Monday, December 12, 2005

Gebran Tueni is Murdered. Is Syria to Blame?

The Tueni murder has caused grief and shock throughout the region. The dominant interpretation in the West and Lebanon has been articulated by Walid Jumblat. He said that Syria murdered Tueni and is upping the ante to send a message to the Lebanese and world community that if Syria is pressed to the wall, it will strike back.

From Washington’s perspective, increasing the pressure on Syria has worked better than anyone could have imagined. The US drove the Syrian army from Lebanon at a very small price. Some 40 Lebanese were killed over the last year. This was perhaps the least bloody and least expensive liberation of a country in history. On November 10, President Asad also announced that the Syrian government would accept any decision that the Palestine Authority takes for the future of Palestine-Israeli relations. American pressure has also brought great dividends on the Iraq-Syria border. Condoleezza Rice commented to David Ignatius a few weeks ago that Syria has been doing much better on border security - an opinion that has been repeated by Iraqi officials and frequently corroborated by articles written for Syria Comment.

Despite these gains, Washington will not negotiate with Bashar al-Asad or give up its policy of increasing pressure on Damascus. Many European ambassadors in Damascus believe this is a foolish policy. A few have expressed to me that now is the time to bring in the crop. “The wheat is heavy on the stalk and ready for harvest,” one ambassador suggested to me. There are many signs that Syria has been thrashing about for an understanding with Washington but has been unable to get a positive response. But why should Washington stike a deal with a regime it detests and it has vilified when it can get what it wants through applying more pressure? Washington sees no reason to open a dialog with Damascus. It believes that Bashar is the problem, that he is a Baathist ideologue who does not keep his word. He will always backtrack on his promises, etc. Moreover, Washington refuses to return to the type of understanding it maintained with Syria during the days of Hafiz al-Asad, putting up with some of Syria's anti-American and anti-Israel behavior in order to win its assistance on the things most important to the US.

Some in Washington have been arguing that the US make it clear to Syria that Iraq is its primary concern and sit down with Bashar to hammer out an understanding for getting the most help it can on Iraq. This would imply Washington’s recognition of his leadership and force it off the war path with Syria. This council has not found favor. Anyway, why stop ratcheting up the pressure on Syria when it has proven so lucrative and so cheap.

The problem with continuing with the pressure, in the minds of some, is that eventually Syria will lash out, making it clear that it will not continue to give for free. Damascus will eventually be forced to make it clear to Washington that pressure does not pay and will backfire. Has Damascus reached that point? With the murder of Tueni, those who blame Syria will claim Damascus has reached its tipping point. It will no longer play the game of accommodating the West in the hope of coming to some accord, which is illusive.

One Syria who has had run ins with the police here speculated to me that perhaps the Tueni murder is a sign that the Syrian regime is divided. He described an imaginary scenario in which the security chiefs, who are being targeted for arrest by Mehlis, ordered the attack to force the President’s hand and ensure a forceful UN Security Council reaction, which would be followed by an equally forceful Syrian counter-reaction. By forcing the UN to get tough with Syria, Syria’s president would be forced to stop cooperation with the UN. This might save the 5 suspects from being handed over to an international court and imprisonment. But this is all speculation. Undoubtedly it will be the sort of speculation that runs far and wide.

No one is Syria can figure out why the murder would be carried out now unless it was committed by an enemy of Syria. Why would the Damascus government possible kill Tueni on the eve of the Security Council meeting that might lead to economic sanctions being placed on Syria? It just doesn’t make sense.

Are there other suspects besides Syria? Many Syrians suspect Israel, but why would Israel kill one of its best allies in Lebanon?

Could it be Hizbullah? Three days ago a senior Hizbullah leader was almost blown up in his car. Hizbullah accused Israel of carrying out the murder, but that does not mean it believes Israel was the author. It is hard to believe that Hizbullah would be behind Tueni's murder. Why strike out at a symbol and not a politician. Anyway, Hizbullah does not have a record of assassinating fellow Lebanese. With Mehlis caring out his UN mandated investigation, such acts of reckless retribution would be extremely risky. All the same, the confessional divide in Lebanon have been growing ever deeper. Over the last months the Shiite community and the Hariri led, anti-Syria movement have grown further apart. Hizbullah has announced it is against the formation of an international court to try the suspects of the Mehlis investigation. Hariri and Siniora are for it.

