Sunday, February 27, 2005

Local Reporters Getting Warned

Syrian reporters are getting their hands smacked here for the first time in years. Two reporters told me yesterday that they had gotten warning calls from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs telling them that they were not being loyal to Syria because they had filed "irresponsible" articles.

This tells us:
1. The heat is back on in Damascus. Until recently one could write pretty much as he pleased. Now the foreign ministry is trying to shut people up.

2. Both Syrian reporters were steaming. They don’t like to have their citizenship invoked in criticism. It is the old way of doing things here and it gets people furious because there is no argument, just threats. Five years of relative freedom has changed Syrians a great deal. Six years ago, I would not be able to circulate so freely among reporters and professors. They would not have expressed their anger. They are also thinking in completely new ways. Watching satellite TV, traveling, and having the Middle East change around them, has changed their perspective and educated them to a completely new language.

3. The Ministry -- and government, by extension – are way over their heads on this. They don’t know how to deal with public relations and can’t even get their story straight. Every one here is tearing their hair out over the incompetence of the government spokes-people and officials. As one local political science professor said: “I was watching a government deputy speak on a satellite station last night and they said Syria would win against Israel and its enemies because it was strong and held up the banner of LOVE.” He looked at me dumbstruck and said: “How can they say such things? Where do they find such lines.”

4. Syria’s old cards are blowing up in its hands, as I reported several weeks ago. The Hariri killing followed by the fake confession on al-Iraqiyya TV by someone claiming he had been sent into Iraq in 2001 to join the opposition, and now the Islamic Jihad report have clobbered Syria. It is completely isolated. The Lebanese, Iraqi and Palestinian fronts have all boomeranged against Syria. They are not cards but self inflicted wounds. The government will have to give them all up to save itself. This is what my father-in-law, the general, said to me the day we heard about the Hariri assassination.

Islamic Jihad took responsibility for the Tel Aviv bombing without informing the government, according to sources here. The Syrian government probably had no foreknowledge of the Tel Aviv bombing and is severely embarrassed by the Islamic Jihad announcement. The reporter I spoke to said, “Islamic Jihad is much more irresponsible and rash than Hamas. There is going to be elections in Gaza soon and IJ is not popular and will lose. Thus, they organized the bombing to stake out their position on the extreme.” Obviously there is confusion in IJ ranks. The Gaza office denied responsibility when Damascus was taking credit.

Regional Ba’th Party Conference: I’ve been trying to follow the story of the planned meeting for the conference of the regional leadership of the Baath Party. (There is no “National Leaderhip.” That was the old Baath Party led by Michel Aflaq and Salah Bitar, which fled the country in 1966 and ended up in Iraq.) The meeting is important because many of the various ministries’ reform plans depend on the Party first changing its constitution to allow for a greater market economy (getting rid of socialism - Ishtirakiyya) and allowing for greater political freedom and pluralism (hurriyya).

A top Baathist explained to me that the Party could not meet in June or July as announced because Party elections have yet to take place. He explained that there are actual democratic elections by the Baath Party members for leadership. There are several layers of party organization extending from the very local level up to the top regional command. (I believe there are four layers altogether, but there may only be three) Each election, he said would take up to a month. Thus, if one does the math, it will be impossible to have the regional command meeting by July. The election process has not begun or even been announced.

Freedom: When I asked if the process was really democratic going right up to the top, he explained that it wasn’t. “The way it works,” he said, “is that at the lower levels the process is very democratic and correct. But at the last level it is not. The government leadership appoints who it wants to the regional command from the lower ranks.” He explained that many of the elected officials give wonderful and heated speeches after they are elected about how they want to change things. “Then they are punished.” He said. “They are not hurt,” he assured me, “just punished in various ways. They don’t get what they want. At the last level, it is “wila’” or loyalty to the leadership which counts.”

Conclusions:
1. The Baath Party Conference cannot be help before this fall, if then.
2. Democratic elections take place in Syria among the lower ranks of the Baath Party.
3. Reformers are elected and rise up through the ranks. They are not rewarded for there reformism, however, unless they show loyalty to the leadership, which may contradict their reform plans.
4. The present pressure on Syria will surely halt most reform plans because there is a very high premium on loyalty to the regime right now.

