran and Saudi rather than repeat them. The simple reality is that there is no uniting force in the middle east as strong as Islam. And a united Middle East in my mind is a strong and prosperous middle east. Do I dare dream of an Arab Union (AU) in the mold of the current European Union (EU)? Maybe this is just wishful thinking.

And I agree the vast majority of commenters do give very thoughtful and useful comments, that provoke different ways of thinking and expand a person's horizons. It is only a few people on this forum that just don't get it. So I commend all the people that give respectful and insightful comments, not just the ones I named. I apologize if I implied otherwise.

At 1/28/2006 12:40:00 PM, Blogger Alawites for Syria said...

YEP There are just few posters here that just don't want you to get it. And we will name them: EHSANI2 otherwise known by his real name EHUD ZIONSTIEN, ENGENEERING A ZIONIST CHANGE and the ACTIVE SPYWARE LISTNER.

At 1/28/2006 01:03:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

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At 1/28/2006 01:08:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

The Palestinian elections showed that for the first time since World War II, a governing Arab party was willing to give up power as a result of a free election. We have to congratulate the Palestinian people for this significant step that would hopefully act as a precedent for the rest of the Arab world. Moreover, I believe that the Hamas victory is not alarming at all. Now that they are in power, it has an obligation to the Palestinian people. When rebellion leaders do assume power, the situation normalizes. Hamas has two wings. One is a domestic one and the other is a political leadership based in Syria and influenced by Iran. If the local wing wins the inevitable power struggle, an ultimate settlement with Israel is not impossible. Just as I said in my previous post, the onus is now on the U.S. to support and push this emerging move towards democracy in the Arab world. The onus is also on the new democratically elected governments to improve the lives of their people and to reinforce their security. These are the issues that Hamas and all future democratically elected models will have to confront and address. The west and the U.S. should remain involved and provide as much help as they can. The region will sure need every bit of it as it marches forward.

At 1/28/2006 01:48:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...


I was singing one of EHSANI2 CD’s, well his lyrics are a bit different but the fucking CD still plays this EHSANI guppy, hippy songs.

DUDE EHSANI2, HAMAS is committed like Syria and Iran, so as the majority of Moslems populace to one goal, the ultimate slow destruction of the Zionist dream. And to slowly liberate all of Palestine and install an Islamic state by 2025. And they are winning, they never compromised a bit. Occupation of Iraq does not change a shit, as those dumb Zionists think. No one is going to change and no one is going to bargain.

Sure, if it helps you psyche, go on believing in this split between the regional and political leadership. I understand the trauma you are facing as a faithful Zionist.

Keep on Dreaming…Keep on Dreaming…Keep on Dreaming.

At 1/28/2006 02:03:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Hamas will not change its charter in a hurry. It will take time. The IRA took a long time, and so did Fatah. What is important is that Hamas is now in control. They cannot blame others for not delivering. The ball is now in their control. They will soon realize that it is easier to criticize than govern. It will take time to craft a new vision that will fulfill the aspirations of their people. The process has to play itself out. The rest of the world can do nothing but wait patiently.

At 1/28/2006 02:04:00 PM, Blogger majedkhaldoon said...

The Freedom ,as I believe in it, is defined by(you are free to do anything you want, as long as it will not hurt other people) this mean that there is limitation on freedom, a man or woman is not free to kill other person, this definition is accepted by everybody, this limitation is reasonable,correct socialy and religously, so there has to be limitation on freedom, when a news paper hurts the people in Saudia arabiaor in Syria, they have exceeded their freedom, this is not the freedom that should be allowed in any country, no one is allowed to kill,steal,rape or write in the newspaper, what can hurt other people, and Denmark must do something about that paper, which must be brought to justice .

At 1/28/2006 02:15:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

I think I will eat red meat and eggs before you can convince Hamas to recognize the State of Israel. What a fucking joke this optimists are. Sure they will lessen the blow initially, to soften the reaction and comfort the other parties, to get the recognitions, and what have you, any smart leader will take this highway initially as a smart plan. But they will be secretly drawing up with Syria’s and Iran’s help the new master plan. These are ideologue religious fanatics (no disrespect is intended) who are willing to strap bomb belts and martyrs themselves for the cause, these are not one of the Western corrupt Arab thugs like King Abdullah, Mubarak or Billionaire Arafat. They are after Jerusalem free of Jews, not Palestinian treasury free of cash as the PLO goal was.