Most importantly, Hizbullah has threatened to place a spanner in the works of debt rescheduling conference which is coming up soon. It has already been delayed once and may be again. Washington is expected to reward Lebanon by putting up a some money, but more importantly, by getting Saudi Arabia to put up a lot of money to help reschedule Lebanon's towering national debt. Hizbullah has been making noises that it will oppose these reform measures so long as the United States pushes resolution 1559, which targets Hizbullah. In effect, the Shiites are saying that the US does not have the luxury of deciding which half of Lebanon it wishes to support and ally with. Hizbullah has surprised many with its continuing pro-Syrian stand as the Mehlis processes has moved forward. This puts growing strains on internal unity in Lebanon and opens the possibility that such strains could be behind the Tueni murder. All the same, Hizbullah is not a likely suspect. It just doesn’t smell of Hizbullah’s modus operandi.

Saad Hariri has not returned to Lebanon from his self imposed exile for fear of meeting the same fate as his father. Two days ago, Michael Young wrote an op-ed demanding that he come home and take charge of uniting Lebanon and coordinating its struggle against Syria. After Tueni’s death, Hariri’s return will be all the more important for Lebanon, but all the more risky for Hariri. Lebanon is beginning to look ever more unstable and incapable of putting its own house together. Certainly, the Lebanese security forces have proven they are unable to protect their country’s most outspoken luminaries. Gebran Tueni will leave a great void.

Gebran Tueni Perishes in Massive Car Bomb Explosion Near Beirut
Gebran Tueni, a fiery critic of Syria, was assassinated in a car-bomb explosion in Mkalles, east of Beirut Monday. He was 48....

4-Car bomb kills anti-Syrian MP Tueni in Beirut

BEIRUT, Dec 12 (Reuters) - A car bomb blast killed Lebanese newspaper magnate and anti-Syrian lawmaker Gebran Tueni in Beirut on Monday, a day after he returned from Paris, where he had based himself in recent months in fear of assassination.

Police said Tueni, publisher of An-Nahar newspaper, was among four people who died in the explosion that destroyed his armoured sports utility vehicle as it was driving in the Mekalis area of mainly Christian east Beirut. Ten people were wounded.

At least three people inside his car were killed, their bodies charred beyond recognition, witnesses said.

Police sources said a parked car packed with 40 kg (88 pounds) of dynamite was detonated by remote control as Tueni's car passed by.

Tueni was killed just hours before the U.N. Security Council was due to receive a report by chief U.N. investigator Detlev Mehlis, who has been trying to identify those behind the Feb. 14 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri.

An interim report by Mehlis in October said the evidence pointed towards the involvement of Syrian officials and their Lebanese allies in Hariri's killing. Syria denies this.

Lebanese Druze leader and politician Walid Jumblatt told Arab satellite television channels that Tueni's killing was linked to the Mehlis report and suggested Syria was behind it.

Asked who was responsible, he told Al Arabiya television: "Gebran Tueni and An-Nahar were being threatened for a long time by the Syrian regime... we got the message. We will persevere."

Jumblatt said: "They killed Gebran Tueni today because Mehlis will present his report today. This is a message to the international community and the Lebanese community."


Syria condemned the latest attack in Lebanon, which has been rocked by more than a dozen bombings and assassinations since the car bomb blast that killed Hariri and 22 others.

"Syria denounces this crime that claimed the lives of Lebanese, irrespective of their political stances," Syrian Information Minister Mahdi Dakhl-Allah told LBC television.

A statement carried by Syria's official news agency SANA said the bombing was timed "to direct accusations at Syria".

The blast set several cars ablaze and damaged nearby shops and buildings. Police and soldiers cordoned off the area as rescue workers ferried casualties to hospitals.