45 Comments:

At 2/27/2005 10:54:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You just provoked college memories!
The last time the Baath conference was held, I was in senior year and was asked to be one of two vote observers in one of the voting halls: All eligible voters (students & professors) gather in a hall and then the candidates are announced, papers with the candidates names are distributed for voting (you mark next to his/her name)
At the end the observers count and announce the winners. I can assure you that this was democratic and I was not pressured, asked or even hinted to cheat. I have no idea what happened later in the next level because I lost interest and found a job outside the country.

 
At 2/27/2005 11:30:00 AM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

To our Syrian friends:

The Lebanese puppet regime is using the Lebanese Army and additional security and intelligence forces to prevent tomorrow's large demonstration in Martyr's Square and in front of the Lebanese parliament.

The Lebanese are just fed up with this regime and want to topple it; it is feared that clashes may accure and people could get hurt or denied access to the sit-in... without those illegal maneuvers by the illegal government, hundreds of thousands if not a million of Lebanese could be demonstrating tomorrow for the NO CONFIDENCE VOTE against parliament.

This vote is going to take place on Monday 28th of February and is probably going to go the way of the Syrian-Lebanese Government because of YOU-KNOW-WHO's pressure.

God Help Lebanon and our young countrymen chanting for freedom... Syrians from all classes, stand up with us! Our Freedom is YOUR Freedom!!

 
At 2/27/2005 12:54:00 PM, Blogger Ahmad Saïd said...

I can't say this without tearing up! And although I am happy for you in Lebanon and I am inspired by your courage, I also very much envy you. Because we have yet recover a modicum of bravery in Syria, after these long crushing years of Arab nationalist brutality.

YOU HAVE MY THOUGHTS AND MY PRAYERS, MY SISTERS AND MY BROTHERS!!!!

 
At 2/27/2005 01:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't understand how supporting racist anti-Syrian slogans will get us freedom and if the Syrian workers, who were subject to racist violence, are among the classes you are addressing.
Goodluck anyway

 
At 2/27/2005 02:19:00 PM, Blogger Ahmad Saïd said...

Anonynous @ 1:14, it strikes me as arrogant and hypocritical on your part, jousting and name-calling the Lebanese, when their own anger at our 30 years of intrusion and brutal occupation is strange and racist in your eyes.
I think it would be more honorable for us to recognize the legitimacy of their anger. After all, didn't we bring this upon ourselves?

 
At 2/27/2005 03:38:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahmed,
I don't know if we brought it on ourselves or not, this is controversial and discussing it will take hours. You know Ahmed that Syrians don't look at Lebanon with arrogance, even though the racist tone towards us started decades before Syrian army had presence in Lebanon. What annoys me is that common Syrians have to know, interact and sympathize with every detail of Lebanese social & political life. Take this forum for example, even though its almost the only Syrian blog, yet 90% of discussions revolve around Lebanese affairs. What about us? What about our lives? What about our details?
Sorry Ibrahim, may God be with you.

 
At 2/27/2005 04:20:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry for being one of those to blab on and on about Lebanese affairs in this Syria Comment forum. However, Lebanon and Syria's affairs are intimately entwined.

Especially since the assassination of Hariri, what happens with Syria matters to Lebanon and vice versa. It's only natural that Lebanese issues should get debated here.

But I won't rant about Lebanese citizenship matters on Syria Comment anymore, I promise. You're right, it's very off topic!

By the way, I am distressed to hear that Lebanese in my home district of Sidon attacked Syrian workers. THis is senseless. These workers are not responsible for the actions of their government or military. (Even if you do accept that Syria was behind the assassination - we haven't seen solid proof) I don't like this habit of attacking the weak in fits of vengefulness whenever something bad happens. Americans do it, too (look at post 9/11 attacks on Sikhs, Muslims, even Christian LEbanese and Palestinians). It's a sign of mob madness.

Leila from Dove's Eye View

 
At 2/27/2005 05:35:00 PM, Anonymous Emile said...

