Friday, November 18, 2005

Why US Should not Push Syria to the Wall

Nationalism is on a dramatic rise here following the President's speech. Many people are getting into the act. There were several "street parties" organized near my home in the Italiani section. Local streets were blocked off in the evening and young people gathered with music blaring from special trucks, banners hanging overhead, and people dancing the debke and partying. They were block parties, a new development clearly inspired by the Lebanese Cedar revolution, but appropriated by the Syrian state. The radio stations are full of nationalist songs, (listed in the article below.) Ali Deek, the Alawi country singer who has had many number-one hits in the past, is number one on the charts again with his song, "I am Syrian and I invoke Syria." But all the other local artists are getting into the act with their own songs.

The President's speech, published in the form of a handsome pamphlet, is being handed out in the stores for free, and people are reading it. The newspapers are full of denunciations of the America-Israel plan to enslave Syria, chop it up, rip out its Arab heart, and turn it into another Iraq. The Lebanese government has become the new punching bag for local journalists and taxi drivers.

The Syrian opposition has also been bitten by the nationalist bug. They denounced Kamal Labwani on his return to Syria after he met with high American officials. Even though the government arrested Kamal at Damascus airport, following his return from Washington, which should have raised his stature with the opposition, he remained radioactive to most Syrians. They accused him of going over to the enemy. If Bush thought he was going to score points by using Labwani against the Syrian government, which he clearly thought he was doing by mentioned him in a national address as a symbol of the oppressed Syrian and proof that Syria was undemocratic, the strategy failed.

The West will criticize the Syrian opposition for not taking sides with democratic America against undemocratic Syria and the Asad regime, but that is the way it is here. Many of my intellectual friends, both Alawi and Sunni, were not sympathetic to Labwani. They said that keeping a distance from the American government was the basic barometer of national good taste, whether one likes the government or not. Syria must stick together, they said. "We will not accept America determining our future." This sentiment is wide spread and demonstrates how few tools America really has in trying to turn the Syrian street against the government.

There are dissenting voices. One friend told me that the Syrian opposition is likely to look back at the past five years under Bashar as the "lost years," because it failed to develop a "foreign strategy." Instead it clings to its old Arab nationalist ways and refuses to make common cause with foreign powers against the strong Asad regime. "So long as the Syrian opposition insists on facing the regime alone," he said, it will fail." He was dismayed that the leaders of the Damascus Declaration had cold shouldered Labwani.

He may be right, but the common stand of the Syrians is quite remarkable and has surely given the regime a great boost of confidence. The spirit of the people has begun to lift since the President's speech. Much of the anxiety has been transformed into corporate solidarity. Most important is that the government and Mehlis are negotiating over venues and a memorandum of understanding, people are beginning to think the government will find a way out of its quagmire and may not have led them into a dead end after all. Deputy Prime Minister Abdullah Dardari, who is becoming a star along with Foreign Ministry Legal Council Daoudi was on TV again today, this time on al-Jazeera. He was professional and kept insisting that Syria has every intention of "cooperating fully with the investigation within the context of a legal framework that does not impinge on the sovereignty of the state and the honor of the nation." He refused to be provoked into repeating Baathist slogans or invoking conspiracy theories. He was excellent.

America should also take note of the strong nationalist solidarity, because it will lose if it pushes Syria too hard with economic sanctions. It can win tactically, meaning it is more powerful than Syria and surely can strangle the country if it imposes far-reaching sanctions. It can drive the poverty rate through the roof, which will eventually cause the state to fail and people to turn against Asad and the government. But strategically, it will fail. There will be not democracy as a result. Chaos will most likely be the outcome in the medium term, after Syria strangles slowly in the short term. In the long term, a regime that is more radical, more unstable, and more prone to violence will take the place of the Asad dynasty. Syria will need years before it is ready for American style democracy or more probably Lebanese style sectarian republicanism.

Syria is not ripe for the kind of transformation that President Bush is calling for. It has no mature opposition and a depoliticized population. If Bush pushes Syria to the wall, he will break it, rather than transform it in a direction he hopes for. He will only get mud on his face and possibly another Iraq - that is what many Syrians think.