Tueni, 48, a fierce critic of Syria's policies in Lebanon who was elected to parliament this year, said in August he believed he was on a hit-list for assassination.

He had spent much of his time since then in Paris, but was believed to have returned to Beirut late on Sunday.

"Lebanese officials received accurate information from the international investigation committee about an assassination list of several politicians," he told the Arabic-language Radio Orient in Paris in August. "My name is on top of this list."

Tueni's uncle, Druze Telecommunications Minister Marwan Hamadeh, survived an attempt on his life in 2004.

Tueni was publisher, chairman of the board and general manager of Lebanon's leading newspaper An-Nahar. A columnist at the daily, Samir Kassir, who also criticised Syrian policies, was killed by a bomb in his car in June.

Tueni was married, with four daughters.

Syria says Beirut blast aimed at framing Damascus

DAMASCUS, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Syria said a bomb blast that killed an anti-Syrian politician in Beirut on Monday was an attempt to frame Damascus and damage its reputation.
In a statement carried by the official Syrian news agency, Syria denounced the "bombing that took place in the Mekalis suburb of Beirut ... whose timing is intended to direct accusations to Syria".

"Syria is pained over the bombings and assassinations that target the security of Lebanon," said the news agency.

A car bomb killed staunch anti-Syrian member of parliament and journalist Gebran Tueni. Three other people died and 10 were wounded in the explosion that blew up Teuni's armoured SUV in mainly Christian east Beirut.

Lebanese politicians have accused Syria of involvement in a chain of assassinations of Lebanese political and media figures since the Feb. 14 truck bomb assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri.

An initial United Nations probe implicated Syria in the assassination of Hariri. Syria, which was the main power broker in is smaller neighbour until April when it ended three decades of military presence in Lebanon, denies any role in any killing.

The following was sent by Ehsani2

Bashar just gave an interview to Russia's state Television. He warned that "The Middle East is the heart of the world, and Syria is the heart of the Middle East. If the situation in Syria and Iraq is not good, the whole region will become unstable and the entire world will pay for that". Asked whether he will be ready to hand in his relatives if they are named, he said "It is not names that matter but proof. We don't accept politicizing the probe. There is a certain political situation around the commission that disorganizes its work".

Present at the Disintegration
December 11, 2005
Op-Ed Contributor to NY Times


What is wrong with pursuing the Constitution to its logical conclusion: the breakup of Iraq? Nothing, if that breakup is consensual and does not entail an escalation in the violence tearing the country apart. But such is not the case. The debate in Parliament over the Constitution was extremely polarized and artificially cut short by the majority. Moreover, if a mere 83,283 people in the province of Nineveh had voted no instead of yes, the draft constitution would have been defeated.

Sunni opposition to the new order will continue. Crushing it by force, as some Shiite hotheads in the Parliament's majority bloc are calling for, will be an extremely bloody business. Even if the long-term outcome of an all-out Iraqi civil war is not in doubt, the body count and destruction would make Lebanon's war look like a picnic. No moral person can condone the parliamentary majority that makes this happen.

The 2003 Iraq war has indeed brought about an irreversible transformation of politics and society in Iraq. But this transformation has not consolidated power, as the great revolutions of the past have tended to do (in France, Russia and even Iran), nor is it distributing power on an agreed upon and equitable basis, as happened after the American Revolution and as Iraqi liberal democrats like myself had hoped would happen after the fall of Saddam Hussein. Rather, it is dissipating it. And that is a terrifying prospect for a population whose primary legacy from the Saddam Hussein era is a profound mistrust of government in all its forms.

By ceding and dismissing centralized power, Iraqis may end by ceding all their power. Iran in the short run, and the Arab world in the long run, will fill the vacuum with proxies, turning the dream of a democratic and reborn Iraq into a dystopia of warring militias and rampant hopelessness.


At 12/12/2005 05:16:00 PM, Blogger zobahhan said...

Things just dont add up. And when they dont, something is defenitely not in place

At 12/12/2005 05:23:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Landis said: "Are there other suspects besides Syria? Many Syrians suspect Israel, but why would Israel kill one of its best allies in Lebanon?