"I can't understand how supporting racist anti-Syrian slogans will get us freedom and if the Syrian workers, who were subject to racist violence, are among the classes you are addressing.
Goodluck anyway"

I agree. The violence towards the workers is totally unneeded and has no justification beyond blind anger. However, it is not racist to tell the truth, Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God. Syria should leave Lebanon now. They don't belong here beyond civilians.

 
At 2/27/2005 07:12:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. Joshua, (And Anonymous at 10:54)
About Conclusion No.2.
The candidates are elected freely at the lower levels (Khaleeah (Cell) and Shu3baa (Branch)), but since 1982, no one can be nominated without a clearance (Muwafaka) from the Security Service (Political Security Branch) coupled with a recommendation from the level directly-above, through which the Security Clearance passes. So it is not as democratic as it seems.
About Conclusion No. 3.
Especially since the eighties, there are a minimal percentage of people who enter the Baath and have anything in their mind except facilitating their personal life through some advantages given to the Bathist, although these advantages have become very limited recently for bathist in the lower ranks (unlimited at the top-high ranks of course). So the conclusion that reformers are elected from the bottom in the Baath is somehow not very convincing.

Your friend in east.

 
At 2/27/2005 10:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is anyone else watching LBC and FUTURE TV ? Its history, the Syrian backed demonstrations have been cancelled and al that is now left in Martyrs square are young pro-liberation nationalists

 
At 2/28/2005 01:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:34:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not necessarily Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:34:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emile,
"Bashir al-Asad is the enemy of God and people of God"

You have to understand that Bashar has followers and supporters who are not necessarily Allawis, Baathists or benefiting anything personal from his regime. Please live with that fact if you are genuinely looking for a dialogue here because we don't want to end up with a calling names & swearing contest.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:44:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 2/28/2005 03:52:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 2/28/2005 03:53:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 2/28/2005 03:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry everyone, pc was hanged and mistakenly submitted 1000000 times the same comment.

 
At 2/28/2005 03:58:00 AM, Blogger Joshua Landis said...

Dear all, thanks for your helpful comments on the election process in the Baath. I learn as much from the comments as elsewhere. Friend from the East, shtaqnalak! Joshua

 
At 2/28/2005 06:08:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Professor Joshua stated:

Obviously there is confusion in IJ ranks. The Gaza office denied responsibility when Damascus was taking credit.Obviously, supporting terrorism has its consequences. May the Utopian Baathist nightmare meet "regime change" as soon as possible.

 
At 2/28/2005 06:08:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Professor Joshua stated:

Obviously there is confusion in IJ ranks. The Gaza office denied responsibility when Damascus was taking credit.Obviously, supporting terrorism has its consequences. May the Utopian Baathist nightmare meet "regime change" as soon as possible.

 
At 2/28/2005 06:14:00 AM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

Those defending the Syrian workers in Lebanon make me laugh...

Don't worry, nothing will happen to those poor fellows, did anyone even get seriously injured or killed? (not that I want to see anyone killed)... What about our Lebanese political prisoners in Syrian prisons? What are they doing there? Who are protecting them from the torturers of Mezzeh and Tadmor? WHO? WHY DO YOU FORGET ABOUT THEM AND ARE OH SO SENSITIVE ABOUT YOUR SYRIAN WORKERS?

Easy: You're being egocentric.

While I do not support these actions by any means, they are only sparse, sporadic and happened on a limited number of occasions... so get off your high horse will you? Syrian workers are welcomed in Lebanon and I will be the first one standing behind their rights and defending them ON THE ONLY CONDITION THAT THEIR PRESENCE BE REGULATED.

We cannot have hundreds of thousands of Syrian workers in Lebanon anymore, call it what you like but regulation is in place.

Seriously... I can't even start to fathom the fact that somebody made a big deal about those poor Syrian workers, but go ahead and exaggerate all you want, it doesn't mean you are right.

 
At 2/28/2005 06:50:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ibrahim, I am happy for you to inform me about Lebanese political prisoners in Syria. Doesn't negate what I have to say about people in my home town attacking Syrian workers. When people in my home town attacked Palestinians I spoke up, too. And when people in my home town attacked my relatives because they are Christians, you'd better be damned sure I spoke up. I don't like such behavior!

Call names if you like, but it doesn't forward the discussion at all, just adds rancor and noise.