Pressing for greater democracy in Syria is an important and noble foreign policy goal. America must not relinquish it, but it will have to get a lot smarter about doing it. It will have to build bridges to the Syrian public and win them over the old fashion way, through hard work, foreign assistance, and buying more and more sectors of the government bureaucracy and public into the things westerners like, such as capitalism, efficiency, the rule of law, and ultimately, political freedoms.

The Iraq debacle has driven American legitimacy as a democracy-exporter - and, even more so, as a justice exporter - though the floor. Add the Iraq experience (500,000 Iraqi refugees in Syria) to America's Palestine policy (400,000 Palestinian refugees in Syria)and one can be little surprised that Syrians are giving Bush the middle finger. Syrians still love and admire America more than any other Arab population - except perhaps the Lebanese. (There are 7 to 9 million Syrians living abroad, most in the Americas. They send home good news and money.) They love it for its freedoms, wealth, and culture, but they aren't buying its foreign policy.

David Ignatius, in his op-ed, Careful With Syria," touches on many of these themes. He was just in Damascus and we had an interesting talk. I will copy the entire article below after this interesting piece on the new pop songs of Sham.

SYRIA: POP SONG DERIDING UN INVESTIGATOR TOPS THE CHARTS

Damascus, 18 Nov. (AKI) - The latest song of Syrian pop star, Ali Deek, strikes a sour note against Detlev Mehlis, the UN-appointed German judge whose probe has linked top Syrian officials to the assassination of former Lebanese premier Rafik Hariri. "Your report, oh Mehlis, is not worth a (Syrian) pound - it's a political move, you just want to put us out on the road, behind bars or kill us," are some of the lyrics contained in the song, entitled "I am Syrian and I invoke Syria". The track which appears in the singer's latest record compilation, is one of many politically-charged songs being aired in recent days on Syrian radio.

Deek's song, which is in Arabic, appears aimed as much at Lebanese listeners as to the singer's compatriots. "The Syrian stands next to you, oh Lebanese, and things are going bad for both of us... if misfortune strikes it will be for both me and you.... So awake, listen and be on guard!," say the lyrics accompanied by lush, melodic strings and percussion.

But despite the pop tune, the message becomes increasingly macabre: "If you want war from us then we will take to the trenches.. but we want to live... yet if we have to perish, for us to fall in battle will be like a wedding feast."

Amid growing international pressure on Damascus to co-operate with Mehlis' investigation, Deek is but one of a batch of Syrian pop stars who have recently released songs with strong patriotic overtones. Others include Kanana al-Qasir, Linda Barakat, Hussam Madaniyya, Muhannad Mushlih, Husayn Duwayri, Ali Dawli, with most of the tracks aired on the Damascus-based radio, FM al-Madina.

"We play the 'political' songs at least 40 times a day, and to date we have never been censored," says the station manager, Mizar Nizam ad-Din.

"We ourselves have produced eight new patriotic songs and on our 'top ten' playlist just behind Deek's song which in top spot there's a song by Hussam Madaniyya which goes like this: "For you oh Sham (Syria) we and God are your sons and for all the fury of the storm from the West, we shout the voice of justice for you our abode."
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Careful With Syria
By David Ignatius
Washington Post
Friday, November 18, 2005; Page A23

DAMASCUS -- In the United Nations' looming confrontation with Syria, it's hard to define the best strategy but easy to identify the worst one: the imposition of general economic sanctions that would hurt the Syrian people while allowing the ruling clique to grow even richer.

That's my strongest impression from a visit to Damascus. Broad-brush sanctions would disrupt Syria's contact with the West at the very time it's most needed and would alienate ordinary Syrians who need reassurance. They would undermine a process of political and economic change here that, if it continues, will gradually create a new Syria. "If you want to save the Syrian regime, then use economic sanctions as in Iraq," a European diplomat told me. A Syrian intellectual confided that in his view, "The regime is dying for sanctions."

You can feel the tension building here after President Bashar Assad's defiant speech last week about the U.N. investigation of Syria's alleged role in the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri. The Syrian leader said he would cooperate with the U.N. probe led by German prosecutor Detlev Mehlis, but his tone was so strident that several Syrians said he was almost daring the United Nations to impose sanctions.