You really think Jews will have allies in Lebanon? Maybe if he was a Jew but not Tuaini for sure. He is a progressive Lebanese, Israeli and Jews may rely on someone like Gegia who will distroy Lebanon and surrender the keys to the land to Israel.

This is nothing but a Franco-Mossad conspiracy. Only idiots will blame Syria and the Baath. You think the Baathist are stupid to do that killing today. You seen how they busted Mehlis and walked away and will walk free tomorrow (pretty much). Baathists are not stupid, they are shrewd and they greased the hand of low life western and eastern politicians and even left sperm in their wife’s pussy too.

Here is the scam that is unfolding, you have to be an ignorant moron not to see it: The French wants to put bases in Lebanon just like the other supper power did in the Middkle East. They also wants to get to that offshore oil of Lebanon coast, and have the country as dependency. They think USA got Iraq, U.K. got Syria so why not take Lebanon.

This is nothing more than NEW AND IMPROVED SYKES-PICOT DEAL. Again, using Jews “MOSSAD” to do the dirty work. In return for Israel helping France out in this plan, the French will push for liquidating Hizbullah and the Palestinians then force Lebanon to sign peace treaty with Israel.

That is really what is behind the assassination, and if not Mossad, Christian Lebanease GEGEIA is yet another server.

Fuckers. Incrideble. Happy to know that President Assad is not going to play this silly game anymore and will fight tooth and nail for Syria and Lebanon.

At Tuesday, December 13, 2005, Syrian Republican Party said...

Watch France offering Lebanon help, "but only if the Lebanease asked for it" ofcourse. HEHAHAHAHAHA. what a fucking childish scam, the child like behavior in this op tells me more of an Israeli op than anything else.

At 12/12/2005 05:30:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

This previous analysis as follow is crazy:

""""One Syria who has had run ins with the police here speculated to me that perhaps the Tueni murder is a sign that the Syrian regime is divided. He described an imaginary scenario in which the security chiefs, who are being targeted for arrest by Mehlis, ordered the attack to force the President’s hand and ensure a forceful UN Security Council reaction, which would be followed by an equally forceful Syrian counter-reaction. By forcing the UN to get tough with Syria, Syria’s president would be forced to stop cooperation with the UN. This might save the 5 suspects from being handed over to an international court and imprisonment. But this is all speculation. Undoubtedly it will be the sort of speculation that runs far and wide.

Tweini was not the only one that was assassinated after the assassination of Hariri.

I believe the culprit is the Assad Regime, definitely.

Proof? The assassination inside Syria, inside Damscus, Inside the Ministry of Interior of Ghazi Kanaan.

Prrof? The simple and stupid lies of Bashar Assad on a daily basis such as saying that the Syrian People have chosen him, or that it is not in the Regime's tradition to assassinate people who differ with it in political opinions.

Proof? The Regime's treatment of the Syrian people that has become much harsher since they were forced to leave lebanon. A Regime that is reasonable and rational would have at least shown some openess to its people, and stopped treating human beings as objects.

Syria's jails have added opposition members who did nothing wrong.

Assad is a con young man. He must go.


At 12/12/2005 05:45:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 12/12/2005 09:32:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Is there a technical problem that this site's admin isn't able to resolve?

At 12/12/2005 09:57:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

SRP you're an idiot. I bet that you're a loser in real life too.

At 12/12/2005 10:15:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

Joshua, one week ago, Iraq has accused Syria of supporting the local terrorists (yes, again). Saying that Syria is making progress on the border issue is rubbish. And saying that the US should stop pressuring Syria when this country is conducting terrorists actions against ALL of its neighbours is dangerous nonsense.

At a time when the first goal of the US foreign policy is to fight terror, diminishing the pressure on the first terrorist state in the world would be paradoxical.

At 12/12/2005 10:17:00 PM, Blogger zobahhan said...

JAM is da man. That rhymes. I guess thats all youve got going for you. I love your proof and analysis -real professional. Im sure you took some lessons from reading up on mehlis. I like your initiative.