 
At 2/28/2005 06:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ibrahim,
You are right: Not only the issue of Syrian workers should be regulated but the whole Syrian-Lebanese relationship should re-defined & regulated. This is not disputable but workers were abused and just because our government didn't investigate and announce statistics of casualties (as usual) this doesn't mean that they were not subjects to violence. Lebanese people should be more sensitive about such matters because Lebanese communities in foreign countries (especially Africa) have been suffered from the same treatment.
Of course we sympathize with Lebanese prisoners and don't forget that we have prisoners of our own but to be frank with you, I have no real information about this issue. I know that Syrian authorities have denied the existence of these prisoners claiming that during the Lebanese war the situation was too chaos to determine who killed/kidnapped who and that their families insist claiming that they have leaks or information. In all cases, I hope that the families will find reunited soon.

 
At 2/28/2005 07:05:00 AM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

The Baath has a very complex structure, even at the local level. But, the Syrian authorities are now dealing with external pressures, and the internal front will have to wait. Who, besisdes the party members, really cares (about the Baath party) when these external pressures are going to dictate internal changes in Syria that go beyond the Baath party? I am sure that Bashsar Assad, having been surprised by the Hariri and the IJ issues unprepared, is going to have to RE-NAME the party and open the door to some elections that will not be based on the current system (Baath and four or five "accepted" parties in a one-bloc coalition). The outcome in Syria of what is going in Lebanon is: the very beginning of a process of democratization "from above" rather than the Baath base reforming up stream.
PS: Leila is right about the need to leave Syrian workers and soldiers alone.

 
At 2/28/2005 07:25:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joshua,
Change is inevitable. Some form of democracy is coming. I know this because Syria has always followed the Egyptian model. I can predict that this will commence in two years when the presidency elections are due but before that there will be two parties joining the social progressive front: Syrian National Social party and an Islamic party.
Negotiations to establish an Islamic party took place but they failed to convince a well know Syrian Islamic scholar Al-boty (belongs to the Kurdish religious elite as the late Sheikh Kiftaru) to lead this party.
The Syrian National Social party is already a decision maker in this regime through its "secret" influential lobbyists and decision makers.

 
At 2/28/2005 01:57:00 PM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

It seems that you did not get my comments right or read what you wanted to read, I already said that I condone any kind of violence, this applies to all including Syrian workers in Lebanon.

Congrats for our victory today, be it small or not, this is to prove that the Lebanese can achieve what 26 Arab nations cannot. (i really didn't count how many of those "nations" there are)...

Yes, continue to speak out for injustices against Syrian workers, yes blow out out of proportions, while you're at it why don't you head to Saida and organize a meeting, better yet form a Syrian Workers Federation in Lebanon Club; you could be responsible of your home town's club and denounce to the whole world the atrocities that Syrian Workers are enduring in Lebanon; especially in Saida, the new anti-Syrian racist capital of the South...

Amen to that

 
At 2/28/2005 07:35:00 PM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

Ibrahim,

I have already said that Syrian workers will pack along the Syrian Army. It is sad that about ten workers have been killed, mostly thrown dowmn from the top of buildings. I think the new economic situation in Lebanon will dictate that some among the Lebanese take these jobs, as menial as some of them may be. The unemployement in Syria may refocus the Syrian government attention to internal issues after the issues dealing with external pressures are solved (this is also good for Lebanon in the upcoming re-definition of the Syrian-Lebanese relations).

 
At 3/01/2005 01:14:00 AM, Anonymous sod off swampy said...

What would be the reaction in Iraq if a B2 dropped in about midnight and sent Assad and his family to paradise? How about all the Batthist leaders? Would the average citizen see this as a good thing or a bad thing? America just wants the People of Syria to have a say in their future. We could do an Iraqi type operation in Syris anytime. It would take about 12 hours to destroy the Iraqi Military. But is that the best thing to do? There is no real deadline, Syria isn't going anywhere, and niether is the tyrant ruling Syria. Lets have a poll;
1. Wait and see what happens
2. Send in the Stealth bombers and kill the tyrant
3. A full scale invasion.
I like 2 because it is the most economical in human life. Why kill thousands when you can do the job by killing a few hundred?
If 1 would work wihout a civil war or massive uprisings that are put down with machine guns, then that is the way to go. But 1 could lead to another Hama.