It is time for the Jew to start packing, they lost big, they blew it in Washington and Tel Aviv. The year 2025 is very realistic time for the handing over of Palestine to Arabs, when the last departing Jew boards the last EL AL plain to Austria and the United States. Well, those lucky 144,000 will boards the last Flying Saucer departing earth, before the four angles unseal the seals. Lucky, because they get a new lease on life in a new heaven and a New Jerusalem, those migrating to the States will be perished then by rising Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups.

So many mistakes, awful, just awful, man never learns anything from the past. Keep taking the same course of action that will lead to his demise, despite repeated warnings.

At 1/28/2006 02:31:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

As usual the Agha is right. Have you considered launching a consultancy office to render advise to dumb world leaders.
That is a lot better than working for free on your Saturday.

Here it is in the news just released:

Saturday, January 28, 2006 · Last updated 11:27 a.m. PT

Hamas says it will not change


GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip -- Following their resounding election victory, the Islamic militants of Hamas met the question of whether they will change their stripes with a loud "no": no recognition of Israel, no negotiations, no renunciation of terror.

At 1/28/2006 02:39:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

No Imad, I don't like dealing with dumb people, no matter who they are. That is why I like animals, they use 90% of thier brain capacity, in comparison to humans, the sudy shows they only use 10% of that capacity.

At 1/28/2006 02:48:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

One person agrees:

Today, Natanyahu dismissed the view that governing might make Hamas more moderate, comparing the Islamist group to Afghanistan's Taliban and the religious hard-liners in Iran. As a result, Netanyahu wants to move the security fence farther into the west bank after the Hamas election victory.

One person would sure love for Hamas to stick to the old strategy.

At 1/28/2006 03:14:00 PM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

I am reminded how the PLO would never ever recognize Israel then did just that. How Yasser Arafat and Fatah was a terrorist orginization once and now is considered legitimate (incredibly in spite of their own armed wing of Al-Aqsa Brigades still quite active in resisting Israel). I am reminded how Begin once was a terrorist, was derided when forming Likud, and then shaking the entire middle east with one hand shake with Anwar Sadat. Foresight is the key word here. People and orginizations can adapt to their environment.

Hamas is much more sophisticated than any Taliban or Iran mullah. Time will tell how they will adapt to the current situation. And Ehsani you are right--it will be interesting to see how the relationship between the Damascus leaders and the local leaders develop.

At 1/28/2006 03:32:00 PM, Blogger I rather born Syrian or a dog said...

The optimists… the optimist……ooohhh the DESPARADOS… and the
Security Fence!! Security Fence!!! mmmmaaaan talk about ignoramus morons, living in 3000 AD in everyway. If you only have an idea of the type of weaponry being developed by Oronted International Defense Corporation.

On a second thought, why not keep thinking of the Stone Age defense systems. Looks like Israeli Mossad is running dry, no new sources of stolen sophisticated technologies HUH, DAH. Companies got smart and supplies dried up. Hey, I see you still running that Art Saleswomen spy- scam, I have to say they are dressed pretty elegantly in Black business suit, I would of dated and fucked few of them if I was single (or my wife will let me).

YEP. Back to stone, stone this year, MASSADA the next year defense. You are so fucking lucky that I live and work in the United States and have so many Jews that I love and care about, especially on my wife side. Otherwise, not even Massada will do the work of security for you EHSANI and EC geeks.

At 1/28/2006 04:00:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

If my memory serves me right, this orontes whatever was looking for venture capital. The amount it was seeking was $300,000? I am hoping that I was wrong and that I missing a couple or more digits, as $300,000 is an embarrassingly small amount of money for a grand endeavor of this type. Hopefully I misunderstood, and the financing is to fund a sci-fi novel not a real business.