Vox, ive read stupid stuff coming out of you before. Though for one time, I agree on this one.

At 12/12/2005 10:19:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"It believes that Bashar is the problem, that he is a Baathist ideologue who does not keep his word. He will always backtrack on his promises, etc. "

A Baathist ideologue who trusts his fellows Arabs so much that he forbids the Arabs Sunni of Syria from accessing meaningful positions in the security apparatus? What kind of bullshit is that?

At 12/12/2005 10:22:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

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At 12/12/2005 10:23:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"Some in Washington have been arguing that the US make it clear to Syria that Iraq is its primary concern and sit down with Bashar to hammer out an understanding for getting the most help it can on Iraq. "

Further bullshit. Like it wasn't Bashar who was responsible for opening the hostilities by trying to create a civil war in Iraq. Do you really expect the US to negotiate with Bashar when Syria is conducting an anti-US terror campaign in the region? I know it's Christmas but Santa Klaus does not exist.

At 12/13/2005 01:07:00 AM, Blogger zobahhan said...

Vox youre a retard.
Who created a situation for civil war which Syria would exploit? Who cares what kind of campaign we run in the middle east...who cares if its anti-us. the us can go to hell. Let it stay out of the region. it has nothing to do there

At 12/13/2005 01:30:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


At 12/13/2005 01:31:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Why do the thread disappear?

At 12/13/2005 02:25:00 AM, Blogger BP said...

News here:

At 12/13/2005 02:30:00 AM, Blogger BP said...

""""""""""Re: Landis, you said you still respect the guy, and I am sure he is decent fellow. But for months now, his stuff's been that of a wide-eyed super-naif (at best) who can't tell reality from fiction.

I still check his site though, for the entertainement value of his comments section.
JoseyWales | Homepage | 12.12.05 - 8:12 pm | # """""""""""""

GOT IT????????

At 12/13/2005 02:33:00 AM, Blogger BP said...

""""""..........the Syrian regime is able to survive because whenever they are under pressure they point at the Israelis and some idiots begin to bark 'zionists! zionists!'. It's a Pavlovian reflex. Just look at Landis' blog ( Commenters are pathetic. """""""

You got it?

At 12/13/2005 03:58:00 AM, Blogger zobahhan said...

BP you have major confusion issues. You need to get checked up before you post and comment. You make absolutely no sense.

At 12/13/2005 05:29:00 AM, Blogger Alterion said...

Sahar Mandur of As-Safir reported on the demonstration at the headquarters of An-Nahar yesterday by the supporters of Jubran Twaini. People shouted: "Say to the Syrian people; gypsy you are, and gypsy you always will be." And "You are not to be called a dog; the dog is to be called a Syrian."

That was the teaching of the late Jubran Twaini. It was not the Syrian regime he attacked, it was the Syrians, and the Palestinians prior to that. His inciting poorly writings have often sparked sectarian unrest and instigated murders against Syrians and Palestinians.

At 12/13/2005 08:56:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

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At 12/13/2005 09:00:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

Historically,Tueni familly is known to be close to the syrian people ,his newspaper was the first to greet syrian opposition members,the reaction that Alterion describe above are not more than words spoken in anger after all what they have endured from this regime.(the reality is that many of syrian workers in lebanon were moukhabarat agents).
Most of the greek orthodox ,sunni and roum catholic communities of lebanon have famillial ties with the syrian people,or are of syrian origin,so how can they hate the syrian people?
Ghassan Tueni ,his father ,always praised the intelligence of the syrian intellectuals.
Allah yer7amak ya Gibran.

At 12/13/2005 09:08:00 AM, Blogger desmond said...

To ask why Syria would do such a thing as assassinate Gebran Tueni and to say that they wouldn't be stupid enough to do it is to not understand the byzantine, labyrinthine logic of the Syrian regime. The Syrian regime wants all of its detractors out of the way and they don't care how it's done. The sheer size and power of that bomb is not only a guaranteed way to get an enemy out of the way but ideal for sending a capitalized, italicized message to Lebanon.