Until Assad's speech, there had been hope that he would break with an inner clique, including his brother-in-law Asef Shawkat, whom Mehlis suspects was involved in Hariri's killing. French diplomats here spoke of a "Juan Carlos option" -- in which Assad would assume a benign role as head of state, in the model of the Spanish king, while a new government reformed Syrian political and economic life. Those hopes were never very realistic. Assad is in effect the chief executive of a family business, and he's hardly likely to throw his relatives overboard.

It's hard to find a Syrian who doesn't want Assad to remain at least as a figurehead. He's a symbol of stability for a country nervously watching the carnage in Iraq. Sami Moubayed, a Syrian analyst, is probably right when he tells me that "the president would win in a landslide if there was an election." But I doubt that Syrians will permanently ransom their political futures to an Assad clan that doesn't deliver economic and social change.

I talked with one of Assad's friends, Col. Manaf Talas, a senior officer in the Republican Guard and son of the former defense minister. He agrees that Syria wants reform but insists: "You need time. You need years. There's a generation you have to push forward." He argues that Assad is still the reformers' best bet, but many Syrians have given up on Assad as a change agent.

Syria is a country in ferment. People talk politics here with a passion I haven't heard since the 1980s in Eastern Europe. They're writing manifestos, dreaming of new political parties, trying to rehabilitate old ones from the 1950s. Internet cafes are scattered through Damascus, allowing people to constantly share news and gossip. The security forces have been arresting dissidents, but that doesn't stop people from talking. Indeed, the only thing that could really put a lid on this society would be the strangulating effect of sanctions.

You never quite know what's behind someone's front door in Syria. That's part of the mystery of this country. Take the tiny eight-room hotel where I stayed in the Old City. There's not even a name on the door to mark the entrance to the Beit al Mamlouka, as the hotel is called. But inside is a 16th-century Oriental jewel box -- frescoed-ceiling rooms gathered around a courtyard of marble fountains, fishponds and flowering trees. And the place has wireless Internet service, to boot.

The right policy for this ripening nation is one of engagement -- not of the regime but of the Syrian people. The United States should send its ambassador back to Damascus, despite the government-organized demonstrations taking place almost every day near the U.S. Embassy. America and France should broaden their outreach to Syrian dissidents, human rights groups, artists, professors -- indeed, almost anyone who's willing to talk with outsiders. They should convey the message that the West is standing with the Syrian people as they move into the future. When Syria is truly ripe for change, these helping hands can ensure a safe passage.

More pressure on Syria will be necessary if the Assad regime openly defies the United Nations, but it should focus on individuals targeted by Mehlis -- so that they can't travel abroad, can't draw on their foreign bank accounts, can't strut on the global stage. This time, sanctions should punish the criminals, not the victims.

36 Comments:

At 11/19/2005 04:22:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

I am yet to see a single key policy maker in the white House warn or proclaim that economic sanctions are on the way. Let me get this straight. Not a single person seems to think imposing economic sanction on a country like Syria makes sense. Why are we spending so much time on this scenario? Let us assume that the White House agree with this. What is Plan B? The article concludes that "more pressure on Syria will be necessary if the Assad regime openly defies the UN, but it should focus on individuals targeted by Mehlis, so that they can't travel abroad, can't draw on their foreign bank accounts, can't strut on the gloabl stage". These are intelligent sounding words but what does this really mean? Asef and the 5 others are really going to shiver and panic by this brilliant advocated solution: America heeds this advice:

1- Asef & co cannot travel abroad:
This is really going to hurt. No near term family trips to Disney Land or Eiffel Tower.

2- Asef and co cannot touch their ATM machines. They cannot even use their credit cards any longer.

3- Asef and co cannot strut (stand out
) on the gloabl stage. No more CNN appearences or lunchs or dinner with Queen Elizabeth will be tolerated from now on.

If Bashar read these recommendations and thought that they may actually take place, he is going to have sleepless nights. All syrians should take comfort. He is going to be under such strain that he will immediately dissolve the Baath party. He will abolish socialism and order every book of Adam Smith to be required reading at every school and university in his country. Dr. Landis augments this spectacular plan with his own wisdom to the white house by opining that America should convey the message that "the west is standing with the Syrian people as they move in the future and when Syria is ripe for change, these helping hands can ensure a safe passage". If Bashar reads these two plans for change, he is going to be real worried and scared that the end of his regime is right around the corner.