At 1/28/2006 04:22:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

The problem with the so-called resistance, is that it was made innefective by the contruction of the wall. True this wall is a deeply immoral thing, but it is efficient nonetheless. There was a suicide bombing every week at the beginning of the intifida, now there's one every 3 months. Do the Hamas really expect that assassination 10 Israeli civilians every couple of months will destroy Israel?

And what will happen when the wall will be over? How is the Hamas going to 'resist'? I mean the wall is half over and it has already affected Hamas' capabilities.

Hamas is not the solution for the Palestinians. Palestinians are so desperate that they can't think straight anymore. By the time they see the truth, it will be too late.

At 1/28/2006 04:23:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Ehsani, in case you don't know, Orontes is SRP alias Metaz.

At 1/28/2006 04:25:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

How ironic for Islamists to attack the U.S. and its policies.

Political Islam had been in trouble for decades. They suffered a crackdown in Algeria following their decent showing in the first round of election. Mubarak, Saddam and Assad were no less brutal in preventing them from taking any power. The security services and the army (Hama) were used in all three to crack down on their movements.

All of that started to change when the U.S. invaded Iraq. Immediately after toppling Saddam, it was the religious Shiite movements that gained the most, and have been since.
Lebanon was next. Hezbollah soon emerged as the main opposition force in parliament. Egypt followed suit with the Moslem Brothers gaining a significant number of seats during the latest elections. This week, it was Hamas’s turn to gain momentum as a political force.

It is high time for leaders of these movements to stop the hate America rhetoric and extend a Thank you note to Washington. Were it not for the physical arrival of America in the region and the new approach that the U.S. seems to want to embrace, Islam as a political force would not have gained this apparent momentum. The question is would they seize the moment and grab the opportunity?

As for me, as much as I disagree with everything these movements stand for from an ideological standpoint, I also realize that this is a natural extension of the democratic platform that we want to adopt in the region. One would hope that the seculars and liberals among us would ultimately win by the power of our arguments. Regrettably, This phase of increased political influence by the Islamists is inevitable and we must all learn to live with it for the time being.

At 1/28/2006 04:30:00 PM, Blogger ugarit said...


Note the use of the words "seemingly secular" and not secular on its own.

Let's not kid ourselves as long as Syria can serve America's interests it does'nt matter what it is. America only wants "democracy" when it suits its goals. Nevertheless, who cares what America wants, but what Syrians should want.

At 1/28/2006 04:31:00 PM, Blogger ActiveListener said...

I understand the Palestinian urge to reject anything Arafat-tainted and want a fresh start – Palestinians I know have told me this for a long time.

The cases are not a perfect match, but there could be a lesson in this for those who think that any group with connections to the Bashar-Baath regime and Syrian status quo has future hopes in a ballot box.

Note that the losers in the Palestinian election are at least talking the talk about being a loyal opposition.

In other words, they can be opposed to the actions of the government of the day without being opposed to the constitution or the political system. But the other half of the equation is that those in power will respect that their critics are still loyal to their country and its system and will not abuse their power to suppress political opponents.

Let’s see if the Palestinians can do it!

At 1/28/2006 05:05:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

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At 1/28/2006 05:19:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Ugarit, your argument does not stand. The US are supporting democratization in all the greater Middle East, be it in Koweit, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Egypt you name it.

But it is true that the US is imposing different rythm depending on the friendliness of government: in some states such as Koweit and Jordan the US are pushing for slow change, in other states such as Iraq and Iran the US would prefer to see instant democratization = total regime change.

I tend to prefer progressive democratization, except for some problematic states like Syria and Iran who should be 'liberated' at once. Progressive democratization leaves time to societies to adapt. The change from one year to another is small, but when you measure it on a whole decade you can see the difference.

At 1/28/2006 05:20:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

Is not that a shame EHSANI2, that is all we needed $300,000. What a joke huh. but I don't have the extra cash dude. But since you asked and joked about it, in fact tried to belittle this, thought this reply that was sent to my friend will give a little more sobering information that will make you and people like you see what kind of ignorant fool you are.

Also, you need to understand something, I don’t giva a fuck about your opinion here, I am not posting here because so you can read my posts. Like they say in Syria:
In fact a lot of the shit I type in here is really for my own use on other things I write about, but figured will use this space for market test and picking heads. Got it dude.