At 12/13/2005 10:08:00 AM, Blogger Alterion said...

What I am saying is, anyone who has malicious designs against Syrians, is my enemy regardless of nationality, religion, and affiliation. I don't discriminate when it comes to that.

At 12/13/2005 03:05:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

It seems to me that the Preisdent circle has been listening to Joshua Landis's continuous defense to keep the status quo in Syrian politics, because, "There is no better alternative" to this Bashar.

So, this so called UNDP where Joshua worked, and where Dardari worked too is not an innocent UN agency, but an agency that provides some kinds of studies "on the ground" in 3rd world countries to benefit some one or some group...some where!

At 12/13/2005 05:03:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


I think you are talking about those Locals paid cheap compared to the very high salaried foreigners who live in Syria.

But those who are making the big buck arecertainly more corrupt than the Syrian government itself.

At 12/13/2005 06:33:00 PM, Blogger Alterion said...

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At 12/13/2005 06:42:00 PM, Blogger Alterion said...

Just read the original article up above by the insane psychopath Kanaan Makkyeh (who was quoted as saying that the sound of the bombs falling on Baghdad in 2003 war of aggression, was sweeter than music). He was also among those Iraqi prostitutes who assured GWB that the Iraqis will welcome him with flowers. Anyway, the article reminded me of a quote by Napoleon Bonapart:"In this world, there are leaders, and there are pawns". The real problem for Iraq now is the fact that it is being run by pawns.

At 12/13/2005 06:42:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

""""""It is just that if the son or daughter of 'kaza' wants to work there he or she will, like it or not...Again, this is not endemic to UNDP in any country.

Right. This is how Dardary git his job there anyway. What did he do there that would have allowed him to get any meaningful experience or expertise to be chanted with right now by the regime and people like Joshua?

I say there is no experience to be gained there, and all of what they do is to execute what they are told by Geneva or New York. It is a waste.


At 12/13/2005 06:44:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

git = got.


At 12/13/2005 06:49:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


No matter what happened in Iraq, it is a lot better than to have Saddam stay in power, and then pass it to his son and grand children.

The Iraqis, from the first days after their liberation from that dictator, expressed them selves as returning to the status of Human beings instead of sheep by getting out in the streets of Iraq by the thousands (no one was forcing them) for the first time since for decades. That is being a human. That is freedom, no matter what the situation. Who is killing Iraqis anyway? It is Iraqis, belonging to the so called Resistance. Should we hail such a Resistance when it kills Iraqis indiscriminately? Sure, Saddam or his men have turned Iraq to such a violent place, as Assad turned Lebanon, and may do so in Syria if he is overturned. That still puts the guilt on him and his cronies, not on the liberators.


At 12/13/2005 06:59:00 PM, Blogger Alterion said...

You're way off track to start a discussion about Iraq (at least with me that is). But nonetheless, let me ask you a question. Would you trade what you have in Syria now (dictators and all), with what Iraq has at the moment? No answer qualifiers please, a simple yes or no, no ifs or buts as this is a luxury you don't get with this question. It as an as-is proposed trade.

At 12/13/2005 07:08:00 PM, Blogger adonis syria said...


ندعو قوى الحرية والديمقراطية في الوطن العربي والعالم للتضامن في إن مواجهة الرأي المختلف والموقف السياسي المغاير بنسف صاحبه بالمتفجرات وجه هذه الظاهرة الوحشية على طريق حياة إنسانية حرة وكريمة

جاء اغتيال الصحفي والنائب اللبناني جبران تويني صباح الاثنين 12/12/2005 حلقة في مسلسل من الإغتيالات والقتل الوحشي، تعرض له عدد من السياسيين والإعلاميين اللبنانيين مؤخرا: رفيق الحريري، سمير قصير، جورج حاوي، وآخرين.

إن مواجهة الرأي المختلف والموقف السياسي المغاير بنسف صاحبه بالمتفجرات أمر لا يمكن قبوله أو التسامح معه. وإن القتل على خلفية سياسية هدر لقيم إنسانية، قيم حرية الرأي والتعبير وحق الاختلاف، دفعت البشرية ثمنا كبيرا من حياة أبنائها وعرقهم قبل إقرارها وتكريسها في المجتمع الحديث .