This is like 101 politics for dummies. Please spare us this nonesense

 
At 11/19/2005 04:48:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Dr. Landis,

I am interested to know your own views on why you think the regime has been stonewalling and resisting cooperating with the investigation. If it were me, I would go out of my way to prove the Mehlis is an agent of the White House and that all his evidence is fabricated. I would book a Boeing 777, put all my files and taped telephone conversations in its cargo. Tell Mehlis that not only do I want him to present all his evidence but I want him to conduct the entire proceedings on worldwide Television. I want an OJ Simpson type interrogation where the world can watch and see him present his fabricated evidence and it will my word against his infront of the world to see. I would then post my own reporters and political analysts for post session interviews and analysis to point out every single lie and inconsistency in Mr. Mehlis report. After all, I am innocent of the crime and my people are. What are we afraid on. Mr. Mehlis, we will meet you wherever you want, anytime you way. So bring it on. Wel will expose your lies and the great big scheme that your masters have designed to destroy us, the last bastian of Arabism

 
At 11/19/2005 05:51:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 11/19/2005 05:58:00 PM, Blogger gK said...

I have always noted with great interest what appears to be a typical Joshua Landis analysis. The post always starts extolling the virtues of Libert, Democracy, and Freedom. But then he always makes a U turn by suggesting that the poor, miserable, uneducated and unsophisticated Syrian populace canno have any of the benefits of the Liberal human project. They are not sophisticated enough to understand that civil society is far better than tyranical one party rule and furthermore they would much rather live under the certainty of dictatorship and economic stagnation rather than take a chance on what is right.
My only wish is that Joshua's lectures in class show more courage and clarity. I pity the students if that is not the case.

 
At 11/19/2005 07:08:00 PM, Blogger Alawites for Syria said...

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At 11/19/2005 07:28:00 PM, Blogger Landis Illegitimate Child said...

I agree with my daddy. Alawites should rule Syria for another 40 years.

Ali Landis

 
At 11/19/2005 10:21:00 PM, Blogger Nur-al-Cubicle said...

My, my! What misbehavior here in the comments. Shame on these Yahoos--the exterior of a human and the interior of a chimpanzee.

 
At 11/19/2005 10:56:00 PM, Blogger LebaneseGeeks.com said...

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At 11/20/2005 12:25:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

This dude Landis said:
"Syria is not ripe for the kind of transformation that President Bush is calling for. It has no mature opposition and a depoliticized population. If Bush pushes Syria to the wall, he will break it, rather than transform it in a direction he hopes for. He will only get mud on his face and possibly another Iraq - that is what many Syrians think.”

Syria has the most politicized population in the entire world, They are fearful of the Mukhabrat. Syrians are very disappointed and now are totally distrustful with the Bush Administration, even more than from any previous U.S. Administration in the past 40 years.

Syria is very ripe for the kind of transformation to a new updated country more than any country in the world. In fact, the failure of accomplishing this will lead to mess that will spiral out of control.

If Bush listen and adopt the incompetent Petro-Zionist dreamers plan, if he to read the crap his CIA and other intelligence agencies shove on his desk and do nothing as they recommend, he will loose the entire Middle East and it's oil. If he took a back seat and helped all the Syrian oppositions to do the talking and the campaigning, he will win big and leave office with remarkable achievements and good accomplishments that for 2000 years no one, not a person, and not an empire was able to do.

Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe
Chief Strategist
(The Brain)
Syrian Republican Party
The future of Syria
The future of the Middle East
www.ssprs.com
web-media@ssprs.com

Motto of the day:
Why work hard, enjoy your time and watch dummies do your work for you.
Life is much more fun that way,
try it my way.

 
At 11/20/2005 12:26:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

You guys deriding Landis are stupid and rude. If you don't like him (or hate him) that much, then at least don't deride him on his own site. Get your own manure-filled space on Blogger.com and say all the crap that you want, but doing it here speaks volumes about you guys: parasitic, opportunistic, and ungrateful.

If you are inside someone's house, you just don't talk shit about them. But apparently your manners are more American than Syrian.

 
At 11/20/2005 12:43:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 11/20/2005 12:45:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 11/20/2005 12:47:00 AM, Blogger LebaneseGeeks.com said...

Oh yes, we should be very greatful to have a site calling all Syrian opposition Immature. Calling Syrians not yet evolved to have freedom and Democracy, not even property or human right.