 
At 3/01/2005 04:23:00 AM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

Crane, where did you get the info about the killings? Do you have any link...

 
At 3/01/2005 04:27:00 AM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

DOWN WITH THE TYRANTS:

http://www.tayyar.org/tayyar/articles.php?article_id=1546&type=news

 
At 3/01/2005 10:44:00 AM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

Ibrahim,
I do not believe any "haki jarayed" so my sources are friends; I spend no less than 3 hours a day talking to Lebanese friends of all confessions/denominations. A Lebanese Druze friend of mine said that the reason Walid Joumblatt is making his point on TV about not harming Syrian workers (both LBC and Future have shown this) is that the reports about these deaths have been submitted to him in person, by unbiased sources.
By the way, the guy killed in the pro-Karame march was killed by a provocateur, and I am happy nobody took the bait. At this time, the Opposition and the Loyalists are finally starting to realize that Lebanese divisions profit anybody but Lebanon.
PS: About Syria, I am also talking to Syrian friends every day and most oppose the administration, but nobody wants Syria to get drawn in a civil war.

 
At 3/01/2005 03:35:00 PM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

Any death is condemnable, especially a violent one, and if true, then those who threw these Syrian workers off the roof are criminals and should be tried by law.

However, I would like to point out that there all through the many years that Syrian workers have been in Lebanon, there have been very few incidents against them... In fact, they have been enjoying more freedom and tranquility in our country than in theirs... Do remember that it is the Syrian government that taxes 200 Syrian pounds per worker on his way in and out of his country, while the Lebanese authorities are not perceiving one single penny for the fees of having hundreds of thousands of Illegal Syrian workers on its homeland... Illegal they are because their situation is not regulated, and because every other single expat community in Lebanon is regulated (Sri Lankis, Egyptians, etc...), all but our "privileged" Syrian workers. Wouldn't for example the many Palestinians wish 1 per cent of the illegal rights enjoyed by those workers?

But getting back to topic, the gentleman that started ranting about the presumed killings of a handfull of Syrian workers in Saida did so at a very inopportune moment.... The rights of Syrian workers in Lebanon are secondary to the rights of Lebanese in Lebanon and this is the plain truth...

Let's not forget that most of those workers have already served in the Syrian army and constitute an additional tool of pressure and intimidation in Lebanon... If and when the Syrian regime decides, many weapons can be circulated to these gentlemen and they can very well ignite turbulences that we can hardly accomodate.

They are a threat, them, their army and their tyrant regime... You probably never heard of the many crimes that those workers commit on a weekly basis in Lebanon, from petty robbery to physical attack in the aim of larger theft, to rape of innocent young and older women, you obviously do not follow the police departments' news and while you will argue that other expat communities perpetrate such crimes, you should even take a closer look at statistics published by the Lebanese Internal Security Forces and which will not lie on the number of crimes committed by our massive contingent of Syrian workers as opposed to the other nationalities.... The Syrian worker used to think that he can get away with it because he feels protected by his army and intelligence services apparatus...

I hope that they began to change their minds today.

 
At 3/02/2005 07:21:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow.... Ibrahim!! You just outdid yourself with your anti-Syrian racism!! So now you are saying that every Syrian worker is a Mokhabaratji ready to take up arms to attack the Lebanese people, not to mention all the "crimes" committed by these poor and helpless fellows. What are you going to accuse them of next? killing Lebanese children and drinking their blood?.. Come on!! And by the way, I do agree that the status of Syrian workers should be regulated in Lebanon like all other foreign workers. Right now, unlike other nationalities, Syrian workers receive no social benefits and are not protected by any laws against abuse by their employers. You know very well that these workers have been always been abused by greedy employers way before the Syrian army entered Lebanon and continue to be abused till today. Come on!! Focus your anger on where it should be focused: the Syrian Moukhabarat and the Syrian regime. If you do so, I am sure you will have the full support of the majority of the Syrian people who are equal victims of this regime as the Lebanese people, including innocent Syrian political prisoners side-by-side with their Lebanese counter-parts in Palmyra, Mazzeh and Saydnayah. But if you decide the continue with your knee-jerk racism and incitation against the poor Syrian workers, then you may soon lose your best ally in this historical uprising:... the Syrian people!!!