So here is the reply emailed to someone: CUT>PASTE

The investment is for the Compressed Air Electric Generator venture offered by Orontes Technology USA, not the China, North Korea and Iran based Orontes Defense Corporation and companies. The investment amount required (still not met) was 300k x 2=600k.

I should explain to you that the Chinese providing the large capital to build the generators and extend credit to the U.S. Company. The Chinese will finance whatever we request from them. Thought maybe will pick one smart rich investor that will also finance some other things I am working on that I don’t want the Chinese to get hold of, and wanted to keep in the United States like DEATH RAY. We have not yet received any offer on that, don't giva fuck, will take our business somewhere else.

You know, I just get a kick out making fools of people, especially, those who think they are so smart. Will have the whole world posses the technology of driving remote guided ships, submercible and helicopters from any ware on the planet to any other point on this globe on compressed air. Drive electric vehicles on compressed air, while American pay $6 for gallon of gas. By the way check Google for LE CAR.

Years ago when we first filed for patent, ENRON threatened us not to ever contact them again to seek capital from ENRON venture capital unit. A high ranking official The U.S. Department of energy, said “We got no chance”, he said “ you have to understand, the U.S. Department of Energy is here to protect the vital interests of major U.S. oil Companies, not those with alternative energy” further “ We have zero chance of getting approved on unsolicited proposal to the DOE and a grant for this technology will never be offered by the DOE”

Even, FORD and GE also turned us down. Of course I keep evidences of all this crap, because one day I like to show it off. I know ENRON is gone and hopefully FORD will be solvent by the time this material will come up. In fact were turned down by the California Energy Commission, for matching funds grant

LOL, and LOL, and LOL. I think American will pay attention to this technology when they get Orontes Technology Corporation request for over flight information request, when the first non-stop around the world flight by an autonomous or remotely controlled flying craft will be sent to the appropriate Department. They will pay bigger attention when they learn that the craft will cost the buyer under $3000.

At 1/28/2006 05:25:00 PM, Blogger ugarit said...

"The US are supporting democratization in all the greater Middle East, be it in Koweit, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Egypt you name it."

If true, which is debatable, only because it serves its interests now. In the past they supported Saddam, and they still support other dictators. Now Qaddafi has been cleansed of his sins. For example Saudi Arabia is far worse than Syria from a civil and personal rights perspective while SA is nearly untouched. Syria is much closer to being democratic than Saudi Arabia but Syria is being targetted much more. Why? I have no doubt this is the case because that's what Israel wants. SA is economically more significant than Syria and hence it's very dangerous to mess with that one.

Syria needs to be a democracy and not because America wants it. Bush is not the right ruler to dictate what democracy is. Johnson was the most libral president and was not able to "democratize" indo-china. This half wit in the White House does'nt have the mental capacity to comprehend what's going on. Any how, he's only a figure head.

All that being said. The Arab world must democratize, agreed.

At 1/28/2006 06:02:00 PM, Blogger ActiveListener said...

I get so angry and anxious about Israel and its behaviour and wonder when the west and ME leaders will wake up and wonder what the hell is this all about, how can supporting or opposing it possibly justify the gigantic geopolitical risk and reactions this small group is generating.

The Israelis after all are so brave, so rational, always pointlessly “being the mad dog” as Moshe Dayan told them to... Sending high tech aerial weaponry to kill a Sheik Yassin, a frail paraplegic, deaf man in a wheelchair because his verbal influence represented such a terrifying danger to their State.

Suicide bombers sicken and sadden me, and there is nothing that can ever justify this. Yet if I read any interview with the late Yassin he presents more dignity and rationale than any Israeli leader I've read.

Arafat was one if Israel's most toxic side effects, and the first ME government that refuses to take their bait and react will have the potential to breathe and grow arms and legs and move forward.