نحن المثقفون السوريون الموقعون أدناه ندين جريمة اغتيال جبران تويني، ونعبر عن رفضنا القطعي لاغتيال السياسيين والإعلاميين باعتباره جريمة ضد كل القيم الإنسانية النبيلة. كما ندعو قوى الحرية والديمقراطية في الوطن العربي والعالم للتضامن في وجه هذه الظاهرة الوحشية على طريق حياة إنسانية حرة وكريمة، تضمن حرية الرأي والتعبير وحق الاختلاف لكل إنسان .

دمشق 12/12/2005

At 12/13/2005 07:10:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

The answer is YES.

And if the people are fighting each other with such a savagery, this was bound to happen yesterday, today, or tommorow. There is no escape when gangs that took control of the country for decades lose power, and see the ends of their privileges. If Sectarian fights exist, that is also bound to happen no matter day, and the responsible for such violence are the ones that engraved such hatred in the minds and hearts of the people in Iraq or Syria.

I met many Iraqis in the US who have returned to Iraq because they saw great opportunities there. The Media is telling only the bad stories about Iraq, but there is so much good that came out of this venture of liberating Iraq.

Would you rather accept thugs such as Uday to be leading you, and doing anything he wants with your family, regardless of the laws that are in the books? I say, the US will leave one day, but the Iraqis have regained their humanity, and becmae again...people, not sheep.

In Syria, people are liars, thieves, corrupt, unjust in their relationships with each other, and sectarianists to the core of their beings, and also without dignity, a dignity they sold to the men of the regime long ago. The Syrians need to be liberated, and become human beings again. Each Syrian lives a double life: One when facing you, and one secretly. They speak with fork tongues because of fear, and their fears are manifested even among members of their own families.

Syria will be in good shape when this regime is ousted.


At 12/13/2005 07:22:00 PM, Blogger Alterion said...

I don't disagree with you about the sad state of affairs in Syria, but I am sorry to tell you that you're among the minority when it comes this wishing this much destruction on your own country, people, and future, regardless of your intentions. You cannot save a place by burning it down to the ground. This is a yankee doctorine perfected in Vietnam against an invisible enemy. You cannot adopt it for your own country.

At 12/13/2005 07:23:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Plus, one important point; Would you rather prefer to stay under a dictator that can take you to war against a neighbouring country for 8 years Iran), or the one who believed that he had the 4th dummy army in the world, and gambled with 100000 souls and his economy invading Kuwait? I think that even with this unpleasant violence that teh Saddamists and Zarquawists are causing in Iraq, the number od dead people is way less than what Saddam caused in his 30 years in power.

Would you rather live under a dictator that kills journalists in Lebanon, assassinate his Syrian opponents in France or Lebanon? Assad was assassinating Syrian journlists between 1970-1973 in Lebanon. He bombed an opposition newspaper few times back then. This is a regime that anything is better than having it stay in power. This is a Regime that has no morals, and what every its head says: it is all lies, always.

At 12/13/2005 07:26:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

This is Yankee doctrine?

I disagree.

The ones causing the violence in Iraq are those who are killing innocent Iraqis on a daily basis in the name of "Resistance".

Resistance never killed its innocent children. These are a bunch of criminal who feel sour because they lost control of a farm they ran for decades.


At 12/13/2005 07:34:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

So Assadists are threatening us that they will do to Syria what the other Baathist Branch is doing to Iraq. Should we allow them to control us this way?

This is all they have left of logic they can govern with. I say logic because it is some how logical to say: You either keep me in power for ever, though I am jailing your sons, and depriving you of basic freedom, or I will make the country hell if you take me out.

No Sir: I will take hell, for that hell will not last forever, and their bluff will be exposed and destroyed. They should not be able to hold us captives to their bullying.


At 12/13/2005 07:39:00 PM, Blogger Alterion said...