 
At 3/02/2005 12:51:00 PM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

Joshua,

The article by Samir Haddad is very well documented; I liked the way the different groups are categorized; the evidence is that ex-Baath money keepers have one role and one role only: financing some of the groups.

But, one issue remains: the pattern recently has been bombings targetting Iraqi recruits or new Iraqi Army soldiers. I assume, from the Samir Haddad article, that more than one group is engaging in these activities. Any comments?

I hate to admit that the Anonymous responding to Ibrahim has a valid point: many Lebanese politicians are rotten to the core, and this is why people like me go rarely to Beirut, if ever; in fact, it is now apparent that the opposition may start to fragment: Joumblatt cannot speak for Maronites [despite the rumors (NOT A PROVEN FACT) that his father may be half-Maronite].

It was interesting, in the Bashar Assad interviews, that there is a cognition for the need for change; the fact that the Baath has made this a priority ONLY after the Golan issue (and other issues?) is settled may be a bad idea: some economic reforms (my Syrian friends seem to think) may be undertaken in the next few months; this may help Syrian citizens to be even more solidary with their authorities (I have observed that Syrians are very nationalistic, even those who are against the Assads or those who are for the immediate withdrawal from Lebanon).

After the current issues are solved, I would never (long term) be at ease next to our neighbors if Syria is not stable; the same goes (the necessity for stability), first and foremost, for Lebanon.

PS: Ibrahim, the Syrian workers are indeed previous soldiers in the Army, but this is due to the fact that they have performed compulsatory military service for at least 2 years.

 
At 3/03/2005 03:05:00 PM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

The "knee-jerking" as you so comically pointed out to only came from my part after ramblings about the Syrian workers being afraid of staying in Lebanon and stuff; well I can't blame them, their government is putting them in a very tight situation!! Hell, I was also afraid of going to Syria and still am, and you know what? because I'm afraid if someday I forget that I am a free man on the Syrian soil and I may say something or meet someone or do anything that is against the likes of the regime and which could put me in jail and torture for who-knows how much time?

The Lebanese do not need this shit.

And stop with your melodramatic stuff about oversizing things and rephrase my statements :) You make it look like those workers are blood sucking vampires, getting into such games will not lead you anywhere... Those workers are a threat, both economically and politically, and nobody is abusing them when they are making in a month as much as lawyers, teacher and engineers in Syria.

They would die to live and work in Lebanon.

 
At 3/03/2005 03:13:00 PM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

And by the way, although we would like to see the Syrians get free of their regime, we are expecting nothing from them, I believe they would be too afraid to attempt anything as little as writing anti-Bashar slogans on the wall, or distributing freedom leaflets or organizing demonstrations.... silly things may you add, but attempts to Freedom at least... You will do as you always have done, wait for events to fold and you would follow. You never came to our support even in forums such as this, and it is only now when we are fighting for our freedom that you are telling us we might lose your support if we stop being racist which we are not? Peullize, save it. Your army is racist, Your Goverment is racist; You are responsible of it, We Will Be Responsible of ours.

 
At 4/17/2005 04:18:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The one thing that strikes me when I hear the lebanese talk about Syrian regime brutality against the lebanese and there occupation of lebanon and so on.... is that the lebanese forget to realise that they themself are worse than the syrian regime and forget their history recent history in their ruthless killings and kidnappings amongst themselves. So are you telling me that syria started the civil war? syria created the hatred amongst fellow lebanese before they entered? syria killed people by passport identification along road sides in lebanon. Funny isnt it how the lebanese can forge a story and have the world to believe it. Frankly im glad that the french created lebanon out of syria and let the so called lebanese fight amongt themselves LONG LIVE BASHAR AND OUR GOVERNMENT..CAUSE STABILITY IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS WHAT WE LACK. AND the lebanese just envy the syrian style state control of its people. we dont want ur night clubs and strip joints and brothels let us be... have ur so called lebanon back just dont kill each other for it LOL i feel for use , actually u know what i dont...

 
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