Message to Hamas - and Syrians too, if you think about it

“As the father of Palestine, Arafat was also the guardian of its myths, its hopes, and its possibilities. It is in this role that Samuels sees Arafat's greatest failures. Arafat's political goal of creating an independent Palestine in the ruins of the Israeli state overwhelmed all other considerations, including the welfare of his people. ….Even with financial aid and political incentives, Arafat refused to build an economy, infrastructure, or even to improve refugee housing—things that would be necessary as the basis for an actual functioning, independent state.
There's no reason to suspect that the Palestinian people are not fully as capable as the Israelis of making a go of a successful Western state—except for the fact that the political culture, and indeed the national identity of the Palestinian people, was shaped in the image of this one man who couldn't have cared less about building a Western political culture or a strong economy. …..Those refugees were political capital that belonged to him. The more miserable the Palestinian people were, the more his capital increased.”

(from an article and interview on how Arafat destroyed Palestine, in Atlantic Monthly, August 2005)

At 1/28/2006 07:23:00 PM, Blogger RM said...


Back in the days, the MB contended that the Syrian army abandoned whole villages in the Golan even before Israeli attaks. (I think they thought there was some sort of collusion between the two sides, which cannot be ruled out).

Well, my point is that the MB in in Syria has always labeled the Syrian Batist as traitors and workers ('amiline) to israel.

I personally think that had they held power or allowed to resist (which they were not, of course, instead their military wing was crushed), they would not have offered the Golan Heights on a silver platter.

At 1/28/2006 11:08:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

Syria needs to improve it,s economy so it will not end up an islamist state and to do that the US will be smart to help Syria,s economy not ban American and other countries companies from doing buisness in Syria ,about the increase in prices of gasoline and cement Syria could make the pain of the free market that Syria needs by using some of money that they save by stoping the subsidies to increase the salaries of goverment employees to a decent wage and offer coupons to law income families for electricity,heating oil(Mazot)and cooking Natural Gas,syria has to move to a free market economy where the goverment will get out of the way limmiting it,s work to infrasructure financing through private construction and simplifying the tax system by implementing a flat tax of about 15 - 17 % and tax breakes for five years to companies which hire more the 100 employees and three years for companies which hire more than fifty employees ,provide capital to small buisness and tax breakes for one to two years,these procedures will stimulate the Syrian economy and excite the country and decrease unemployment ,the people who are in charge are the ones to impliment these changes as the oposition unfortunatly are not smarter or more knoledgable.

At 1/28/2006 11:18:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Fuck off Norman. You either run a socialist system in which teh state own everything as the case in Syria and must provides for all citizen all necessary needs. Or run afree enterprise system that the private sector own everything and then they can be taxed to pay for government common services. This taxation is not without representation (ASSHOLE) it must be voted for and approved by a body that is fairly and legally elected by the taxpayers, who will vote those officials that don't spend the tax money correctly in accordance with approved appropriation bills, and have the power and systen trasperancy to investigate corruption.

This combined Socialist / taxing without reprresentation system is a scam to milk cash out of citizens to foreign bank accounts without citizens approval.

Allright asshole.Make up you fucking mind which system do you want to run in Syria.

At 1/28/2006 11:33:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

The free market should set up the prices but the goverment should help the poor otherwise Syria will move toward a revolution,watch your languege it gives bad impression about you.

At 1/28/2006 11:38:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

You talking nonsence. read the comment above, understand what is said.

At 1/28/2006 11:51:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

I thing you fail to understand what i want to say,Syria has now a failed tax system where the rich avoid paying taxes by bribing govornment employees,that should chang by making the tax system fair political reform should follow shortly when economic system is implemented as without prosperity ther will be no Spain during Franco,s rule he implimented free market economy the when he died and a constitutional monarchy was established political reform was easy,that is an example of some somthing Syria could learn from.

At 1/29/2006 12:42:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Yah, talk to Bashar and Bush about it. We can not help you, sorry.

At 1/29/2006 01:04:00 AM, Blogger ActiveListener said...