You're just repeating Pentagon briefings. Freedom fighters do not blow themselves up, so far by the thousands, to protest lost perks. These children killers are common sectarian criminals, mostly supported by the Americans as a payback against the families whose sons are with the resistance. That's what I meant you're way off to even start a discussion, you don't even have one percent of yor facts right. And before you go any further, I speak from experience. I have been to Iraq, after the occupation and have a better idea about what's going on than you do, for sure.

At 12/13/2005 07:43:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Perhaps you see things from another angle..

Let me ask you this then, since you say you know what is happening there more than me: were those Suicide Bombers that blew themseves up inside mosques or public places American agents?

At 12/13/2005 07:51:00 PM, Blogger Alterion said...

You're surely intelligent enough to realize the magnitude of violence in Iraq today. What you're describing is the senseless violence and counter-violence taking place. With Iraq being tribal and all, for instance, when the Badr Iranian brigades murder a bunch of people from the same family, the extended family of the killed carry out what they think as being the worst vengeance, by going to the neighborhood where these Badr criminals mostly reside, and blow up as many of them as possible... and the story continues.

At 12/13/2005 08:33:00 PM, Blogger adonis syria said...

There is always a risk of small unrests but i dont think that the the alternative to the regime is the iraqi scenario.
Syria has an important sunni population with homogeneous geographical distribution and despite the sectarian nature of the regime,the syrians have preserved a culture of dialogue and religious tolerance.

At 12/13/2005 08:37:00 PM, Blogger adonis syria said...

alterion,badr brigades are linked to foreigner regional powers ....there is no comparable parties in the syrian opposition.

At 12/13/2005 09:17:00 PM, Blogger zobahhan said...

JAM get a life. Get your own blog working and stop wasting out time with your regurgitation of previously known bs. Secondly, please refrain from hogging the damn board to introduce 6new ideas in under a minute. Im still wondering on your perceived ability to discuss politics so elegantly. You dont seem to know much (syria bombing journalists in france?) and (syrians are all against assad). I mean do you know something a lot of us dont?

At 12/13/2005 09:29:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Syria ? no not Syria. It was the Assad gang so called Regime that killed Journalists in Lebanon, and Syrian leaders in Lebanon, and France. In France, they killed Salah Beetar. Why are you confusing the readers? In germany they killed the wife of Issam Atar... so, I know a lot more about Syria than you do. You are evidently a dirty Assadist, having a criminal mind as all of the Assadists.


At 12/13/2005 09:37:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 12/13/2005 09:40:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


This is what you said:

""You're surely intelligent enough to realize the magnitude of violence in Iraq today".

You are certainly honourable enough to want freedom, and a life of dignity, not to stay a servant for a family of thugs for ever!

So if the Saddamists did what they did in Iraq, aided by the Regime of Assad as we all know, and making Iraq the example to the Syrians so they won't ask for their freedom is what you agree on, then we are certainly on oppoiste sides.




At 12/13/2005 09:53:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

Does anybody have any idea to the fact that all people who where killed are christians ,is that to empty Lebanon from christian leaders and accomidate the islamist and the Saudies by making Lebanon a country with a constitutional presidency where the country is ruled by the sunny muslem goverment,poor Syria it is like sombody in a dark room and bieing beaten without knowing who is doing it.

At 12/13/2005 09:53:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

The violence that is being pupertrated in Iraq appears to be accomplishing its goals in the minds of those who think that freedom should not be pursued if faced by danger.

Today the so called Resistance in Iraq killed a Sunni Candidate, and tried to kill a Shiite one who escaped.

Why are those calling themselves "Resistance" don't try the ballot box instead, and if they don;t want to, then to stop intimidating the rest of the population and stop killing their own kind. Resistance was never against one's own people, but this is what this so called Resistnace is doing. So, the violence that is killing Iraqis which is caused by such "resistance" is surely scaring some Syrians, and that is precisely what the Assad Regime has calculated and is doing.

Freedom has a price.

Are you not willing to pay for your freedom?


At 12/13/2005 09:55:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...



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