You are a TIMORBLOOD like SRP said.

 
At 11/20/2005 12:56:00 AM, Blogger Alawites for Syria said...

He is in our country, insulting us and our country.

 
At 11/20/2005 01:00:00 AM, Blogger Marcelle said...

Bush is not representative of democracy and the srp does not represent the Syrian opposition . Thank you Josh for your valuable comments.

 
At 11/20/2005 01:06:00 AM, Blogger Alawites for Syria said...

Thank you puppy Marcelle, we like toy poodles.

 
At 11/20/2005 01:13:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 11/20/2005 01:30:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 11/20/2005 01:48:00 AM, Blogger EngineeringChange said...

Interesting stuff Josh. The nation rallies around the flag like clockwork. Karl Rove would be proud I am sure.

Its interesting you note how the population still differentiates between American Government and the American People. It is a very nice characteristic of the Syrian people.

An OJ trial would be great Ehsani2! But I doubt it would happen--and if it did I bet Rami Makhlouf would get exclusive distribution rights! One step forwards, one step backwards!

 
At 11/20/2005 02:17:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 11/20/2005 02:22:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I find it incredibly difficult to ignore this post of Landis and keep my promise to stay away from the Net for a long time.


So, the Syrian people are not equipped to handle freedom, or democracy, and they seem to be retarded. There, in Syria, the Assad gang, and their associates of self made thugs found a great friend in Mr. Landis who finds some how that the Assad family which came from the most retarded place in Syria, and has been destroying and robbing Syria for 35 years as the one who decides whether the Syrians should be given freedom and democracy, or stay under their control eternally, or at least for 40 more years as Mr. Landis wishes them to. What a crap!

What kind of logic is this? Who in the world has given you, Mr. Landis, the right to be the judge and the appointer of the dictator that should lead Syrians while they are immature and unfit for democracy? Who are you? Or who do you think you are to decide that the Syrian people should stay under the Assad family rule that you think as "developped" and "worthy"?

Why are you so eager to save the Assads, Mr. landis? Why are you so eager to keep the Syrian people under the savages rule? What a disgusting creature you must be!

JAM

 
At 11/20/2005 02:26:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

I find it outrageous that the Afghans "deserved" democracy, but not the Syrians! I find it unbelievable that the US thinks the the Haitians "deserved" democracy, but not the Syrians! What a crap this man called Landis must he be!

JAM

 
At 11/20/2005 02:29:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 11/20/2005 02:36:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Listen to this crap from some one who along with his father have been stealng Syria for 35 years and became Billionaires in Dollars, and evidently wish to stay ewhere they are dominating this country called Syria, and stealing its wealth for ever:

"I talked with one of Assad's friends, Col. Manaf Talas, a senior officer in the Republican Guard and son of the former defense minister. He agrees that Syria wants reform but insists: "You need time. You need years. There's a generation you have to push forward." He argues that Assad is still the reformers' best bet, but many Syrians have given up on Assad as a change agent"


Yes, Years.... years.... and in those years, Munaf Fucking Tlas and Bashar Fucking Assad will keep their positions and laugh at the world and at the dignity of mankind. Of course they need years while they, these thugs stay where they are , in power committing all kinds of crimes and thefts! and who are they to think they are superior to the rest of the Syrian people, you disgusting creature?

Like Bashar Assad when he speaks to foreign dignatories! He complains about the quality of people he has to deal with! As if he is not Syrian, but was chosen by God to be superior to these reatrded people! What a criminal mentality any one who respects this man must they have!


JAM

 
At 11/20/2005 04:27:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

Nice to see the blog admin working.

As for the post: This is just the government machine flexing its internal muscles. But it comes with a very valid point that many here seem to ignore. Which makes me wonder how many commenters actually live in Syria? The fact of the matter is this regime has mass support of the people, especially in times like these. And as much as some of you would like to claim, this is not Saddam’s Iraq or Ghadfi’s Libya, where the absolute majority despises the government.

 
At 11/20/2005 04:33:00 AM, Blogger Abu Arab said...

David Ignatius said:
“They should convey the message that the West is standing with the Syrian people as they move into the future. When Syria is truly ripe for change, these helping hands can ensure a safe passage”

How the Syrians could believe the west & Americans? Why this much care about the Syrians??