Excuse me, SRP, before rudely barking more out of control obscenities about what you imagined Norman said, maybe you should take a breath:

1) it would not take long to find examples of free market democratic states that have offered a wide range of tax holidays, subsidies and other incentives to help kick-start various business sectors

and 2) I recently saw on CNN the Indonesians handing out special fuel vouchers to the poor after removing fuel subsidies. I must have missed it - when did they become a socialist state? (by your definition, that is)

At 1/29/2006 01:18:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Before barking at SRP and me. Try to understand what we said to Norman. Maybe you and him can live in this Socialist/tax systems, we can not. Take either the Socialist system or the free enterprise and associated taxes system. Provided that such a tax is mandated and appropriated by freely elective body. Nop taxasion whatsover without represenation. Do you have a clue about this concept? Are you living in the USA or outside. I can't take the time to explain. Maybe someone else will.

At 1/30/2006 03:35:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 1/30/2006 10:22:00 PM, Blogger LebaneseLION said...

Syrian Repuplican party, you are overally optimistic about your Bashar and the Srian regime.....
I got news for you shit for brains, you days are ###########rd!!

At 1/31/2006 03:37:00 PM, Blogger matchmade said...

I'm obviously joining this discussion late, but I had to respond to Bill Frist's incoherent comments on Syria, Lebanon and Israel-in-Palestine. How can we take seriously a man who refers to Israel as a democracy, and accuses Syria of backing "terrorism". He should take the plank out of his own eye first. Israel is the original terrorist state: its people were murdering British soldiers and Palestinians since at least the 1920s (what were the Stern Gang but "terrorists"?), and have continued to do so throughout the years of the illegal occupation of the land of Palestine from 1948 onwards. TheUS talksabout UN investigators; why does it never seek to enforce the innumerable UN resolutions against Israel? The idea that Israel is a democracy is particularly ridiculous: it is a racist, theocratic state, reminiscent of apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany. Its Arab inhabitants are second-class citizens by virtue of their race and their religion, both in legal terms and the racist behaviour of Israeli employment practices. The city of Jerusalem is being stolen from the remaining Palestinians by murder and direct theft; Christian churches and mosques - existing ones and archaeological sites - are being systematically destroyed in order to reveal the "original" synagogues underneath, or "oops, we found nothing, oh well, never mind" say the archaeologists; and the Gaza Strip is the biggest concentration camp in history. At least the white South Africans let their blacks in Soweto work; the Israelis lock up their borders and terrorise the Palestinians continually with helicopters and laser-guided weapons, where their opponents have AK47s and the bomb-belt. I don't approve of Hamas or Hezbollah, but the hypocrisy of the United States and its continual support of the racist state of Israel is simply sickening.

At 2/03/2006 06:02:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

The most realistic theory that is possible to believe is that Hariri killed himself. here is why:

- Harriri is a Muslim. he believes in jihad, and in sacrificing one's self for the national purpose.

- Hariri was an intelligent man who can calculate and discover what is the best way to achieve a purpose.

- Hariri gave up on Assad, as far as giving lebanon its independence. He was mad that Assad was not respecting him, so mad that he decided to do some thing drastic and end this comedy once and for all.

- Hariri studied the International atmospehre that was charged against Syria, and saw that France and the US started to put pressure on Assad. he wanted to take advantage of this international situation. His having all of the necessary ingredients described above: _Knowing what he wants. _wanting to do everything he can to achieve what he wants. _Convinced that world reaction over a his own assassination would be huge and most certainly would achieve lebanon's independence from Syria, he dicided to go ahead and offer himself as the most important Suicide Bomber.

He knew that the existing mood at the time would automatically accuse Assad, and that would be enough to force him to leave Lebanon. SOOOOOOOOO He arranged with Abu Addass, and supplied him with the explosives, paid Abu Addas family one million dollars and they both executed the plan. He died as any Musilm Suicide Bomber dies and went to heaven instantly where he was met with what is promised.

His plan was genius, it seems. Syrians withdrew from Lebanon almost instantly, and in that way, he took revenge from Assad, and may take Assad completly out of Syria as well.

God bless his soul.

The above is only a theory, that may exonrate Assad from his troubles if he advances it in the UN circles. May be it was the case, may be not.

At 2/22/2007 02:50:00 PM, Blogger pephi said...

It's true that Mr Landis is no expert in Lebanese affairs. But the usa is doing a good job.

At 2/26/2007 03:20:00 PM, Blogger Abdul Rahman Hilmi said...

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