For more than 50 years the West & the Americans did nothing for the Palestinians who want to live in dignity, who want to live in their homes safe, who want to have education and a decent life.
Instead, they VETOED and IGNORED DOZENS of UN resolutions demanding the occupation to stop assassinating our right for a safe and prosperous Future and end the brutal occupation on our lands.

Why the West & America don’t care about those Syrians who are living under the Israeli occupation in Golan Heights? Those have the priority of a decent live to live as Syrians in their homes and towns not in the refugee camps.

How do want the Syrians to believe the West who sees the Israeli Killers as peace makers and sees the Arabs’ resistance to occupation as terrorism?

Western Helping Hands should ensure that these historical dilemmas should not be solved at the expense of the Arabs.

Unless a fair and moderate speech is delivered, which carries pure determination to implement justice in the region and treat Arabs as people with dignity and give up double standards positions, these gabs that the West is uselessly trying to build with the Arabs will unfortunately stay unbridgeable.

 
At 11/20/2005 06:24:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

If this regime has some support for why the use of 15 security apparatus with 90% if not 100%of the top officiers choosen from the alawite community?

Never judge a deprived people,appareances are misleading ,the syrians since their childhood are forced to live under an atmosphere of fear.
This regime was not able to tolerate the modest weekly of Ali Farzat or Atassi forum.
The Iraqi baath of saddam was by far stronger than the syrian baath,and for sure no one syrian baathi will fight for asad as we see today in iraq with the iraqi baathists...in Iraq baath was ideological..in Syria it's a cover for the sectarian policy of asad's house.
The syrian regime's first enemy is the syrian people and allowing some freedom,at the same level of egypt or jordan will mean its suicide.

 
At 11/20/2005 06:46:00 AM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

They wont be fighting for any particular person but they will fight for their country. sounds tacky but its true.

 
At 11/20/2005 07:50:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

But not under the flag of al baath unlike the islamic-baathist insurgency in Iraq.
I dont see makhlouf,asad,tlass and cronies to play such role.When things become serious,they will flee ,fearing vengeances even within the alawite mountain.

 
At 11/20/2005 08:08:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

"America supports Israel. Israel mistreats the palestinians. Syria is targeted".

With this CD playing over and over since 1948, Arab regimes used this music to subject their populations to any amount of indignity and sub-standard economic well being they though justifiable. Abu Arab, for example, finds it very hard to take the sound of this CD out of his pre-programmed brain. Let us not lose sight of what all this is about. The Syrian leadership is accused of killing a prime minister of a neighbering country. As I suggested in my comment above, we ought to be spending our time answering this question:

If the evidence is fabricated as Bashar claimed to his 18 million people, why doesn't he pack his files and taped conversations, take his officers, invite CNN and Al-jazeera on the flight (ala Air force one), land anywhere the Mossad agent Mehlis wants, and go on embarrasing America and its leaders by exposing thei lies and conspiricy against his country in front of worldwide Tv and for the world to see. Dr. Landis, I, for one, would love for you to post an article to answer this question for your readers.

Dr. Landis should not be criticised for thinking that the Syrian people are not ready for democracy. He has been living in Syria and seeing the real Syrian people and not you inteliggent people reading and writing on his post. What Dr. Landis sees is 18 million people who can hardly speak a single foreign language, who are made up of 60% below the age of 18 wandering in the streets of Damascus seemingly oblivious to the world outside and perfectly content that this is the way it is supposed to be. After all, they have heard the famous CD above since they were born. They are convinvced that this is the best they can do, and if other countries improve and prosper, then this is either a lie or unimportant. After all, believing in the CD brings them honor. For them, they are born to believe in a higher cause. Democracy and improving standards of living is not for them. They are incable to practice it like others and their country is not ready for it. The CD is more important for their honor and dignity. The fact is that this regime and party has been a master at this game. They have convinced Dr. Landis and their own 18 million people that they are not ready for any better. In a way, they are right. Dr. Landis, how can you have an opposition when you have draconian emergency laws which are in place supposedly because of the CD but in truth exist to crush any chance of opposition and democratic tendencies. Sir, I can guarantee you that if you send our Baath, Mukhabarat and emergency laws to Sweden you will have that country look like Syria in 40 years. When you keep on repeating the mantra that Syrians are not ready, have you ever asked yourself the question of WHY? Do you think it is genetics? I know you cannot help it. You see 18 million improvished men and women, and you don't see in them an alternative leadership to Assad and the Baath. You ask yourself who else can lead this nation? Sir, if you could see them, touch them and feel them and if they were credible as an opposing force, then our security system and emergency laws would failed to work or do a job they perfect over 40 years. Trust me, sir, they work and work better than your own CIA/FBI.

 
At 11/20/2005 08:31:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

I don't believe that the Iraqi scenario is possible in Syria,first because the syrian population is more homogeneous with a clear sunni majority,but it is important to act intelligently.The big mistake made in Iraq was the dissolution of the baath party,the army and police.
Those are baathists by necessity rather than by conviction,such policy should be avoided in Syria.
Only baathists with syrian blood on their hands should be punished.
To reassure the alawite population,i think that Dr Aref Dalila as prime minister of post-assad Syria will be an excellent and wise choice.

 
At 11/20/2005 08:54:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

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At 11/20/2005 08:55:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

excellent comment ehsani !

 
At 11/20/2005 09:19:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Decent Alawis are suffering from the regime as much as any one else. This is more like a Mafia rule than a government with any legitimacy. They intimidate every one, and every one is suvjected to the rules of fear that exist in syria.

I welocome the Iraqi scenario if necessary. The Iraqis, and despite this atmosphere of killings and violence have returned to be human beings again, not dead and sheep as Saddam had made them to be. The Iraqis are happier than most of you know about. I have met Iraqis who have returned and retiurning right now to Iraq. They do prefer this post Saddam situation a million times than Saddam's rule. So do I when it concerns Syria. I want this regime out, and the likes Manaf Tlas to shut up for ever. Let the Syrians become human beings again, with brains, and dignity, and let them kill each other for a while for if this is what they are made of, this will happen now or in 100 years later. let it happen now, and let the Syrians leave their Sheep status as described by Josh himself few times. We need to see Syrians regain their humanity, even if this will lead to some blood shed, and I bet you all, and I know that this will not happen because Syrians are the most pacifists among all Arabs, and among all people. Take away the real thugs and criminals who are the mafia of the regime, and this nation will stand tall again, most civilised among all nations. Syria was the example to the world in keeping the specific traits of any population that migrated to it. Take the Armenians, the Cherkess in modern times, and see how Alawis, Druz, Assyrians, Kurds, etc.,... all were not forced to abandon their ways of life throught hundreds if not thousands of years, and see how Syria had Christian PMs, Druz Ministers of Defense many times, when Druz do not even count 1% of Syria. All of that before this Thug Hafez Assad took over and made it dividied as Josh sees it now.

The solution for Syria in Josh's eyes is to keep thugs like Manaf Tlas for "years" as Tlas wants.. This subhuman sold the Syrian people bad meat he imported and knew it was bad, just to make few extra millions on top of his already made billions. This is a man they interviewed above and wanted to present as a witness that Syria needs him and his ilks for "years" as he put it.

Get out of this crap, mr. Landis!


JAM

 
At 11/20/2005 09:59:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Some fagot said:
“The fact of the matter is this regime has mass support of the people”

Great, then Bashar and the Baath don’t need 300,000 Mukhbarat and
They should have no fear of having fair and legal National election.
Lets cast our vote tomorrow and if he win, will call him Mr. President.
Not a dictator and a clown.

 
At 11/20/2005 01:11:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Economic sanctions only, weather smart and narrow, or dumb and wide reaching, will not work as an effective enforcement measure by itself, and it will not advance Syria or it’s ruler one inch into the program. Rather it will send it backward in leaps. With it, the whole Middle East will be sent backward, including Israel.

Economic sanctions needs to be accompanied with organizing opposition and arming them with the necessary fund and technologies to carry out an effective media campaign inside Syria, either based in Lebanon or through Arial means such as developed by Orontes Corporation (www.orontes.net). This campaign must be purely run and operated by Syrians only.

Additionally, the assured use of force must be present. That can not be just a U.S. action, it must be Syrian / US action. The face of this action must be at all time Syrian oppositions, not American.

The intent of all this should not be to occupy, chop-up or destroy Syria as the Petro-Zionist plan intend on doing. No Zionist brained, retarded and evil, Faith inspired Shock and Awe campaign to destroy Syria’s Industrial / Commercial Infrastructure and prepare Syria for perpetual Civil War ( for the benefit of Israel of course),. The surgical military operation, if necessary, is primarily to protect unarmed Syrians and their rights. For as long as the regime respect those rights, force should not be used. And if they did not, then surgical force should be used against the aggressor and or his governmental enterprise on a case by case basis. There will be no wide scale use of force and no Government official, Baathist, armed forces or regime base supporter, armed or unarmed, or Mukhabrat, specifically targeted, as long as the entity is not conducting offensive campaigns against Syrians, committing rights abuses, or is a party to such abuse or harmful tactics, but rather using the media in the same way to affect the street and the choices the Syrian people needs to make for Syria’s future. Orontes Corporation (www.orontes.net) has developed several defense system that are apt to be successfully and effectively used in such Civil Strife Seek & Combat deployment.

The intent of the Media campaign that is backed by in-kind response and a retaliatory use of force is not, and should not be directed at either removing Bashar or his regime from power, but rather to force him and his regime to make a behavior modification toward how they are running Syria and treating the Syrian people. Forcing him to stop the theft of State properties and resources, removing the Baath yoke from Syrian necks and allowing the kind of representation for various parties that can operate under real reformed laws, that will have an affect on the running of Syria.

Under such a plan, a wide economic sanctions can work concurrent with measures described above, because they will not be indefinite as the case in Iraq. The Baathist Mafia regime will thrive under sanctions only regiment, weather limited and smart or wide reaching, sanction busters are eager to move in on and cease on the opportunities that will be available. Almost positive, that large number of those sanction busters profiteers will be Americans operating through Iraqi boarder ( not Syrian-American).

Does this sound too much like “Barbie in Fairytopia”? Only for three reasons. First, Petro-Zionists planners will never agree to it, allow it, or even promote it. Should it pass through this first e-insurnamable ( how do you spell the damm word) hurdle, it will face the second less difficult obstacle, but not by much. Would international bankers willing to take a chance on the reverse cash flow, even to reverse transfer the $45 billion in cash Assad’s Mafia hoarded abroad, to the lesser benefits of those countries financial systems and economies. Finally can you convince a trenched and absolute Mafia boss, that is backed overtly or covertly by the most corrupt people on earth in power and or out of it, without much blood in the street, to give up his street corner or the whole block, give up absolute monopoly on the market and every cash transaction on that block? This cannot be assured (Saddam is an example) but it has a much better chance to succeed if the Mafia Boss knows that he better cooperate and live reasonably with dignity than if he did not, not only he will be on the run all his life, if he survived, but he will not find a cent to spend, because all his, his family, his Mafia gangster and their family hoarded cash and assets will be taken by the bigger and more powerful organized crime family.

President Buch needs to stop this monkey business and help the people of Syria. The country has the most politicized population in the entire world, They are fearful of the Mukhabrat. Syrians are very disappointed and now are totally distrustful with the Bush Administration, even more so, than from any previous U.S. Administration in the past 40 years.

Syria, like that of Lebanon is very ripe for the kind of transformation to a new updated country more than any country in the world, even more than Lebanon. In fact, the failure of accomplishing this will lead to mess that will spiral out of control. Syria is the missing link in bringing to fruition the goals set by President Bush Greater Middle East Initiative.

In the end, lacking any other measure, sanctions only can go on and on and Bashar will simply outlast the fourth president that will be elected after George Bush leaves office.

The older Bush made a serious and fatal mistake in the past when he left dictator Saddam in power. It is even a greater mistake if the younger Bush leaves the Baath party in sole control of Syria.

If President Bush listen and adopt the incompetent Petro-Zionist dreamers plan, if he to read the junk in-junk out dossiers his CIA and other intelligence agencies shove on his desk and do nothing as they recommend, ( No available alternative), ( No viable option) and rubbish such as this Baathist developed and inspired motto’s, he will loose the entire Middle East and it's oil. If he and America took a back seat and helped all the Syrian oppositions to do the talking and the campaigning, he will win big and leave office with remarkable achievements and good accomplishments that for 2000 years no one, not a person, and not an empire was able to do.




Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe
Syrian Republican Party
The future of Syria
The future of the Middle East
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